Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Any mock where Matthews is taken 1st and Bridgewater falls to 8th makes no sense at all, IMO. Franchise QB's grow on trees, didn't you know? Gotta get that LT to protect him when he falls off the branch next time you have the overall first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 i think this mock fails right away with the first pick Blue chip Left Tackles last 10-12 years and are a premium position. A LOT more #1 busts at QB than LT. I personally think they trade out of #1 to #4-6 and still take the LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Now you know how the rest of the board feels, jerk. People only find me condescending because they're lesser entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 WOW, how did you know? I actually WAS going to include COPLES in the package, rather than Wilkerson which was suggested in another thread. They are so D-lineman rich, that they certainly can afford to give one up, and Coples in reality has lost his position in this offense, as he is just not suited to be standing up. Great guess on Coples. Do like minds think the same? because you dont want to be associated with me on this board. LOL Budweiser/ domestic.... Heinekin/ import. We are nothing alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Interestingly we did use to get more people doing the "poster by team" mocks and they use to go much more smoothly back in the day. On JI Ham use to actually put together a really good one every year. Seemed like a more committed with a lesser number, group. Both here and there. So is it better to say, everyone talks about it now but less people put in an effort? Like everything in America, instant gratification, more watered down. It's cool everyone is into it though. I guess. *///hipster talk My opinion is that draft talk used to be more of a niche thing whereas now it's blown up into an entire industry. It's not as fun to put the effort into something when it's so readily spoon-fed to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 if the draft falls like that, trade down if possible, if not take ASJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Budweiser/ domestic.... Heinekin/ import. We are nothing alike. Good beer choices but NOT Rocky Mountain refreshment. I do drink both of the lights however, and like them both: Bud Lite and Hiny Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Blue chip Left Tackles last 10-12 years and are a premium position. A LOT more #1 busts at QB than LT. I personally think they trade out of #1 to #4-6 and still take the LT Duane Brown is good. Are you sure that there are more busts at QB's taken first overall than tackles. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would think the QB's would stand out more in people's memories and maybe the perception would override the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 That's nice of you. Thank you. I'm working on a Round Two. I think it makes more sense to wait for the combine. Too much work goes into it all to have it all flipped upside down in a month anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 My opinion is that draft talk used to be more of a niche thing whereas now it's blown up into an entire industry. It's not as fun to put the effort into something when it's so readily spoon-fed to you. I can respect that. I hear ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I think it makes more sense to wait for the combine. Too much work goes into it all to have it all flipped upside down in a month anyway. It keeps me from drinking and whoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Blue chip Left Tackles last 10-12 years and are a premium position. A LOT more #1 busts at QB than LT. I personally think they trade out of #1 to #4-6 and still take the LT Of course there are alot more busts at QB. Since 1936 there have only been four tackles taken at number one. Thirty one quarterbacks. If your choice is Case Keenum, T.J. Yates or a retread free agent and a rookie LT or a guy that can be your franchise QB and Duane Brown, it really is no choice, in my opinion. Also, if you are a GM and you pass on a QB that becomes the franchise guy for someone else, you had better make the playoffs every year because you're going to find if very hard to get another job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It keeps me from drinking and whoring. Mock Drafts. What's your anti-drug!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Mock Drafts. What's your anti-drug!? LOL! I was kidding. I was working on that mock draft while drinking and whoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It keeps me from drinking and whoring. Mock drafts are like STD's, everybody has one nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Mock drafts are like STD's, everybody has one nowadays. I just had blood work done--no lie--I've got NOTHING. My penis is antiseptic. God is something else, I tellya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Duane Brown is good. Are you sure that there are more busts at QB's taken first overall than tackles. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I would think the QB's would stand out more in people's memories and maybe the perception would override the facts. Tony Mandarich? was he #1 overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just had blood work done--no lie--I've got NOTHING. My penis is antiseptic. God is something else, I tellya Look forward to rounds 2 thru 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Tony Mandarich? was he #1 overall? Nope, number two. Aikman one. Perfect example. Swap those picks and imagine. Even if Mandarich fulfilled the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Nope, number two. Aikman one. Perfect example. Swap those picks and imagine. Even if Mandarich fulfilled the hype. Dude injected steroids like a 3 pack a day smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Of course there are alot more busts at QB. Since 1936 there have only been four tackles taken at number one. Thirty one quarterbacks. If your choice is Case Keenum, T.J. Yates or a retread free agent and a rookie LT or a guy that can be your franchise QB and Duane Brown, it really is no choice, in my opinion. Also, if you are a GM and you pass on a QB that becomes the franchise guy for someone else, you had better make the playoffs every year because you're going to find if very hard to get another job. Is there a can't miss Luck, Peyton in this draft? I don't think so. I'm just saying unless there is a can't miss.... I'd probably like to trade out of #1 if I were a GM. Most GM's go safe pick these days... they are weighed so heavily on their draft proficiency .(MT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Mock Drafts. What's your anti-drug!? Bringing up anything to do with that "sport", should be a federal offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Is there a can't miss Luck, Peyton in this draft? I don't think so. I'm just saying unless there is a can't miss.... I'd probably like to trade out of #1 if I were a GM. Most GM's go safe pick these days... they are weighed so heavily on their draft proficiency .(MT) I know we are talking QB's here but isnt Clowney a cant miss based on his freakish skills and worthy of #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Bringing up anything to do with that "sport", should be a federal offense. I just dug the 90's themed commercial reference. Truth be told though, I'm Eastern European, it's not really my fault for any soccer references. Raised in the states however, so football, basketball, baseball and hockey are my primaries. However, if you ever leave the country and have a chance to get to see a soccer game, do it, it's a hell of an experience. The girls are gorgeous, the fans drink their faces off and are even more rowdy and passionate about their teams than some of the most ardent football fans, it's nutty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 I know we are talking QB's here but isnt Clowney a cant miss based on his freakish skills and worthy of #1? Only thing that worries me about Clowney, is what's in his head. But yes, he would be worthy of a #1 IMO (whatever that's worth). Based on shear talent, Manziel is worth it also.... but again, will his game translate to the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just had blood work done--no lie--I've got NOTHING. My penis is antiseptic. God is something else, I tellya You know how I know you're a 50 year old virgin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Tom thanks for the mock- people that do this take the time and effort and then people randomly pick them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 if the draft falls like that, trade down if possible, if not take ASJ If you can get him mid to late 20's and an extra 3rd. I'd sign up for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 the Jets need a LB anyway , he there at 18 take him, ,he is a top 10 pick on most board , if the are no good WR or TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I know the board would probably explode, but Mack at 18 would be very good value. If he played at Florida, Auburn or Michigan and not Buffalo, his name would be pretty much on par with Barr and Clowney (to an extent). It addresses a position of great need with a fantastic player and would finally give us someone to get to the QB without having to scheme. I'd like it even more provided we address WR in free agency, which I think we'll do. Mack would be a very good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Tom thanks for the mock- people that do this take the time and effort and then people randomly pick them apart. Thanks, Frank. People nibble at me like remoras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I know the board would probably explode, but Mack at 18 would be very good value. If he played at Florida, Auburn or Michigan and not Buffalo, his name would be pretty much on par with Barr and Clowney (to an extent). It addresses a position of great need with a fantastic player and would finally give us someone to get to the QB without having to scheme. I'd like it even more provided we address WR in free agency, which I think we'll do. Mack would be a very good pick. He would indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 You know how I know you're a 50 year old virgin? Quality poon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewillie78 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just dug the 90's themed commercial reference. Truth be told though, I'm Eastern European, it's not really my fault for any soccer references. Raised in the states however, so football, basketball, baseball and hockey are my primaries. However, if you ever leave the country and have a chance to get to see a soccer game, do it, it's a hell of an experience. The girls are gorgeous, the fans drink their faces off and are even more rowdy and passionate about their teams than some of the most ardent football fans, it's nutty. I'm sure your right, and I'm sure the view we get is a bit skewed. You know, the SET YOUR STADIUM on fire view, the KILL or MAME your enemy view, the START a RIOT view, the I am DEATHLY INJURED, WRITHE all over the stadium view, when hardly touched etc., and here in the states with crazy "SOCCER moms and dads" My buddy refers to soccer as the WOOSIFICATION of american youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I just had blood work done--no lie--I've got NOTHING. My penis is antiseptic. God is something else, I tellya You need to have sex to get STDs, fyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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