Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If there really is/was a culture of bullying in the locker room then he has justification for it. From the comments of the Dolphins players who have spoken about it, either they were completely unaware it was happening OR they turned a blind eye to it. If it was the latter then that's a cultural thing that the coaches/"leadership council" needed to get a handle on a while ago. A blind eye to what? I don't even know what you're referring to? Someone physically assaulted Martin? Just went up to a 300 lb man and kicked the sh*t out of him? You're getting upset about an NFL locker room being an NFL locker room. If this Martin case is actually heard- the NFL is going to have to go into every locker room. The whole thing is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I'm on your side, people like Martin lie You guys hang out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You guys hang out? I wouldn't hang out with somebody like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I wouldn't hang out with somebody like him Apply normal social standards to an NFL locker room brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Why are you looking at this story through soccer mom lenses? I think I see the problem here. My point about Cornwell was an example of inductive reasoning. Fair warning: I attended every session of that class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 A blind eye to what? I don't even know what you're referring to? Someone physically assaulted Martin? Just went up to a 300 lb man and kicked the sh*t out of him? You're getting upset about an NFL locker room being an NFL locker room. If this Martin case is actually heard- the NFL is going to have to go into every locker room. The whole thing is comical. Last year we found out an NFL coach was telling every player in his locker room, explicitly, to concuss Frank Gore and take out Michael Crabtree's ACL. This isn't the military. If the NFL is going to pretend they care about player safety, then yes, every NFL locker room will need to change it's ways. You have NFL players committing suicide due to brain trauma left and right. Concussions aren't the only means by which players' suffer damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I think I see the problem here. My point about Cornwell was an example of inductive reasoning. Fair warning: I attended every session of that class. Yet you still refuse to acknowledge context exists.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You have NFL players committing suicide due to brain trauma left and right. Concussions aren't the only means by which players' suffer damage. How is this relevant to the locker room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yet you still refuse to acknowledge context exists.... #ShouldaGottenAFluShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 #ShouldaGottenAFluShot No idea what this means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 How is this relevant to the locker room? Because at least one player suffered an emotional breakdown by the direct result of locker room behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Because at least one player suffered an emotional breakdown by the direct result of locker room behavior. link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Wait...was Context 101 the class I sicked out of, or the one I slept through? Yeesh. It's kind of a wonder I ever earned that Ph.D. in White Guilt from Humorless PC Fascism A&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 link? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24199408/david-cornwell-alleges-more-verbal-abuse-of-jonathan-martin http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2013/11/07/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-david-cornwell/3469867/ http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9936309/jonathan-martin-checked-hospital-leaving-miami-dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Wait...was Context 101 the class I sicked out of, or the one I slept through? Yeesh. It's kind of a wonder I ever earned that Ph.D. in White Guilt from Humorless PC Fascism A&M. Im like Ray Kelly at Brown baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24199408/david-cornwell-alleges-more-verbal-abuse-of-jonathan-martin http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2013/11/07/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-david-cornwell/3469867/ http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9936309/jonathan-martin-checked-hospital-leaving-miami-dolphins Unless you have a picture of Martin in a straight jacket these links mean nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Unless you have a picture of Martin in a straight jacket these links mean nada. Oh, so reports that he checked into a hospital mean nothing? Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oh, so reports that he checked into a hospital mean nothing? Got it. People check themselves into hospitals for paper cuts. His parents retrieved him hours after he allegedly checked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 People check themselves into hospitals for paper cuts. His parents retrieved him hours after he allegedly checked in. Just because you can come up with 1,000 alternative hypotheses doesn't mean any of them are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just because you can come up with 1,000 alternative hypotheses doesn't mean any of them are correct. Yet it makes yours correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Apply normal social standards to an NFL locker room brah. Golf courses and locker rooms, laws don't apply. I got ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Golf courses and locker rooms laws don't apply, got ya I agree. Every NFL locker room needs an ACLU rep on hand at all times. These football players are too mean. We need to all become more progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I will not rest until every white person in America is in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I will not rest until every white person in America is in prison. I will not rest until Incognito gets the electric chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 you could be telling us what Jesus really looked like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I agree. Every NFL locker room needs an ACLU rep on hand at all times. These football players are too mean. We need to all become more progressive. You're good with golf course then? People like her don't belong on a nice course like that anyway. She was just another one looking to make a quick buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You're good with golf course then? People like her don't belong on a nice course like that anyway. She was just another one looking to make a quick buck. Reference stories that are over a year old that magically surface as evidence when something happens breh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Reference stories that are over a year old that magically surface as evidence when something happens breh. I'm just out trying to take down the white man like everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Yet it makes yours correct? I have no hypotheses. I'm going off what has been reported. Your conspiracy theories have been amusing but I imagine the truth is far simpler. People don't just "fake" emotional breakdowns. If you want to argue he's weak-minded, a lot of people have done so. But no one just quits their jobs, check into a hospital, and start building a lawsuit out of nothing. If it was purely about money he stood to make a lot more playing out his career than he did winning a lawsuit. Seems pretty clear he's a troubled person, one way or the other. And it's a very real situation for him, whether you think it should be or not, and whether you want to excuse Incognito or the lockerroom or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have no hypotheses. I'm going off what has been reported. Your conspiracy theories have been amusing but I imagine the truth is far simpler. People don't just "fake" emotional breakdowns. If you want to argue he's weak-minded, a lot of people have done so. But no one just quits their jobs, check into a hospital, and start building a lawsuit out of nothing. If it was purely about money he stood to make a lot more playing out his career than he did winning a lawsuit. Seems pretty clear he's a troubled person, one way or the other. And it's a very real situation for him, whether you think it should be or not, and whether you want to excuse Incognito or the lockerroom or not. Do me a favor and google MTA disability fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Do me a favor and google MTA disability fraud. Oh, so that's what's happening here. Yeah, that's far more likely. You're 100 % right. Take off the tinfoil hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oh, so that's what's happening here. Yeah, that's far more likely. You're 100 % right. Take off the tinfoil hat. You haven't proven it's not the case. Phony lawsuits never happen in this country you're right. People never fake sickness or disability to collect a check. What was I thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Unless you have a picture of Martin in a straight jacket these links mean nada. Emotional and mental issues equal straightjacket. No problems with that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You guys remember when those people did that thing one time? #QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You haven't proven it's not the case. Phony lawsuits never happen in this country you're right. People never fake sickness or disability to collect a check. What was I thinking. Oh, so you make one outlandish theory after another and it's on me to prove you wrong? Just because phony lawsuits happen doesn't mean it's the case here. Based on the evidence at hand, it's far more likely he's telling the truth. People make up phony lawsuits to make money. Martin doesn't need lawsuit money. He comes from a rich family. We know for sure that players on the team were verbally abusing him. Yet because your method of dealing with this is different than what Martin did, you assume it can't be the case that he ACTUALLY is suffering psychological damage. Far more people have mental health issues in this country than there are people who make up lawsuits to get money or attention. Also, a lot of people out there make up conspiracy theories when they don't understand something. That happens time and time again when stories come out that are out of the norm. Based on what we know, none of the ideas you've come up make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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