4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Anyone else get this? What a god damn joke with the numbers being thrown around. I am sure the Jets are shooting high to gauge the response from the fans but HOLY SH$T! Upfront payments and then payments over 15 years!!! What the F!! I will copy and paste some of the numbers from the survey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 lets see for an upper level corner seat 105 per game and 1500 a year for 8 years... what a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Anyone else get this? What a god damn joke with the numbers being thrown around. I am sure the Jets are shooting high to gauge the response from the fans but HOLY SH$T! Upfront payments and then payments over 15 years!!! What the F!! I will copy and paste some of the numbers from the survey Please share whatever info you have....thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 I will work on getting their example numbers up on here... brace yourself boys... can you imagine if you had to pay $525 per game sitting in the lower level in addition to PSLS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 But but but... It is such a good investment any dedicated Jets fan should bend over and pay Woody Johnson $12 G's and $105 a ticket a game to sit in the UPPER FREAKIN' LEVEL. Think about it! This blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 But but but... It is such a good investment any dedicated Jets fan should bend over and pay Woody Johnson $12 G's and $105 a ticket a game to sit in the UPPER FREAKIN' LEVEL. Think about it! This blows. But where are BZ and aec4? why aren't they embracing this? Woody is clueless. the astounding turn around on the waiting list this year should be throwing up red flags, but apparently he's ignorant and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 lets see for an upper level corner seat 105 per game and 1500 a year for 8 years... what a bargain And I thought the Pats were screwing me over with $169 lower level tickets. That looks like a bargain compared to what you guys are going to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 But where are BZ and aec4? why aren't they embracing this? Woody is clueless. the astounding turn around on the waiting list this year should be throwing up red flags, but apparently he's ignorant and stupid. aec4? The guy doesn't even have season tickets and bashes me and other fans for "complaining" about the increase in tickets and parking after a 4-12 season, where clearly people have been jumping off the waiting list (as raffyD so stated, he was 3000 something last year and was just offered season tickets by the Jets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Here I am! Sorry, don't feel like posting the same argument for the 100th time. See the other threads. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Max sending you an email with prices and screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Please make sure this stuff gets posted. I would really love to see what they are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 And do not want to take credit for it...My friend Bill took the time to put it together. You guys will fall off your friggin seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Isn't the same from the other thread? http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56338 BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenjetsfan Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The New York Jets are conducting a survey among current season ticket holders and wait listers to gauge your interest in purchasing season tickets in The New Meadowlands Stadium, slated to open for the 2010 season. Your answers will help the Jets determine the best way to sell tickets to the new stadium. The survey will take only 20 minutes to complete. To participate, please proceed to: http://hpolsurveys.com/w34632/c-en_US.htm?id=1312107636&pwd=0545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 The New York Jets are conducting a survey among current season ticket holders and wait listers to gauge your interest in purchasing season tickets in The New Meadowlands Stadium, slated to open for the 2010 season. Your answers will help the Jets determine the best way to sell tickets to the new stadium. The survey will take only 20 minutes to complete. To participate, please proceed to: http://hpolsurveys.com/w34632/c-en_US.htm?id=1312107636&pwd=0545 Unfortunately we cannot see the questions to the survey or the results. What were the numbers they were asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 See my post above, it is all in the other thread. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 If this is the case, after 25 years, the Jets (more specifically WoodY) can lap my sack, I will be out. I will still watch the games and root for the team but I would rather make the investment in my kids education or something similar. It's football for god's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Upper Level- Between the 30s. $4000 PSL. $1050/year tickets. Upper Corner- $800 up front, $800/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets Upper End Zone- $500 up front, $500/year for 5 years- PSL. $900/year tickets. Upper Level 30s to the end zone- $300 up front, $135/year for 15 years- PSL. $1050/year tickets. Upper Level 30 to corner- $200 up front, $200/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets. Lower Level- Between the 30s. $5000 up front, $5000/year the next 5 years- PSL. $1650/year tickets. Lower Level- 30 to the end zone. $20000 PSL. $1450/year ticket. Lower End Zone- $2400 up front, $2400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1050/year ticket. Lower 30 to corner- $400 up front, $400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1365/year ticket. Coaches Club Seats: Lower Level- Top 10 rows between 30 and 40. $4000 up front, $1800/year for 5 years- PSL. $6250/year ticket Lower Level- 50 Yard Line, Top 10 Rows. $50000- PSL. $6250/year ticket. Lower Level 50 Yard Line- $30000- PSL. $6250/year ticket. Lower Level- 1st 10 rows between 30 and 40- $2500 up front, $2500/year for 5 years- PSL $6250/year ticket. Mezz between 20 and end zone- $2000 up front, $2000/year for 5 years. $5250/year ticket. Mezz between 20 and end zone- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket. Mezz between 20 and 40- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket. Mezz- 50 yard line- $8000 up front, $3500/year for 15 years-PSL. $5250/year ticket. ok so what is the average PSL? I know there aren't an equal # of seats in each "section" as they're broken down here, but if most of them were assumed to be equal just to get a ballpark #... $3K upper level; assume that's 50% of the seats $15K lower level; assume it's 30% of the seats $17K mezz level; assume it's 15% of the seats $20K club seats; assume it's 5% of the seats I'm sure I am off, but just to get an idea of the totals on an 80,000-seat stadium... 40,000 x $3K = $120,000,000 24,000 x $15K = $360,000,000 12,000 x $17K = $204,000,000 4,000 x $20K = $80,000,000 ---------------------------- total PSL revenue = ~$750,000,000 And this stadium is costing the teams $600,000,000 each? Even if I'm off by some $150,000,000+, it seems to me the PSL's aren't "helping" to finance the stadium. They're FULLY paying for the stadium. Cost to Woody Johnson: $0.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 does not anyone else find these numbers obscene WHEN THEY SHARE A STADIUM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Whatever happened to the naming rights subsidizing some of the costs to the real fans is one question I would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Nice little cash cow it's turned into. Seems my blind guess figures that totaled $750M weren't that off (that's roughly the Giants figure apparently). So that already exceeds the cost of the stadium by over $100M. Then the 5 advertisers will bring in another $25-30M/year for each of the two teams. This is in addition to the revenue the teams get ordinarily anyway. You guys who have been going to the games for years are getting screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Nice little cash cow it's turned into. Seems my blind guess figures that totaled $750M weren't that off (that's roughly the Giants figure apparently). So that already exceeds the cost of the stadium by over $100M. Then the 5 advertisers will bring in another $25-30M/year for each of the two teams. This is in addition to the revenue the teams get ordinarily anyway. You guys who have been going to the games for years are getting screwed. Cmon it is fine. There is plenty of milk left in the cow. You act as if people are getting laid off and the cost of living is out of control. You guys and the way you over react.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 The only ones that are going to be happy are the wives and girlfriends of all of the former season ticket holders who will now be in the area on Sundays... or maybe not because I will need to hire a personal carpenter to continually fix sheetrock damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cant Hackett Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 The only ones that are going to be happy are the wives and girlfriends of all of the former season ticket holders who will now be in the area on Sundays... or maybe not because I will need to hire a personal carpenter to continually fix sheetrock damage Spending more time with the spouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Spending more time with the spouse…........... Or paying out all that money for PSL...... Either way Divorce rate could be going up. So true. Thank you Woody John$on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Anyone who supports this PSL scheme is an IDIOT.True there are many who can afford it but is it all worth it is the question. I dont sponge off my parents or live in their basement.I live in N.J I make a decent living pay a mortgage and high property taxes but frivolous wasteful spending is not on my agenda. The NYJETS have taken away the real fans NFL experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Anyone who supports this PSL scheme is an IDIOT.True there are many who can afford it but is it all worth it is the question. I dont sponge off my parents or live in their basement.I live in N.J I make a decent living pay a mortgage and high property taxes but frivolous wasteful spending is not on my agenda. The NYJETS have taken away the real fans NFL experience. I just love your blanket statements. So, if I get that right. If, because I love the Jets and want to continue to be a season ticket holder, I actually pay the PSL and continue to go to the games I am an idiot. Nice. Oh, and I am also not a real fan either. Must be nice to live in such a black and white world. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I just love your blanket statements. So, if I get that right. If, because I love the Jets and want to continue to be a season ticket holder, I actually pay the PSL and continue to go to the games I am an idiot. Nice. Oh, and I am also not a real fan either. Must be nice to live in such a black and white world. BZ I didnt say because you paid the price.I said anyone who SUPPORTED it!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUPPORTED as in answering the survey in a positive way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I just love your blanket statements. So, if I get that right. If, because I love the Jets and want to continue to be a season ticket holder, I actually pay the PSL and continue to go to the games I am an idiot. Nice. Oh, and I am also not a real fan either. Must be nice to live in such a black and white world. BZ Oh man, can somebody photoshop this head in an empty new Meadowlands stadium. please, anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I didnt say because you paid the price.I said anyone who SUPPORTED it!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUPPORTED as in answering the survey in a positive way. Since I only got a few questions in the survey before it was over, I didn't get a chance to actually post anything. If the price of the PSL wasn't a factor (meaning, lets just say that they were all $100 a seat), the IDEA of a PSL is good. That you have the RIGHTS to seat and can sell those rights on the open market. The other model (Patriots) is that you have no rights to sell the tickets and have to pay big fees ($5,000 per) to transfer the rights. So, now it is about cost. Either way this is going to be more expensive and the fans are going to pay a percentage of that through higher prices on everything from parking to tickets to beer and hot dogs. To break it down, lets say every season ticket holder is going to $10,000 towards the new stadium. Scenario #1. NO PSLs, they just raise the parking up to $50, and the ticket prices up to 100%. (Patriots model). Over the next ten years, you just pay more for everything, but have no rights to sell those tickets and high fees. Scenario #2. PSLs. You pay $2,000-$3,000 per seat, but parking only goes up to $30 and the ticket prices only go up 15%. You have the right to sell those tickets when you want and no huge fees to do so. Either way, the fans are going to pay. So are the sponsors. So are the corporations. If I am going to pay for it, I rather pay a bigger up front cost and lower maintenance with the rights to sell than no up front, much higher maintenance and no ownership rights. Too logical? Maybe. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Is the PSL fee refundable if you choose to opt out of your tickets say after 3 years.Im hearing yes and no. I trully dont have the $10k to donate to the NYJETS and not collect any interest or get a refund. How will the PSL affect the online sites that have an awful lot of tickets for sale this year more than ive ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 BZ I would go for option # 2 in your post. If it only cost me $2,000 one time fee and the tickets went up 20 - 30% in the new stadium, I would do that. At this point I hope that is what happens actually. Anything more than that and I am out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I could play around with the real math, but don't really have the time. It would take the cost for every season holder and spread it out in either ticket/amenity prices or into a PSL. I guess my point has always been, we are going to pay, not just a matter of HOW we pay, what value we get out of paying and how MUCH we pay. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Scenario #2. PSLs. You pay $2,000-$3,000 per seat, but parking only goes up to $30 and the ticket prices only go up 15%. You have the right to sell those tickets when you want and no huge fees to do so. Too logical? Maybe. BZ So you think that the tickets will have an initial increase and then stay at the same level for the next 10 years or so? The Jets have raised rices every year except one since Woody bought the team. In reality you can expect to pay the PSL and then get at the very least, semi-annual increases. The exodus of season ticket holders has started already and it's a damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 So you think that the tickets will have an initial increase and then stay at the same level for the next 10 years or so? The Jets have raised rices every year except one since Woody bought the team. In reality you can expect to pay the PSL and then get at the very least, semi-annual increases. The exodus of season ticket holders has started already and it's a damn shame. No, they won't stay static, but do you want your tickets to increase by 10-20% or 150-200% like they did for the Patriots? BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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