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Foxborough Gets Tough On Public Inebriation

by Phil Sullivan on March 9, 2011[edit]

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Here is an interesting story about how Foxboro is getting tough on public inebriation. They are implementing $200 fines for public drunkenness. Hey Fitzy will you prepay that charge or just settle up each week?

FOXBOROUGH

— In the past three years, as local bars and tailgaters have multiplied, the Patriots’ hometown has seen a surge in public drunkenness, with police carting off hundreds of people either passed out on bar stools or otherwise showing signs of being inebriated.

“If it isn’t a state law, I feel it’s unfair to focus on us here in Foxborough,’’ said Matt Egan, a barman at Waxy O’Connor’s Irish Pub on Main Street. “I feel like we’re not going to be treated fairly. It’s more of a problem at the stadium. It just seems open to a lot of potential abuse.’’

The idea of police officers using their judgment to determine whether someone drank too much and should be subject to a fine bothered some bartenders.

Paicos said town officials are also concerned about upcoming concerts at the stadium. “Hopefully, this will be a deterrent,’’ Paicos said. “And if $200 doesn’t seem to make an impact, then eventually we’ll get to the level where we’ll raise it again.’’

“In the last six months, we’ve already done more than we did in the 12 months before that,’’ said town administrator Kevin Paicos. “We’re on a pace to eclipse what we did last year, and we are fast outstripping our resources.’’

The 100-to-47 vote Monday night was inspired in part by a record 95 people taken into protective custody and another 16 people arrested for crimes on the night in December when the Patriots trounced the New York Jets.

Since 2007, when the town issued 15 additional liquor licenses inside and outside Gillette Stadium, the number of people deemed publicly intoxicated and taken into protective custody has nearly tripled, with police detaining 933 last year.

“I want people to think, ‘Instead of having that gin and tonic or that beer, that maybe I’ll have a bottle of water,’ ’’ O’Leary said.

O’Leary said the law had nothing to do with the deaths of 20-year-old Debra Davis of Milton and her friend Alexa Latteo, 19, of Mansfield, who were killed in a 2008 car crash after a day of drinking at a music festival at Gillette Stadium.

To curb the problem, a Special Town Meeting this week approved a $200 fine for anyone taken into protective custody for public intoxication, making Foxborough and Dedham, according to the state attorney general’s office, the only two towns with such bylaws in the state. Town Meeting also imposed the same fine for those caught smoking marijuana in public.

“We have a huge, growing community problem with people who are impaired by alcohol and who put themselves and other people in the community in jeopardy,’’ said Edward T. O’Leary, chief of the Foxborough Police Department. “Education programs have not been successful in curbing the continuing trend. We need to do something about it.’’

Officials at the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts questioned how the bylaw would be implemented. Before the new fines take effect, they need approval from officials at the attorney general’s office, who have yet to review the plan.

“There is a subjectivity problem,’’ said John Reinstein, the ACLU’s legal director. “What’s to determine public drunkenness? Is it the same as drunken driving? What’s the standard, how will it be enforced, and is there some fair way of screening out those who shouldn’t be taken into custody in the first place?’’

He added: “The question is whether the town is unfairly extracting money from people who shouldn’t have to subsidize Foxborough and the New England Patriots.’’

Jeff Cournoyer, a spokesman for the Kraft Group, which owns the stadium and the Patriots, declined to comment.

O’Leary insisted the bylaw has nothing to do with boosting town revenues. He said the fines cover the costs of taking someone into custody, including the use of hazmat crews to hose down cells where people have become sickened by drinking.

“It’s ludicrous to suggest that this is for funding,’’ he said.

Foxborough receives a steady stream of money from the Kraft Group, including nearly $2 million a year from ticket sales, $1.8 million a year to pay local and volunteer police details for stadium events, and $179,000 in administrative fees, town officials said.

When asked how his officers determine whom to take into custody, O’Leary said they use common sense. “They determine whether the person is unaware of their surroundings or they exhibit the odor of alcohol,’’ he said. “Being passed out or being covered in vomit would be another indication.’’

He said those who agree to take a breath test are released if they have a blood-alcohol level of 0.05 percent or lower. Those put into protective custody are usually held until they are sober.

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Here is an interesting story about how Foxboro is getting tough on public inebriation.   They are implementing $200 fines for public drunkenness.  Hey Fitzy will you prepay that charge or just settle up each week?

FOXBOROUGH

— In the past three years, as local bars and tailgaters have multiplied, the Patriots’ hometown has seen a surge in public drunkenness, with police carting off hundreds of people either passed out on bar stools or otherwise showing signs of being inebriated.

“If it isn’t a state law, I feel it’s unfair to focus on us here in Foxborough,’’ said Matt Egan, a barman at Waxy O’Connor’s Irish Pub on Main Street. “I feel like we’re not going to be treated fairly. It’s more of a problem at the stadium. It just seems open to a lot of potential abuse.’’

The idea of police officers using their judgment to determine whether someone drank too much and should be subject to a fine bothered some bartenders.

Paicos said town officials are also concerned about upcoming concerts at the stadium. “Hopefully, this will be a deterrent,’’ Paicos said. “And if $200 doesn’t seem to make an impact, then eventually we’ll get to the level where we’ll raise it again.’’

“In the last six months, we’ve already done more than we did in the 12 months before that,’’ said town administrator Kevin Paicos. “We’re on a pace to eclipse what we did last year, and we are fast outstripping our resources.’’

The 100-to-47 vote Monday night was inspired in part by a record 95 people taken into protective custody and another 16 people arrested for crimes on the night in December when the Patriots trounced the New York Jets.

Since 2007, when the town issued 15 additional liquor licenses inside and outside Gillette Stadium, the number of people deemed publicly intoxicated and taken into protective custody has nearly tripled, with police detaining 933 last year.

“I want people to think, ‘Instead of having that gin and tonic or that beer, that maybe I’ll have a bottle of water,’ ’’ O’Leary said.

O’Leary said the law had nothing to do with the deaths of 20-year-old Debra Davis of Milton and her friend Alexa Latteo, 19, of Mansfield, who were killed in a 2008 car crash after a day of drinking at a music festival at Gillette Stadium.

To curb the problem, a Special Town Meeting this week approved a $200 fine for anyone taken into protective custody for public intoxication, making Foxborough and Dedham, according to the state attorney general’s office, the only two towns with such bylaws in the state. Town Meeting also imposed the same fine for those caught smoking marijuana in public.

“We have a huge, growing community problem with people who are impaired by alcohol and who put themselves and other people in the community in jeopardy,’’ said Edward T. O’Leary, chief of the Foxborough Police Department. “Education programs have not been successful in curbing the continuing trend. We need to do something about it.’’

Officials at the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts questioned how the bylaw would be implemented. Before the new fines take effect, they need approval from officials at the attorney general’s office, who have yet to review the plan.

“There is a subjectivity problem,’’ said John Reinstein, the ACLU’s legal director. “What’s to determine public drunkenness? Is it the same as drunken driving? What’s the standard, how will it be enforced, and is there some fair way of screening out those who shouldn’t be taken into custody in the first place?’’

He added: “The question is whether the town is unfairly extracting money from people who shouldn’t have to subsidize Foxborough and the New England Patriots.’’

Jeff Cournoyer, a spokesman for the Kraft Group, which owns the stadium and the Patriots, declined to comment.

O’Leary insisted the bylaw has nothing to do with boosting town revenues. He said the fines cover the costs of taking someone into custody, including the use of hazmat crews to hose down cells where people have become sickened by drinking.

“It’s ludicrous to suggest that this is for funding,’’ he said.

Foxborough receives a steady stream of money from the Kraft Group, including nearly $2 million a year from ticket sales, $1.8 million a year to pay local and volunteer police details for stadium events, and $179,000 in administrative fees, town officials said.

When asked how his officers determine whom to take into custody, O’Leary said they use common sense. “They determine whether the person is unaware of their surroundings or they exhibit the odor of alcohol,’’ he said. “Being passed out or being covered in vomit would be another indication.’’

He said those who agree to take a breath test are released if they have a blood-alcohol level of 0.05 percent or lower. Those put into protective custody are usually held until they are sober.

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Honestly, the public drunkedness issues at Pats games has decreased considerably since the Krafts came into ownership. Security is WAY tighter, they have non-alcohol family sections, tailgating patrols, etc. Shoot, there are state troopers every where. This is a money grab by the town of Foxboro. It will pass. It's Massachusetts, afterall.

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Honestly, the public drunkedness issues at Pats games has decreased considerably since the Krafts came into ownership. Security is WAY tighter, they have non-alcohol family sections, tailgating patrols, etc. Shoot, there are state troopers every where. This is a money grab by the town of Foxboro. It will pass. It's Massachusetts, afterall.

Well, that is true of society overall in that time period. I don't think that Robert Kraft was the messiah on this one alone ;)

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Well, that is true of society overall in that time period. I don't think that Robert Kraft was the messiah on this one alone ;)

Remember, this IS Garb you're quoting. Ms. The-Pats-can-do-no-wrong. Of course it's all Kraft's doing :rolleyes:

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Its gonna get better once they start losing more. Winning is good celebration, losing brings out the mean nasty drunks.

That is a really good point. They have won for a LONG time, imagine how it would be when they eventually go 6 and 10 one year.

Now where is my axe? lol...

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Speaking of public inebriation- check out the police blotter for the Hoboken St Patricks Day(which has already been cancelled for next year)

Miscellaneous Incidents

12:59am: 124 Garden St. – “noise complaint…”

12:47am: 3rd & Wash – “party passed out drunk near McDonalds…”

(Hoboken411 took a brief break – cool with that?)

11:08pm: Two idiots arrested at 3rd and Willow – will they learn? Nah.

11:03pm: 1st and River – Car strikes “Hoboken Rapid Deployment Vehicle” near Lana Lounge

11:01pm: Hoboken411 enjoys Truglio’s Hamburgers! Best on planet earth

11:00pm: “Intoxicated Person” at 11th and Washington – what a coincidence!

10:40pm: Fight 513 1st Street – knife involved – multiple cops responding

10:28pm: Still alarm of fire “Odor of smoke” 320 Jackson St.

10:20pm: 102 Bloomfield – “Very intoxicated Female” – Attractive

10:07pm: 3rd & Bloomfield – passed out drunk

10:03pm: Spa Diner – reports of a fight

9:22pm: Another drunk with head injury – 95 Hudson St. – What’s up with downtown?

9:18pm: Drunk with head injury – 93 Garden Street

9:13pm: Assault – 6th & Clinton – Actor running southbound from 5th & Clinton

9:02pm: 1st & Grand – Female laceration to the face “bleeding heavily” EMS en route

9:00pm: Female passed out in cab at 505 Madison St.

8:45pm: Double Drunk Feature: Man down 5th & River – Woman down 2nd & Park

8:39pm: The 10th & Park fight – they’re looking for a man with gun…

8:38pm: Fight – 10th and Park – you think they had anything to drink?

8:31pm: Drunk passed out on ground…

8:20pm: Spa Diner “unruly drunk”

8:15pm: Man tried stealing liquor at Farside Bar

8:00pm: female rape victim at HUMC Hospital.

7:56pm: 415 Washington – street fight

7:53pm: 702 Washington – folks tossing crap out windows

7:39pm: Female passes out in Port-o-John – Hudson St. & Hudson Pl.

7:35pm: Drunk Arrested at 3rd & Adams

7:29pm: Fire investigation at 1023 Washington St. Reports of smoke on roof

7:28pm: Three Arrested at 3rd & Jefferson 2 males – 1 female

7:18pm: fight at 5th and Wash – EMS requested

7:00pm: fight at 9th and Wash

6:58pm: mayhem – fight in front of teak – and assault at 2nd and river

6:55pm: 1315 Washington fight at Sushi House

6:50pm: 11th and Grand “man down”

6:45pm: man assaulted 10th & Willow

6:37pm: 118 Washington – “fight going good…”

6:36pm: 4th & Garden – drunk tries breaking into Ambulance “he’s in bad shape”

6:28pm: 6th & Garden – unconscious drunk…

6:16pm: 704 Grand St. “intoxicated male” EMS en route

6:12pm: 55 Newark St. “Debris flying out the window”

5:55pm: 413 Washington – ticket for open container

5:49pm: 1st & Bloomfield – overly intoxicated male – EMS dispatched

5:27pm: 422 Washington Street – 4 disorderly summonses issued

5:18pm: 8th and Clinton – “Female with severe burn to the arm”

5:14pm: “Man waving gun” at 14th Street Ferry Terminal (idiot with cap gun)

5:06pm: 11th and Clinton – two arrests

4:55pm: Officer requesting backup near 1st & River post office – fight (and arrest)

4:46pm: Robbery at TEAK bar

4:45pm: Two fire alarms – 333 River and 505 Madison St.

4:44pm: 6th & Willow – Street fight

4:41pm: 1024 Clinton – one injured male – and another “tearing up the lobby…”

4:40pm: (UNCONFIRMED) but “DOA” reported at HUMC Hospital – supposedly a young girl

4:35pm: Observer & Park – Street fight (probably over something stupid)

4:33pm: NJ Transit Bus terminal downtown – incapacitated male

4:22pm: two fire calls – 91 Grand and 405 Washington

4:16pm: 460 5th Street – injured party – assault in apt 6E

4:15pm: Sinatra Park – “Man Down”

4:14pm: Hudson St. & Hudson Place – drunk male belligerent with Police

4:13pm: 800 Madison – drunk female passed out – EMS requested

4:06pm: 66 Madison – pedestrian hit by car – EMS on scene

3:57pm: 63 5th Street – ticket for open container

3:56pm: 106 6th Street – ticket for open container

3:54pm: 300 Grand – ticket for open container

3:45pm: 204 Washington St. – unconscious drunk needs ambulance for survival

3:42pm: 3rd & Grand – ticket for open container

3:41pm: 1st & Washington – intoxicated person – EMS en route

3:38pm: 153 8th Street – fight

3:36pm: 254 6th Street – fight

3:35pm: 1st & Bloomfield – Open Container behind city hall

3:28pm: 1001 Clinton – fire alarms activated

3:24pm: two car accidents – 2nd & Marshall and 1st & Grand

3:17pm: 5th and Grand – male assaulted two females then threw brick through window

3:06pm: 3rd & Jackson – intoxicated male

2:44pm: 10th and Bloom – open container summons

2:16pm: 12th & Wash – injured party – EMS dispatched

2:13pm: 606 Grand Street – ticket for open container

2:13pm: 212 Adams – four tickets issued

2:12pm: 102 1th Street – two tickets for disorderly

2:10pm: 203 Court Street – ticket for public urination

2:10pm: 219 Grand – person passed out in hallway

1:59pm: 4 tickets issued unruly house 1014 Wash

1:58pm: 2nd & Wash – ticket for open container

1:49pm: Smoke reported at 805/807 Wash – turned out to be unruly house

1:48pm: ticket for open container at 2nd and Jackson

1:31pm: idiots throwing bottles from 333 River towards the W Hotel entrance – tickets issued

1:22pm: 704 Washington – bottle thrown out of window

1:17pm: 106 Washington – one ticket issued – open container

12:57pm: Two tickets issued – 800 Jefferson

12:41pm: “Large group walking westbound on 6th St. damaging parked cars…”

12:35pm: Girl exposes breasts – 8th & Clinton

12:30pm: 801 Madison – idiot pulls fire alarm

12:26pm: 250 3rd Street – ticket for open container

12:10pm: 1036 Garden – $2000 ticket for open container

11:44am: Illegally parked cars 12th & Clinton – “making it difficult for buses to turn”

11:38am: Hoboken Batman helping HPD with Traffic

11:25am: Councilman Peter Cunningham – Car illegally parked – blocking intersection 10th and Garden

Unruly House Parties

6:47pm – 323 Willow – unruly house party

6:27pm – 827 Willow – balcony issues (“cake boss” family member)

6:05pm – 227 Adams – apt. 9 – “out of control party” AGAIN

5:52pm – 227 Adams St. – disorderly house

5:36pm – 235 Hudson Street – hundreds of idiots causing a scene HPD responding for the 4th time

5:21pm – 800 Washington – unauthorized rooftop party

3:31pm – 116 Willow – large party (and assault)

2:46pm – 716 Grand – HFD en route – hazard

2:44pm – 114 Clinton – overcrowding

1:27pm – 726 Wash – large group drinking

1:03pm – 1st & Hudson rooftop

12:57pm – 1210 Hudson – unauthorized rooftop – Applied housing

12:53pm – 77 River Street – Apt. 3 & 4 & Lobby “large unruly crowd”

12:50pm – 1015 Washington “throwing cups and things out the window…”

12:35pm – 1026 Bloomfield – ditto

12:34pm – 9th & wash – unruly balcony party…

12:24pm – 9th & monroe – “overflowing balcony”

12:19pm – 7th & Garden “Roof top party about to be busted up…”

12:15pm – 409 Washington – House party – ticket issued

12:10pm – 301 Grand – overcrowding

12:00pm – 701 Garden – unruly house party

11:46am – 408 Washington “Large party, rooftops, windows, fire escapes…”

11:36am – 4th and Monroe – Party on Roof

11:28am – Tickets issued – 517 Bloomfield St…

11:20am – 1035 Bloomfield – loud backyard party

11:20am – 120 Washington Street – unauthorized rooftop party

11:07am – 104 14th Street – loud party

11:04am – 61 Court Street – loud rooftop party

11:00am – 513 Bloomfield Street – drunks!

More updates to come…

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So just because there are a few incidents lets cancel all the fun!

There are always going to be a few people that take it too far. There were 80,000+ people at that game and sure 933 of them were idiots. A very minuscule percentage. But instead of doing what police are supposed to do and are paid to do by the taxpayers, lets take the rights of these taxpayers away.

The new rule leaves a lot to be subject to the police's judgement. So what are the chances that for the next JETS-Pats game at Foxboro unusually large number of JETS fans are arrested.

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Not defending drunks, but 110 people out of 70,000 is a rather small percentage.

Also, how many detained were Jets fans? :lol:

I am not trying to make social commentary here, but the point of the article is that there is an increase over the past 3 years. That is probably what has officials worried.

Just because 110 people were cited, does not mean that 110 people were the only ones that were involved

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The 100-to-47 vote Monday night was inspired in part by a record 95 people taken into protective custody and another 16 people arrested for crimes on the night in December when the Patriots trounced the New York Jets.

Conversely, the police added, the night the Jets knocked the Patriots out of the playoffs was sobering.

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Good move by the Town of Foxboro IMO. The cops have been putting drunks in pc since the Pats moved to Foxboro. There are no charges when you are placed in protective custody as the cops take you to a "corral" and make you stay there until you sober up. If the Town wants $200 then good for them. No court date just a simple fine.

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Good move by the Town of Foxboro IMO. The cops have been putting drunks in pc since the Pats moved to Foxboro. There are no charges when you are placed in protective custody as the cops take you to a "corral" and make you stay there until you sober up. If the Town wants $200 then good for them. No court date just a simple fine.

I agree. Let's take the douchebags out of the stadiums by hitting them in their wallets. I'd say $200 is a little light. Why not hit them up for $500? That should keep them out of the stands for a couple of games.

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