UnitedWhofans Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/869261-10-quarterbacks-that-were-one-hit-wonders Is Mark Rypien on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is Mark Rypien on that list Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes Yeah, his 1991 season was remarkable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/869261-10-quarterbacks-that-were-one-hit-wonders Fitz played pretty much as he has recently. Not one year. It is tough for you apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Can anyone answer who had really good years at 33 and fell off the next season? That was his point, the odds are that Fitz will fall off. I say the odds don't come close to saying that. The QB that comes to my mind is jake del homme, he took them to the SB played great then turned into an INT machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Fitz played pretty much as he has recently. Not one year. /> And that's the problem. An 11-year journeyman, JAG QB with severe limitations who has never played in a playoff game. Why do you continue to make him out to be something he isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Fitz played pretty much as he has recently. Not one year. It is tough for you apparently. And that's the problem. An 11-year journeyman, JAG QB with severe limitations who has never played in a playoff game. Why do you continue to make him out to be something he isn't? Just put your money where your mouths are...30+Tds and under 15 INTs as long as Fitzy plays a full season, injury cancels bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I say Fitzy can do it again for a few more years, he played with alot of poise iin pressure situations and knew when to tuck it away and run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/869261-10-quarterbacks-that-were-one-hit-wonders There you go Jet Nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just put your money where your mouths are...30+Tds and under 15 INTs as long as Fitzy plays a full season, injury cancels bet I still owe Max for our last bet. OK, 30 TD's and under 15 INT's playing a full 16 game season. I'm good with that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I still owe Max for our last bet.. What the hell u waitin for...Lets go, pay up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I still owe Max for our last bet. OK, 30 TD's and under 15 INT's playing a full 16 game season. I'm good with that bet. You always said you never bet Tex how did Max rope you in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I still owe Max for our last bet. OK, 30 TD's and under 15 INT's playing a full 16 game season. I'm good with that bet. @jetnut, u good with this bet? If u dont want it I'll take on Tex and let it ride for next year, double or nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You always said you never bet Tex how did Max rope you in?? I roped him in, we bet the Pats Broncos game in Nov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 What the hell u waitin for...Lets go, pay up... Where is the PayPal button or a link to give a donation to the site? I don't want my donation to subsidize Crusher's buffet fetish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 You always said you never bet Tex how did Max rope you in?? Savage, I don't bet on NFL games. These bets are OK, especially when the board benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Where is the PayPal button or a link to give a donation to the site? I don't want my donation to subsidize Crusher's buffet fetish. I dont know...but if jetnut doesnt want the bet we'll do a double or nothin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 None of this total nonsense proves that he wouldn't have done well if those teams had higher ranked defenses. I don't even know who those 8 were and whether they were his good games or not. And the differenc between the 25 and 15th ranked defense is almost negligible. He played just as he did in Houston. You're full of shlt if you think this indicates anything Unfortunately, it means quite a lot. The Jets had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this season. To Fitzpatrick's credit, he did well against poor competition rather than playing down to it as we've seen all too often as Jet fans, but next season he will face much stiffer opposition, and probably in much stiffer weather. The stars aligned for the man this year, but he still couldn't get over the playoff hump. Everybody likes Fitz. The coaches like him, the players like him. Hell, I like him! But going all in with the guy would be a mistake. You can't overpay him, and you have to have a QB on the roster you're ready to turn to if Fitz isn't getting the job done during the season next year. Best case scenario is Petty being that guy. Whether it's him, a high draft pick, another journeyman, or Geno Smith himself, they need to have a QB they're willing to start if Fitz falters. Tougher competition and worse weather are practically givens. I'm not worried about Fitz' age so much as I am about Brick's - who looks about ready to fall off a cliff. Jets enjoyed great health in general, too, this year. Really sucks that they weren't playing last night, things couldn't've broken any better for them this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I roped him in, we bet the Pats Broncos game in Nov Way to go Cowboy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Way to go Cowboy.. Yeeeeee Haaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Unfortunately, it means quite a lot. The Jets had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this season. To Fitzpatrick's credit, he did well against poor competition rather than playing down to it as we've seen all too often as Jet fans, but next season he will face much stiffer opposition, and probably in much stiffer weather. The stars aligned for the man this year, but he still couldn't get over the playoff hump. Everybody likes Fitz. The coaches like him, the players like him. Hell, I like him! But going all in with the guy would be a mistake. You can't overpay him, and you have to have a QB on the roster you're ready to turn to if Fitz isn't getting the job done during the season next year. Best case scenario is Petty being that guy. Whether it's him, a high draft pick, another journeyman, or Geno Smith himself, they need to have a QB they're willing to start if Fitz falters. Tougher competition and worse weather are practically givens. I'm not worried about Fitz' age so much as I am about Brick's - who looks about ready to fall off a cliff. Jets enjoyed great health in general, too, this year. Really sucks that they weren't playing last night, things couldn't've broken any better for them this season. Again, that the opposite was weak or that 8 opponents were weak defensively doesn't mean he can't play the same next season. Who are the weak defensive teams? One has to be the Bills. We lost both and he played badly in both. So we're down to fewer opponents that were weak and the two games we've eliminated didn't pad his stats in any way. That's part of my point. That they were weak also doesn't say he couldn't play well against them if they were better than their numbers. There's a whole lot of assuming going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I dont know...but if jetnut doesnt want the bet we'll do a double or nothin Nah, let me pay up for our first bet and we'll do this one for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Again, that the opposite was weak or that 8 opponents were weak defensively doesn't mean he can't play the same next season. Who are the weak defensive teams? One has to be the Bills. We lost both and he played badly in both. So we're down to fewer opponents that were weak and the two games we've eliminated didn't pad his stats in any way. That's part of my point. That they were weak also doesn't say he couldn't play well against them if they were better than their numbers. There's a whole lot of assuming going on. Yes, mostly on your part. Lol. Fitz enjoyed an extremely easy schedule, ridiculously mild weather, and a remarkably healthy team this year. Everything was in his favor in ways that are almost certainly not to be duplicated next year. Assuming that he'll do as well or better next season is a dangerous assumption. I want Fitz back, but I want them to have the plan in place to move on from him as soon as it's apparent that that's what they need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yes, mostly on your part. Lol. Fitz enjoyed an extremely easy schedule, ridiculously mild weather, and a remarkably healthy team this year. Everything was in his favor in ways that are almost certainly not to be duplicated next year. Assuming that he'll do as well or better next season is a dangerous assumption. I want Fitz back, but I want them to have the plan in place to move on from him as soon as it's apparent that that's what they need to do. you're going way out of your way to give reasons why Fitz wasn't as good as he was. To me, you're the one making assumptions, I'm going by his production. You're going by what you think it was helped by, what it would have been like with a different schedule. None of my thinking leads me to say he's the end all and stops me from thinking finding our next QB isn't a high priority. Fitz is perfect as our bridge QB. Someone to get us to his eventual replacement. That include next season if an experienced QB becomes available that fits our system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 you're going way out of your way to give reasons why Fitz wasn't as good as he was. To me, you're the one making assumptions, I'm going by his production. You're going by what you think it was helped by, what it would have been like with a different schedule. None of my thinking leads me to say he's the end all and stops me from thinking finding our next QB isn't a high priority. Fitz is perfect as our bridge QB. Someone to get us to his eventual replacement. That include next season if an experienced QB becomes available that fits our system Jets have a lot of needs this offseason. Paying Fitz and a veteran capable of starting probably isn't in their plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Jets have a lot of needs this offseason. Paying Fitz and a veteran capable of starting probably isn't in their plans. if it's a Stafford type, I don't have Fitz in the equation. If it's a Glennon type, Geno goes and it all works while we wait to see what Petty ultimately becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 you're going way out of your way to give reasons why Fitz wasn't as good as he was. To me, you're the one making assumptions, I'm going by his production. You're going by what you think it was helped by, what it would have been like with a different schedule. None of my thinking leads me to say he's the end all and stops me from thinking finding our next QB isn't a high priority. Fitz is perfect as our bridge QB. Someone to get us to his eventual replacement. That include next season if an experienced QB becomes available that fits our system it's called evaluation, not "giving reasons why fitz wasn't as good as he was" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 it's called evaluation, not "giving reasons why fitz wasn't as good as he was" it's called agenda driven, clueless analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 it's called evaluation, not "giving reasons why fitz wasn't as good as he was" No, there is no way to evaluate how much worse or better he would have p,aged with a different schedule. No way you can tell us at he would have played differently. If we were capable you would say his numbers were definitely padded by playing bottom defenses. As I said the Bills were one of those 8 lousy defenses. His numbers in the two Bills games sucked. His season was hurt in two games playing a lousy D not helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Unfortunately, it means quite a lot. The Jets had one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this season. To Fitzpatrick's credit, he did well against poor competition rather than playing down to it as we've seen all too often as Jet fans, but next season he will face much stiffer opposition, and probably in much stiffer weather. The stars aligned for the man this year, but he still couldn't get over the playoff hump. Everybody likes Fitz. The coaches like him, the players like him. Hell, I like him! But going all in with the guy would be a mistake. You can't overpay him, and you have to have a QB on the roster you're ready to turn to if Fitz isn't getting the job done during the season next year. Best case scenario is Petty being that guy. Whether it's him, a high draft pick, another journeyman, or Geno Smith himself, they need to have a QB they're willing to start if Fitz falters. Tougher competition and worse weather are practically givens. I'm not worried about Fitz' age so much as I am about Brick's - who looks about ready to fall off a cliff. Jets enjoyed great health in general, too, this year. Really sucks that they weren't playing last night, things couldn't've broken any better for them this season. BEST POST IVE READ ON THIS FORUM IN MONTHS AND YES IM YELLING!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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