flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Good news: Safety in numbers February, 27, 2013 Feb 27 10:11 AM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com The scouting combine wrapped up Tuesday with the cornerback and safety drills. The Jets have a keen interest in safeties, considering LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell are free agents and Eric Smith was released. Good news: Scouts say it's a deep safety class, headed by Kenny Vaccaro (Texas), who could crack the top 10. The 40-yard dash results SAFETY Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse -- 4.42 Earl Wolff, North Carolina State -- 4.44 Shawn Williams, Georgia -- 4.46 Eric Reid, LSU -- 4.53 Matt Elam, Florida -- 4.54 Notables: T.J. McDonald, USC -- 4.59; Vaccaro -- 4.63 CORNERBACK Darius Slay, Mississippi State -- 4.36 Dee Milliner, Alabama -- 4.37 Desmond Trufant, Washington -- 4.38 Robert Alford, Southeast Louisiana -- 4.39 Jamar Taylor, Boise State -- 4.39 Notables: Tyrann Mathieu, LSU -- 4.50; Logan Ryan, Rutgers -- 4.56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 If Elam fell to the 2nd round, I wouldnt mind that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 it is a really deep class. Note that TJ McDonald's dad is on the Jets coaching staff. not listed are 4.6 guys like Robert Lester and Phillip Thomas, both of whom have at least backup potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Elam will be a good player, but I'm not sure I want a Saftey in the second round. Think the Jets should retain Bell, he actually played very well, and should be fairly cheap. The Jets Drafted Bush, and Allen last year. They didn't get much playing time, but what we saw of Bush at the end of the season was encouraging. Depends what the CS thinks of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 it is a really deep class. Note that TJ McDonald's dad is on the Jets coaching staff. not listed are 4.6 guys like Robert Lester and Phillip Thomas, both of whom have at least backup potential. That's very interesting. What round do you think McDonald might go in Bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Logan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 TJ McDonald in the 3rd or 4th please! Solid and deep class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That's very interesting. What round do you think McDonald might go in Bit? rd 4/5 maybe? Jonathan Cyprien at FIU was flat out awesome at the senior bowl another name to watch. and DJ Swearinger too will rise by the draft. It is as they say a really deep class. All of this hurts Landry by the way. In an FA crop with Ed Reed as the big prize and one of the deepest years draftwise at safety, it hurts a guy looking for a huge payday. If he doesn't get snatched up quickly I hope there's a way the jets can bring him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 rd 4/5 maybe? Jonathan Cyprien at FIU was flat out awesome at the senior bowl another name to watch. and DJ Swearinger too will rise by the draft. It is as they say a really deep class. All of this hurts Landry by the way. In an FA crop with Ed Reed as the big prize and one of the deepest years draftwise at safety, it hurts a guy looking for a huge payday. If he doesn't get snatched up quickly I hope there's a way the jets can bring him back. What did Cyprien run? I haven't seen any figures for him. He'll probably go too high for us. I can't see Vaccaro cracking the top 10 at that time. What round do you think the Syracuse kid will go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 rd 4/5 maybe? Jonathan Cyprien at FIU was flat out awesome at the senior bowl another name to watch. and DJ Swearinger too will rise by the draft. It is as they say a really deep class. All of this hurts Landry by the way. In an FA crop with Ed Reed as the big prize and one of the deepest years draftwise at safety, it hurts a guy looking for a huge payday. If he doesn't get snatched up quickly I hope there's a way the jets can bring him back. Thanks Last year I was sure Landry wasn't going to last thru week 4. As it turned out he had a very good season. He reportedly is looking for 5/30. I don’t think he played well enough to warrant that. As you pointed out this is a deep class, and a few pretty good FA’s. Landry still scares the hell out of me as far as long term contract is concerned. If the Jets aren’t real high on either of their young Safety’s I would rather go with another young one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 5 for 30 does not sound that bad for Laundry, I would like to know what other top safeties are making. spread it out and would not be that much for 2013. I do understand the concern but he is a hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Thanks Last year I was sure Landry wasn't going to last thru week 4. As it turned out he had a very good season. He reportedly is looking for 5/30. I don’t think he played well enough to warrant that. As you pointed out this is a deep class, and a few pretty good FA’s. Landry still scares the hell out of me as far as long term contract is concerned. If the Jets aren’t real high on either of their young Safety’s I would rather go with another young one Co-sign. No way he's worth 5/30. I love the way he hits, but he's really a one-trick donkey. Plus there will always be injury/durability issues. Re-sign Bell on the cheap and add talent/depth through the draft, or even take a sniff at FA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 5 for 30 does not sound that bad for Laundry, I would like to know what other top safeties are making. spread it out and would not be that much for 2013. I do understand the concern but he is a hell of a player. I like Landry but 5/30 is way too much. He's nice as an enforcer but he's not exactly Ed Reed in coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Are either of the safeties we took last season worth a look this season? They should bring Bell back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We all know how this story ends; we sign Landry to his $6/per, neglect the position come draft-time, and he gets injured before week-4. I wish we would draft players when the draft is strong at their position. Nope, this is the year we're going to get a QB, and a middling WR/RB/TE trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I could see Josh Bush turning into a solid DB. Kenny Phillips can be this year's Landry. Then draft TJ McDonald in the mid rounds...or someone else, I just like TJ McDonald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I could see Josh Bush turning into a solid DB. Kenny Phillips can be this year's Landry. Then draft TJ McDonald in the mid rounds...or someone else, I just like TJ McDonald. If TJ goes un-drafted, I have $5 that says he signs with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Like I said, I would like to know average salary of a safety. anyone know the franchise tag number for a safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 So the tag numbers are .. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000117300/article/franchise-tag-numbers-tentatively-set-2013-cap-near-121m These figures were distributed in early December at the annual meeting of team owners in Dallas, reports NFL.com's Ian Rapoport. They will likely be finalized in March. CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939 DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994 DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919 K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654 LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216 OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560 QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845 RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851 S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899 TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105 WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716 I can see why he would want 6 mil per and it does not seem unreasonable to me. I think he is a top five safety in the league. Now I also think he can be signed for 5 mil per is he is asking for 6. The cap is going up in 2015 when the new TV deals are done. 2 mil base per year 1 mil roster bonus for 2014, 15, 16, 17 10 mil signing bonus 1 mil in other bonus or incentives. If I am correct makes his cap number this year 4 mil, every other year it would be 5.25 mil just does not sound that unreasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 So the tag numbers are .. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000117300/article/franchise-tag-numbers-tentatively-set-2013-cap-near-121m These figures were distributed in early December at the annual meeting of team owners in Dallas, reports NFL.com's Ian Rapoport. They will likely be finalized in March. CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939 DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994 DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919 K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654 LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216 OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560 QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845 RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851 S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899 TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105 WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716 I can see why he would want 6 mil per and it does not seem unreasonable to me. I think he is a top five safety in the league. Now I also think he can be signed for 5 mil per is he is asking for 6. The cap is going up in 2015 when the new TV deals are done. 2 mil base per year 1 mil roster bonus for 2014, 15, 16, 17 10 mil signing bonus 1 mil in other bonus or incentives. If I am correct makes his cap number this year 4 mil, every other year it would be 5.25 mil just does not sound that unreasonable to me. Unless he's on IR week two that is Guys risk factor is just to high for a team in the Jets situation right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Unless he's on IR week two that is Guys risk factor is just to high for a team in the Jets situation right now Maybe, maybe not. All I know is the guy was all over the field last season and by far the most exciting player on the team IMO. I'd love to resign him and give us some flexibility in the draft. So many holes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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