T0mShane Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You know what TS, the fish rots from the head down. Only reason Rex and Rob are still in the NFL, is because of Buddy. Between the 3 of them, they'd be lucky to have an IQ of 100. Funny that Woody ignored Ozzie and still hired Rex as HC. Same 'Ole Jets. True. I think once a coach gets to the coordinator level and has an iota of success, they stick around for decades. Hell, Brian Schottenheimer still has a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the funny thing ... Kelly has yet to win a playoff game and ya'll are acting like he's some kind of God... We've said for a while we want a known quantity this time, a guy HC experience, not an "up and comer". If Chip ends up on the market, only he and Marrone fit the bill unless you're looking for a pipe dream like Cowher. There's no HC out there that's won something who is coming available anytime soon. Chip has shown he has the foundational skills that suggest he MIGHT win something down the road. No one is saying Chip is the next Vince Lombardi. Only that he's had some success early on in his career and that we have a decent idea of what we'd be getting out of him. If he comes available we'd be absolute morons to not throw everything we can at trying to get him. To me that would be preferable to a candidate like Quinn or Bowles, two defense guys with no HC experience. I.E. same old same old in Jet-land. We need someone who can help turn the program around, not learn on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedAwesome Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm pretty sure Belichick and Chip Kelly are bros so I doubt Chip will come into Belichick's division. Plus rumors were swirling a year ago that Chip Kelly's dream job is to eventually replace Belichick as the Patriots HC when the day comes the Hoodie hangs it up. http://nesn.com/2013/01/chip-kelly-waiting-to-take-over-as-head-coach-of-patriots-according-to-oregonian-writer/ Just can't see the Jets ever getting Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 but it is your fault he made Idzik the GM, which might be the only option worse the Rex No no no. My plan was to fire Rex in 2012, then hire Parcells to come back and clean up the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We've said for a while we want a known quantity this time, a guy HC experience, not an "up and comer". If Chip ends up on the market, only he and Marrone fit the bill unless you're looking for a pipe dream like Cowher. Chip isn't on the market. Lurie caved and made him the GM and moved Roseman to VP Ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We've said for a while we want a known quantity this time, a guy HC experience, not an "up and comer". If Chip ends up on the market, only he and Marrone fit the bill unless you're looking for a pipe dream like Cowher. like I said.. would love Kelly here... but his track record is worse the Rex's... had Rex let a talent like Desean go for zip T0mShane would've sh*t out his spleen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Makes you wonder why Brady had such a tough time scoring?? Savage, let me make this simple: The only object in the NFL is to score more points than your opponent. Brady and the Pats accomplished that 7 out of the last 8 times they played the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 the funny thing ... Kelly has yet to win a playoff game and ya'll are acting like he's some kind of God... I'd prefer him to Rex, I like offense, but Shane has achieved his goal of dumbing down the board Sadly, I have to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 No no no. My plan was to fire Rex in 2012, then hire Parcells to come back and clean up the franchise. interestingly enough that's when I wanted Rex fired as well ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Chip isn't on the market. Lurie caved and made him the GM and moved Roseman to VP Ops. When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Sadly, I have to agree with you. My intellect is the air that you people breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Chip isn't on the market. Lurie caved and made him the GM and moved Roseman to VP Ops. wow good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My intellect is the air that you people breathe. no wonder it smells like Crusher farts in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 When? Jeff McLane: Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive VP of Football Operations. Kelly will now oversee the player personnel department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 no wonder it smells like Crusher farts in here The wind beneath your greasy little wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 like I said.. would love Kelly here... but his track record is worse the Rex's... How? He took over a 3-13 team and has gone 20-12. Too small a sample size to claim that either way. Not that it matters if Shane is right about him getting more power in Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jeff McLane: Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive VP of Football Operations. Kelly will now oversee the player personnel department. Now it's time to move on to Brian Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jeff McLane: Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive VP of Football Operations. Kelly will now oversee the player personnel department. Nice pseudo-promotion for Roseman. Weird stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Chip isn't on the market. Lurie caved and made him the GM and moved Roseman to VP Ops. Where are you getting this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jeff McLane: Roseman will be elevated to the role of Executive VP of Football Operations. Kelly will now oversee the player personnel department. bizzare... he neutered kelly by firing gamble then does this ... know people in that org ... can't wait to find out what the deal is .. I guess Laurie caved when Kelly had a temper tantrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 like I said.. would love Kelly here... but his track record is worse the Rex's... had Rex let a talent like Desean go for zip T0mShane would've sh*t out his spleen Did you just compare a failed, dinosaur HC to a progressive 2015 HC in the NF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Now it's time to move on to Brian Kelly. I'm predicting Marrone and Maccagnan announced one week from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 My intellect is the air that you people breathe. I know for sure that inside your little heart, you still believe in Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 bizzare... he neutered kelly by firing gamble then does this ... know people in that org ... can't wait to find out what the deal is .. I guess Laurie caved when Kelly had a temper tantrum Had an interesting debate with a coworker today. Is it harder to find a coach or a GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I know for sure that inside your little heart, you still believe in Idzik. 1. I'm dead inside. 2. I would have liked to see what Idzik had planned for this offseason. IMO, he would have had Quinn or Bevell signed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Had an interesting debate with a coworker today. Is it harder to find a coach or a GM? Probably equally difficult. At any given time it seems that there is an equal number of quality coaches as there are GM's. And that probably has something to do with quality GM's knowing which HC's to hire and/or keep around. Also has something to do with an owner being solid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 How? He took over a 3-13 team and has gone 20-12. Too small a sample size to claim that either way. Not that it matters if Shane is right about him getting more power in Philly. Don't be dense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Nice pseudo-promotion for Roseman. Weird stuff. Roseman got a fat raise to do no work with, I'm sure, no responsibility for the outcome. Nice gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 How? He took over a 3-13 team and has gone 20-12. Too small a sample size to claim that either way. Not that it matters if Shane is right about him getting more power in Philly. But the guy he replaced took over a 2-14 team and also has gone 20-12, NO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Probably equally difficult. At any given time it seems that there is an equal number of quality coaches as there are GM's. And that probably has something to do with quality GM's knowing which HC's to hire and/or keep around. Yeah, that's what I argued. The GM has to be great in the HR role first and foremost, but the head coach has more immediate impact. Both jobs suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 But the guy he replaced took over a 2-14 team and also has gone 20-12, NO? True. I don't think anyone can make the argument that Andy Reid is a bad HC. His time in Philly simply ran its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Had an interesting debate with a coworker today. Is it harder to find a coach or a GM? harder to find a Qb But I'd say GM... I honestly believe at this level the delta between a good coach and a bad one isn't as big as we might think .. there are exceptions of course, but generally... talent wins and I'd put a premium on finding it particularly within the construct of a cap also good GM will find a good coach eventually .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Roseman got a fat raise to do no work with, I'm sure, no responsibility for the outcome. Nice gig. first step to out the door if Kelly succeeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Wouldn't the San Fran job be Kelly's likelier landing spot? There is no way in hell that the 49ers are letting Rex leave without a 10 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 True. I don't think anyone can make the argument that Andy Reid is a bad HC. His time in Philly simply ran its course. Rex ran its course here too, thanks to Idzik, the evil, wicked, malicious, malignant, cunning, sob. In his mind he thought he was getting rid of Rex after the 2013 season as everybody predicted a two win season, at best. Rex won eight games in spite of the POS who gave him a few piece on defense and nothing on offense. 2014 season was Idzik's revenge when he forced Rex to play a six round safety and a career back up at CB while saving Woody 25 Million. It was as if nobody knew his intentions of getting rid of Rex. It backfired on his azz. BTW, CHEERS for the guys behind the fireidzik.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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