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A-Rod 75-80% chance to get through 2009 season

Morrissey

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Do you roll the dice and let A-Rod play through the injury?  

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  1. 1. Do you roll the dice and let A-Rod play through the injury?

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Morrissey

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3957971

Hip surgery is the worst-case scenario for Alex Rodriguez, but the specialist who examined the Yankees' third baseman earlier this week indicated there is a very good chance that Rodriguez could play the whole season with the labrum tear, sources say.

In a Thursday conference call with the Yankees and other parties, Dr. Marc Philippon, the specialist, described for others how the surgery would work. But there also was an indication, during the call, that there is a "75 to 80 percent chance" Rodriguez could get through the 2009 season playing through the discomfort.

Do you roll the dice?

Seems like pretty good odds to me.

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He's a living exhibit of Murphy's Law. If it can go bad for A-rod, it will.

Think it's kind of unfair that he merely says something nice about Jose Reyes and it's made out that he's badmouthing Jeter and Damon. get the impression that if A-rod shows up early for games, the media will make it seem like he's trying to make his teammates look bad. If he and the Yankees have an ounce of sense he will stop talking to reporters altogether, not to be nasty but simply to stop this idiocy.

And then he should go grab more hot big-boobed blonde pole dancers, preferably out of camera range. Hot big-boobed blonde pole dancers are people too. What's the point of being a pro athlete if you cannot do that? Really missing how that makes him a bad guy. He's a young guy with money to burn; why not? Instead he should go on sissy cooking shows like that gay fidget Mike Lupica, is that the idea? What would you prefer-boozing it up with hot women with daddy issues and loose morals, or cheese souffle made by that fatass gourmet, Lupica's buddy Ina Garten, with the closeted husband Jeffrey who's never home?

I don't get a. why he got married nor b. why he messed with the crypkeeper Madonna.Hopefully such activities have no deleterious effects on playing 3rd base nor batting.

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Sean, I disagree. All indications are if he were to have the surgery, he'd be back by the All-Star break. I'd much feel much better knowing he's 100% down the stretch than have him play in pain for what might be the whole season.

I've seen it too many times. He's going to play through the pain, and he's going to hurt some other part of his body overcompensating. Or it will adversely affect his game. And it will get progressively worse throught the year until the point that he's going to have to go for the surgery in August.

I see no point in postponing the inevitable. He's going to miss a large chunk of games. Take the hit now and fix him and get him out there at 100% later.

Think about the Posada situation last year. Huge mistake.

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Here's tthe thing-Certainly playing on it can make the injury worse.

Does doing that jeopardize his career?

I think the doctor (he was a guest) on Boomer and Carton this morning said no it wouldn't jeopardize his career, but he's eventually going to need surgery.

I'm not sure if these is true, but I've heard people say Mike Lowell had the same injury for years, he go it when he was on Marlins, and just last season did it become unbearable. Red Sox knew he had this injury, and so did the Orioles, who nixed a trade because of it.

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I think the doctor on Boom and Carton this morning said no it wouldn't jeopardize his career, but he's eventually going to need surgery.

I'm not sure if these is true, but I've heard people say Mike Lowell had the same injury for years, he go it when he was on Marlins, and just last season did it become unbearable. Red Sox knew he had this injury, and so did the Orioles, who nixed a trade because of it.

This is a quarter of a billion dollar question. 2017 is a long time to have him on the payroll. Do the Yankees risk that?

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Sean, I disagree. All indications are if he were to have the surgery, he'd be back by the All-Star break. I'd much feel much better knowing he's 100% down the stretch than have him play in pain for what might be the whole season.

I've seen it too many times. He's going to play through the pain, and he's going to hurt some other part of his body overcompensating. Or it will adversely affect his game. And it will get progressively worse throught the year until the point that he's going to have to go for the surgery in August.

I see no point in postponing the inevitable. He's going to miss a large chunk of games. Take the hit now and fix him and get him out there at 100% later.

Think about the Posada situation last year. Huge mistake.

Agree 100%. They can deal with 3 months of patching it up, getting him back in June or July totally healthy. But missing him for August through the postseason makes it potential huge debacle.
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Agree 100%. They can deal with 3 months of patching it up, getting him back in June or July totally healthy. But missing him for August through the postseason makes it potential huge debacle.

I'll try to pre-empt the inevitable "ARod disappears in October anyway" jokes. Regardless of your perception of him, it is in the Yankees best interest to ensure that he is in the lineup late in the season.

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Sean, I disagree. All indications are if he were to have the surgery, he'd be back by the All-Star break. I'd much feel much better knowing he's 100% down the stretch than have him play in pain for what might be the whole season.

I've seen it too many times. He's going to play through the pain, and he's going to hurt some other part of his body overcompensating. Or it will adversely affect his game. And it will get progressively worse throught the year until the point that he's going to have to go for the surgery in August.

I see no point in postponing the inevitable. He's going to miss a large chunk of games. Take the hit now and fix him and get him out there at 100% later.

Think about the Posada situation last year. Huge mistake.

Posada and A-Rod have 2 different injuries. No one has ever played through torn labrum in the shoulder. Chase Utley played through the whole season last year with the same injury A-Rod has, and supposedly Lowell played through it for years. Labrum in the shoulder and hip do to different things, the labrum in the shoulder keeps the shoulder together, that's not the case with hip. The doctor on WFAN this morning said they only started having surgery for a torn hip labrum the last 10-15 years, before that players payed through it with rest and rehab.

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I'll try to pre-empt the inevitable "ARod disappears in October anyway" jokes. Regardless of your perception of him, it is in the Yankees best interest to ensure that he is in the lineup late in the season.

A-Rod could be gone for 4-6 months if he has surgery. **** that.

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It is incredibly stupid to think A-Rod out of the lineup is a good thing, just his presence in the lineup alone makes us better.

Without A-Rod, we now have to rely on 2 guys who had major arm and knee surgery this off season. Oh and if our new 1B starts slow like he usually does, the season could be over before it started.

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Posada and A-Rod have 2 different injuries. No one has ever played through torn labrum in the shoulder. Chase Utley played through the whole season last year with the same injury A-Rod has, and supposedly Lowell played through it for years. Labrum in the shoulder and hip do to different things, the labrum in the shoulder keeps the shoulder together, that's not the case with hip. The doctor on WFAN this morning said they only started having surgery for a torn hip labrum the last 10-15 years, before that players payed through it with rest and rehab.

This isn't a new injury for ARod, either. He had it at least as far back as last year. And there is no indication that the severity is the same or any less than Lowell's was for all those years. It may well be as bad now as Lowell's was last season, otherwise immediate surgery would have never been an option. And Lowell was clearly affected by it last season and wasn't even on their postseason roster as a result.

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This isn't a new injury for ARod, either. He had it at least as far back as last year. And there is no indication that the severity is the same or any less than Lowell's was for all those years. It may well be as bad now as Lowell's was last season, otherwise immediate surgery would have never been an option. And Lowell was clearly affected by it last season and wasn't even on their postseason roster as a result.

He had an MRI last year that didn't show a tear. He hasn't felt any pain, none at all, just stiffness.

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I think A-Rod can probably play through it. The question is how effective he will be? Are we looking at .280/25/85. or A-Rodesque numbers, who knows. As you guys mentioned Utley did play through a similar injury last year, but at the same time he was not close to the player he was for the first 2-3 months. I had him on my fantasy team. He cost me first place. Boourns to Utley.

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He had an MRI last year that didn't show a tear. He hasn't felt any pain, none at all, just stiffness.

Last year no tear? 1) Link? and 2) This year he DOES have a tear.

ARod is telling the team he has stiffness? How can you trust anything that comes out of this guy's mouth? Ever? He's not and never has been about the best interests of the team. He wants to be out there playing for himself. He wants people think he's tough to play through it. He wants to get out there and hit to prove he can without roids. He's all about his image and his personal demons. He doesn't give a crap about the Yankees.

Let me ask you something. Just playing devil's advocate. If it's May 15 and ARod is hitting .235 with 2 home runs, will you change your mind and start demanding he go for the surgery?

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Last year no tear? 1) Link? and 2) This year he DOES have a tear.

ARod is telling the team he has stiffness? How can you trust anything that comes out of this guy's mouth? Ever? He's not and never has been about the best interests of the team. He wants to be out there playing for himself. He wants people think he's tough to play through it. He wants to get out there and hit to prove he can without roids. He's all about his image and his personal demons. He doesn't give a crap about the Yankees.

Let me ask you something. Just playing devil's advocate. If it's May 15 and ARod is hitting .235 with 2 home runs, will you change your mind and start demanding he go for the surgery?

You don't even trust the guy when he says he's not feeling pain, no point in me continuing this discussion with you.

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I think A-Rod can probably play through it. The question is how effective he will be? Are we looking at .280/25/85. or A-Rodesque numbers, who knows. As you guys mentioned Utley did play through a similar injury last year, but at the same time he was not close to the player he was for the first 2-3 months. I had him on my fantasy team. He cost me first place. Boourns to Utley.

He wasn't the same player the 1st two months? Wouldn't he get worse as the season gets going?

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He wasn't the same player the 1st two months? Wouldn't he get worse as the season gets going?

Yes, he was awful after the first couple of months. He had like 20 long balls early and his power production went way down after mid June or so.

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If he has to retire do to injury does his salary go away? :shutit:

He needs to have the surgery... get healthy... and then come back... the last thing he needs is to play all year and you know once october comes around it will "bother" him and he will suck...

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If he has to retire do to injury does his salary go away? :shutit:

He needs to have the surgery... get healthy... and then come back... the last thing he needs is to play all year and you know once october comes around it will "bother" him and he will suck...

If he is forced to retire due to injury, my guess is insurance will probably cover most if not all of his salary. Worse case scenario, is that A-Rod is slowly breaking down and you're looking at the backside of his career and this is one of those injuries that you never really recover from. Probably not the case, but who knows.

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You don't even trust the guy when he says he's not feeling pain, no point in me continuing this discussion with you.

There is no reason to trust this guy. Ever.

Do you believe Derek Jeter when he tells you he isn't in pain? He'd never fess up to it. Only in his case, the motivation is much different.

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