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#1 Freemanm

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:27 PM

the Jets reached a whole new level of suckiness after the draft today. Seriously, it's become a farce, and today proved it. In fact, the Jets don't even fall in to the "this team sucks but is heading in the right direction" level, they are on the "this team sucks and there really is no light at the end of the tunnel" level. In my 32 years as a Jets fan now, this is one of the lowest points ever.

 

Why on earth would you trade Revis for a number one pick, and then use that pick to draft a corner who probably isn't going to be as good as him, and who is prone to season ending injuries? To further the absurdity that is the Jets' 2013 draft, even though the Jets OL is still the unit that is in most need of an upgrade (especially after losing two starting guards), OL Warmck and Fluker were still available at 9 and were passed up in favor of an injury-prone CB and a defensive tackle, even though the past tow years the Jets have drafted DL with their number ones.

 

Are the Jets any better after this draft? I won't insult anyone by giving the politically correct answer of "We'll see." I can state confidently at this point that the Jets suck, their draft picks sucks, and now we find out that Idzik sucks.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:29 PM

They didn't do what you just said they did. Revis got them their second pick. If Milliner is 60% of the player Revis is, at 75% of the cost, I'll take it.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:53 PM

Not the picks I wanted, but the board broke very porly with all the OLBs and Austin off the board. However, I do not believe Idzik and co were lying when they said they picked 2 of their top 4 players, it's very likely that's true. Look around, Millner is considered by many the best CB in the draft and a top 5 talent and Richardson is unanimously thought of as a top 10 talent.  Not sure the latter fills a need, but everyone here wanted BPA and it seems that's what we got.  I'm not thrilled about it, but I'm not too beat up by it either.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

Not the picks I wanted, but the board broke very porly with all the OLBs and Austin off the board. However, I do not believe Idzik and co were lying when they said they picked 2 of their top 4 players, it's very likely that's true. Look around, Millner is considered by many the best CB in the draft and a top 5 talent and Richardson is unanimously thought of as a top 10 talent.  Not sure the latter fills a need, but everyone here wanted BPA and it seems that's what we got.  I'm not thrilled about it, but I'm not too beat up by it either.

 

we got these 2 guys and if we draft geno and oline/WR/TE im gonna be excited for the season


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

They didn't do what you just said they did. Revis got them their second pick. If Milliner is 60% of the player Revis is, at 75% of the cost, I'll take it.

 

And 0% the drama of worrying about holdouts every single year..


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:01 PM

Not the picks I wanted, but the board broke very porly with all the OLBs and Austin off the board. However, I do not believe Idzik and co were lying when they said they picked 2 of their top 4 players, it's very likely that's true. Look around, Millner is considered by many the best CB in the draft and a top 5 talent and Richardson is unanimously thought of as a top 10 talent.  Not sure the latter fills a need, but everyone here wanted BPA and it seems that's what we got.  I'm not thrilled about it, but I'm not too beat up by it either.

Where did Idzik say that??


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:01 PM

we got these 2 guys and if we draft geno and oline/WR/TE im gonna be excited for the season

We need something on offense. I would enjoy seeing someone else suck behind Mangold. So I am all for Geno. Too bad he won't be there when we select again.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Not the picks I wanted, but the board broke very porly with all the OLBs and Austin off the board.

 

Jones and Star, and others... they were all there if you absolutely pigheadedly demanded to go defense. Otherwise you had Eifert, crap there was a whole bunch of ways you could have went with this and almost all of them were more exciting than Millner/Richardson.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:08 PM

We need something on offense. I would enjoy seeing someone else suck behind Mangold. So I am all for Geno. Too bad he won't be there when we select again.

 

i think he will be there at our second pick and i think nassib may go ahead of him


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:08 PM

Jones and Star, and others... they were all there if you absolutely pigheadedly demanded to go defense. Otherwise you had Eifert, crap there was a whole bunch of ways you could have went with this and almost all of them were more exciting than Millner/Richardson.

The whole night, the only pick Mayock mocked was The Milliner one. They showed clips of him dropping ball after ball at the Combine. I hope he was wrong. And the Revis comparisons already started, the second Deion interviewed him. I feel bad for him already.

 

Richardson... another DT. Great. Our offense is trash, we have no linebackers, and we have no pass rush... and we go fatboy in the middle. Plus, isn't Star suppose to to be the one thats the next supposed Ngata?


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#11 pointman

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:08 PM

i think he will be there at our second pick and i think nassib may go ahead of him

I hope so. I really do. We need an offense spark.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

I hope so. I really do. We need an offense spark.

 

think of this lol 2 new defensive players who should have both whent top 10ish so immediette starters

 

and a new QB????

 

id be so excited for the season a completly new jets team


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:11 PM

I am going to get reamed for this but... what about Manti? 


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:13 PM

I am going to get reamed for this but... what about Manti? 

 

meh we have a 2nd year player back there


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

I am curious what people think.. if Tavon Austin didn't get taken right before us... did we snag him?


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:15 PM

meh we have a 2nd year player back there

We have more needs at linebacker, than I think at DT. Ellis could be good. Our LB corp, needs help. 


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:21 PM

We have more needs at linebacker, than I think at DT. Ellis could be good. Our LB corp, needs help. 

 

wouldnt davis be playing the position teo would?


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

Jones and Star, and others... they were all there if you absolutely pigheadedly demanded to go defense. Otherwise you had Eifert, crap there was a whole bunch of ways you could have went with this and almost all of them were more exciting than Millner/Richardson.

 

A lot of people had Richardson ranked over Star, simply for his ability to penetrate the backfield and make plays downfield. Richardson did that better than any other DT in the SEC this year and I guess they felt Star wasn't dynamic enough for them.  

 

Jones is tough to say; he's going to be a hell of a player, but if richardson truly was BPA, then I can't fault them.  All I wanted was BPA, even though i wanted that to be Mingo/Austin, so if that's what happened fine, we'll see what happens the next 6 rounds.  There's still the chance to land a cornelius washington or other OLB.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

How the **** are the Jets able to consistently ignore their own ****ing needs when drafting?

 

Cornerback? Our starters are Cromartie and Wilson. We need an upgrade!

D-Line? Wilkerson, Coples, Ellis and more. We need an upgrade!

 

Tight end? Jeff Cumberland and some guy from Australia. We're set!

Running back? Mike Goodson has it covered.

Receiver? Stephen Hill is a beast!

Guard? Vlad Ducasse has that ****!

Pass Rusher? Um... don't worry!


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:28 PM

How the **** are the Jets able to consistently ignore their own ****ing needs when drafting?

 

Cornerback? Our starters are Cromartie and Wilson. We need an upgrade!

D-Line? Wilkerson, Coples, Ellis and more. We need an upgrade!

 

Tight end? Jeff Cumberland and some guy from Australia. We're set!

Running back? Mike Goodson has it covered.

Receiver? Stephen Hill is a beast!

Guard? Vlad Ducasse has that ****!

Pass Rusher? Um... don't worry!

you forgot Safety...


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

wouldnt davis be playing the position teo would?

In a 3-4, Davis is one man. Regardless, if it was a 4-3, Manti > Davis.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

In a 3-4, Davis is one man. Regardless, if it was a 4-3, Manti > Davis.

 


ehh i guess im not as high on teo as you. Would rather grab geno smith or ertz if available


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

Not the picks I wanted, but the board broke very porly with all the OLBs and Austin off the board. However, I do not believe Idzik and co were lying when they said they picked 2 of their top 4 players, it's very likely that's true. Look around, Millner is considered by many the best CB in the draft and a top 5 talent and Richardson is unanimously thought of as a top 10 talent.  Not sure the latter fills a need, but everyone here wanted BPA and it seems that's what we got.  I'm not thrilled about it, but I'm not too beat up by it either.

I believe this. I think their top 4 players were Austin, Jordan, Milliner, Richardson. The Jets problem was St. Louis working the draft rather well this evening. The Jets were 1 spot off and it looked like they tried to trade out of the 13th pick but couldnt. Who knows. I am VERY upset that we didnt add to the offense and kinda pissed that we couldnt trade down, but overall it seems like the Jets honestly took the two best players.


Lastly, people talk about Star as if Richardson is terrible. I dont like how the draft broke, but Milliner and Richardson are pretty damn good players. Its actually pretty cool that the Jets can say they simply took the best player available for once.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

How the **** are the Jets able to consistently ignore their own ****ing needs when drafting?

 

Cornerback? Our starters are Cromartie and Wilson. We need an upgrade!

D-Line? Wilkerson, Coples, Ellis and more. We need an upgrade!

 

Tight end? Jeff Cumberland and some guy from Australia. We're set!

Running back? Mike Goodson has it covered.

Receiver? Stephen Hill is a beast!

Guard? Vlad Ducasse has that ****!

Pass Rusher? Um... don't worry!

 

 

Dude, everyone here wanted them to go BPA and get value, which, if you believe them, is exactly what they did. Pass-rusher is a pointless argument considering how Ansah, Jordan and Mingo were already gone. Wide-receiver is also unfair seeing as how Austin was sniped right ahead of us, like irvin last year.  Assuming we didn't want to trade up for any of these guys, it's hard to still complain. Did you want them to reach for Werner or Patterson? Two players who fell to the bottom of the draft.  And considering Eiffert, Jones, Star and Warmack were there for both picks, it's easy enough to say that they had Richardson and Milliner ranked ahead. 

 

It's pretty obvious that Idzik was going BPA and Austin and probably Mingo/Jordan were off their board, so they pulled the trigger.  It sucks, but there's not many other places they should or could have gone.

 

And really, are you really complaining about running back, a position that wasn't even selected in the first round?? 

 

Let's just wait for the next 6 rounds to unfold and see what happens.  There are a lot of very good players available in the 2nd with us picking 7th overall.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

I believe this. I think their top 4 players were Austin, Jordan, Milliner, Richardson. The Jets problem was St. Louis working the draft rather well this evening. The Jets were 1 spot off and it looked like they tried to trade out of the 13th pick but couldnt. Who knows. I am VERY upset that we didnt add to the offense and kinda pissed that we couldnt trade down, but overall it seems like the Jets honestly took the two best players.


Lastly, people talk about Star as if Richardson is terrible. I dont like how the draft broke, but Milliner and Richardson are pretty damn good players. Its actually pretty cool that the Jets can say they simply took the best player available for once.

 

Agreed.  It broke poorly, but sh*t happens.  I wanted Mingo/Jordan and Austin, but I'm not broken up over the picks as we got two consensus top 10 players with our 9th and 13th overall picks.  Like we all know, we aren't competing next year, we might as well take BPA and hopefully that adds up to a talented team when we are ready to make the move in the next couple years. 


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