batman10023 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Per Kirwin jets should offer fitzy 4 yrs $68M with $18M guaranteed i'd pass on that... just 6 weeks ago we were considering dumping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 i'd pass on that... just 6 weeks ago we were considering dumping him. Who is "we"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 foles got 2 yrs $24M, per kirwin he will get much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Who is "we"? the collective GM's on JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 the collective GM's on JN. Good thing the actual, professional GMs done make knee jerk decisions based on "feelings" and the volume of crying on message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I like Fitz but I don't want the Jets to commit too many years to him. Basically as long as we can cut him after next year without it killing our cap then I'm completely fine w/ any deal. He's done well so far but we played a weak schedule and his track record is one of mediocrity. Plus he "plays risky" by running head first rather than sliding. I can easily see him getting injured at any time. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him get hurt at Buffalo and leave the game in Geno's hands. Sadly, I could imagine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I like Fitz but I don't want the Jets to commit too many years to him. Basically as long as we can cut him after next year without it killing our cap then I'm completely fine w/ any deal. He's done well so far but we played a weak schedule and his track record is one of mediocrity. Plus he "plays risky" by running head first rather than sliding. I can easily see him getting injured at any time. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him get hurt at Buffalo and leave the game in Geno's hands. Sadly, I could imagine that. Fitz might get injured running, Geno might get injured mouthing off to a 250 pound muscle beast over $600. "Next time I come for you, I'm gonna want some cocktail... FRUIT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Fitz might get injured running, Geno might get injured mouthing off to a 250 pound muscle beast over $600. Actually both are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Good thing the actual, professional GMs done make knee jerk decisions based on "feelings" and the volume of crying on message boards. what about flying banners? it worked on our owner. (who i like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 foles got 2 yrs $24M, per kirwin he will get much more i haven't followed foles career much - how has that contract worked out so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 what about flying banners? it worked on our owner. (who i like) Yeah see if you can influence a sit/start decision with a banner campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 foles got 2 yrs $24M, per kirwin he will get much more 13.7 is guaranteed plus Foles is 26.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Fitz is a great fit for this Jets team...plays with a unique combination of gutsiness and headiness , and he is not forcing the ball or having to carry teams like he has had to in the past. He has advanced tremendously as a QB, while developing great chemistry with his talented receivers.. His teammates respect the hell out of him, and he is showing that he can play well late in games and win the close ones. He has brought a sense of stability and excitement to a team starving for a leader behind center. Sure as heck hope he sticks around for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 First off, a nod to Gailey for calling the best game I have seen in a long time by a Jets OC. There were few if any head scratchers and even the plays that didn't work, should have worked. Playing the role of Captain Obvious here, but a big consideration in the negotiations with Fitz needs to be Chan's long term plans. Having Fitz under contract for big $$$ without Chan, or at least an heir apparent who would run the same quick strike spread system, could turn ugly. In Ftiz's journey around the league, he has struggled to prosper in other systems. Matching the length of his contract to Chan's planned tenure would be a prudent move by the front office. The Jets current QBs coach was with Gailey in Buffalo and has been a quality control coach and a WRs coach with Gailey at other stops. It's my opinion that he's being groomed by Gailey to be his replacement as OC . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The Jets are one of the oldest teams in the league. To stumble on a QB who can keep the Jets competitive for the next 2-3 years is an absolute miracle. But what Fitzpatrick and his agent need to understand is that although Fitz is having a good season now, it is in large part do to his reprise with Chan Gailey and having Marshall and Decker to throw to. Unfortunately for the Jets, they have an enormous number of free agents after this season. They will have to be very nimble in how they manage their cap and sign the players that they need to sign. This is where the weak drafts of Idzik/Late-Tannebaum era will come to roost. The Jets veterans in particular should realize that this could be the last shot at the playoffs for awhile. if the Jets make the playoffs, they could go far. You have several players on the wrong side of 30 who are not getting better. It will be very hard to sign new free agents. It will be hard to sign all of the free agents currently on the team that we will want to keep-Harrison, Wilkerson, Ivory, Powell, and of course Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick should take a deal that is longer, with more guaranteed money, but of less money per year. Hopefully 10 or less. In order for him to be good, he needs a good cast-he is not Brady doing it on his own. I can see them signing Harrison, letting Wilkerson walk, cutting Cromarie, and hopefully restructuring the three linemen over 30. The Jets need to find $5mm+ of cap room on the OL. I would also keep Geno Smith for next year. He has been practicing in the system, and Fitz has an injury history. in 2017, its hopefully Fitz, Petty and someone new. The draft is absolutely critical for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Per Kirwin jets should offer fitzy 4 yrs $68M with $18M guaranteed as much as i like fitz and want him back for the next coupla years, 17m a year is absurd. if he wins the super bowl this year, 17m is still absurd. i would rather franchise tag him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 You can add Marshall to that deal as well... him & Fitz have a connection that I don't want to see broken. Marshall has a multi year deal already if im correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 To be fair when that beard gets long he looks like he just woke up after falling asleep behind a moonshine still. sh*tfire boy put a pinch between your cheek and gum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 as much as i like fitz and want him back for the next coupla years, 17m a year is absurd. if he wins the super bowl this year, 17m is still absurd. i would rather franchise tag him what would you think is something he should accept? 2 and 20 seems reasonable with say 2/3 guaranteed. which team is going to pay him a boatload of money? you sign him for 17mm a year and he bombs that is a career ender for a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 what would you think is something he should accept? 2 and 20 seems reasonable with say 2/3 guaranteed. which team is going to pay him a boatload of money? you sign him for 17mm a year and he bombs that is a career ender for a GM. ya, more of the line that i was thinking 10-12 per. 2-3 years. but i guess in the end, all that reallly counts is the guaranteed $$.. fitz proved alot of people wrong this year. just dont think he proved them 17m per wrong.. fitz definetely deserves to earn starter money. just not elite starter money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 ya, more of the line that i was thinking 10-12 per. 2-3 years. but i guess in the end, all that reallly counts is the guaranteed $$.. fitz proved alot of people wrong this year. just dont think he proved them 17m per wrong.. fitz definetely deserves to earn starter money. just not elite starter money $14-$15M a yr is not elite starter money, it is middle of the road nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 13.7 is guaranteed plus Foles is 26.. Foles being 26 is irrelevant, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 $14-$15M a yr is not elite starter money, it is middle of the road nowadays. 17m is close to elite money, tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Not for above average starter money, Heh I thought his agent would ask for 4 yrs $48M, kirwin is much closer to the real world than I will ever be, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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