joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, munchmemory said: Marcus Williams' nickname should be "Dusty". He flat out sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Correct. The easy schedule seemed to have a bigger impact than originally thought. I think the whole team is learning that it seems as if the coach and the vets allowed themselves to believe that last season's losses vs. the bills were the abberation. now they're finding out they're not as good as they thought. all it does is push the rebuild back a year, and allows the qbs more time to develop and not get pummeled by these teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: He flat out sucks. He's kind of like the Wayne Hunter of CBs. Played well in short time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: On the contrary, it's going according to plan. The high priced veterans will start coming off the block and the young players will have a year of experience under their belt. IN fact, the injuries are a blessing in disguise, because the younger players get to play more. Nope. Wrong, as usual. Mac has clearly stated his plan is to build/develop + compete at a high level. That's his philosophy. This year, they have failed. It is a step backward in that we're not competing, we're losing players in position groups Mac wasn't planning on yet (based on contracts given out), and it's questionable how much we've developed since they don't play young guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: He's kind of like the Wayne Hunter of CBs. Played well in short time Flash in the pan. CUT him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Pac said: Fitz has proven he sucks with this team and coordinator, which means that Geno, we don't know. whos to say if Geno is good or bad? we just dont have any way of knowign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: the only reason we had a secondary is b/c they had an easier schedule. now we're seeing how it stacks up against better qbs. Setting the bar extra low today, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Never said it was. I appreciate that you want to take an exchange that is specifically about the mis-use of Forte and make it about the QB, the only thing you seem to know how to talk about, but I'm going to kindly ask you to go **** yourself. Not every strain of dialogue here needs to be force-fed into the idiot-mill so that it can be part of the QB bickerfest. There's a lot more that goes on on Sundays. Some of us, that understand what we're watching, like to discuss all of it. that's a harsh response for me making an innocuous comment about forte. i never attack anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Augustiniak said: that's a harsh response for me making an innocuous comment about forte. i never attack anyone. You should tell on me. In the meantime, stop forcing the idiotic QB nonsense into unrelated conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Nope. Wrong, as usual. Mac has clearly stated his plan is to build/develop + compete at a high level. That's his philosophy. This year, they have failed. It is a step backward in that we're not competing, we're losing players in position groups Mac wasn't planning on yet (based on contracts given out), and it's questionable how much we've developed since they don't play young guys. But is that because of the talent or the use of it? That's the question. I don't know what position groups you are talking about in particular, he's drafted in nearly every position. And as I said before, the injuries are allowing young players to play. Especially the receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: You should tell on me. In the meantime, stop forcing the idiotic QB nonsense into unrelated conversations. honestly i have no idea what you're talking about. i must me an idiot, i don't have nearly the rep you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: But is that because of the talent or the use of it? That's the question. I don't know what position groups you are talking about in particular, he's drafted in nearly every position. And as I said before, the injuries are allowing young players to play. Especially the receivers. No, it's not a question, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: He flat out sucks. No. He doesnt. He's literally the only corner to even come near to a pick on the season and he almost had a pick six yesterday. Here's the issue. He was asked to guard an Olympic sprinter that he didnt know was an Olympic sprinter who runs a 4.4, man to man. Big Ben saw the mismatch and Sammie ran a 9 route. Game over. He has zero chance before the ball was even snapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, JiF said: No. He doesnt. He's literally the only corner to even come near to a pick on the season and he almost had a pick six yesterday. Here's the issue. He was asked to guard an Olympic sprinter who runs a 4.4 man to man. Big Ben saw the mismatch and Sammie ran a 9 route. Game over. He has zero change before the ball was even snapped. agree, he didn't get fooled, he got purely burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, JiF said: No. He doesnt. He's literally the only corner to even come near to a pick on the season and he almost had a pick six yesterday. Here's the issue. He was asked to guard an Olympic sprinter who runs a 4.4 man to man. Big Ben saw the mismatch and Sammie ran a 9 route. Game over. He has zero change before the ball was even snapped. He sucks I disagree with you he's always come into a play late missing tackles and always steps behind a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: He sucks I disagree with you he's always come into a play late missing tackles and always steps behind a WR. Well, you're wrong...and that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: No, it's not a question, really. Of course it is. That's why a lot of people want Macc to stay and Bowles to go. Most people blame Bowles more than Macc. The only questionable thing that Macc has done in two years is reaching for Hackenberg. Everything else was either the right move at the time, or out of his hands entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, JiF said: Well, you're wrong...and that's ok. No I'm not his nickname should be toast. Other teams have physical CBs we have wimpy ass shrimps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: No I'm not his nickname should be toast. Other teams have physical CBs we have wimpy ass shrimps. You knew they werent winning the Super Bowl this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: agree, he didn't get fooled, he got purely burned. Corners get beat in every single game, all around the league. It happens almost every play. It's why the league is seeing all time passing records. This is what it is. Brandon Marshall was beating Richard Sherman like a drum last week. Does he suck? No. Of course not. And neither does Marcus Willams...but asking him to do something he cant, isnt his fault. That's on the coach. Take how how he played that comeback route to Bryant for example. It was played perfectly and it should have been a pick six. Not a single corner on his team has been in position to make an interception all year long except for Wiliams....but he sucks? No. That's just flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: You knew they werent winning the Super Bowl this year I knew that but I expected them to be decent and competitive so far I've seen none of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Everything else was either the right move at the time, or out of his hands entirely Literally can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, JiF said: No. He doesnt. He's literally the only corner to even come near to a pick on the season and he almost had a pick six yesterday. Here's the issue. He was asked to guard an Olympic sprinter that he didnt know was an Olympic sprinter who runs a 4.4, man to man. Big Ben saw the mismatch and Sammie ran a 9 route. Game over. He has zero chance before the ball was even snapped. I don't think Marcus Williams is a bad player. He's a solid player for being an UDFA. That said, he's not starting quality. The Jets have one starting quality CB on this team and he didn't play yesterday. Williams is solid depth, decent on specials but nothing more. He's the least of the Jets concerns as far as players. The fact that he's being asked to do so much is increasingly alarming about the front office and staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Of course it is. That's why a lot of people want Macc to stay and Bowles to go. Most people blame Bowles more than Macc. The only questionable thing that Macc has done in two years is reaching for Hackenberg. Everything else was either the right move at the time, or out of his hands entirely Nope. I don't have time to spoon feed people today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: No I'm not his nickname should be toast. Other teams have physical CBs we have wimpy ass shrimps. It's ok to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: Corners get beat in every single game, all around the league. It happens almost every play. It's why the league is seeing all time passing records. This is what it is. Brandon Marshall was beating Richard Sherman like a drum last week. Does he suck? No. Of course not. And neither does Marcus Willams...but asking him to do something he cant, isnt his fault. That's on the coach. Take how how he played that comeback route to Bryant for example. It was played perfectly and it should have been a pick six. Not a single corner on his team has been in position to make an interception all year long except for Wiliams....but he sucks? No. That's just flat out wrong. no, i agree. he physically cannot cover someone that fast and the coaches should have adjusted for that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, JiF said: It's ok to be wrong. So you admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: honestly i have no idea what you're talking about. i must me an idiot, i don't have nearly the rep you have. Confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, dbatesman said: whos to say if Geno is good or bad? we just dont have any way of knowign not with a legitimate set of zi weaponzini and a competent OC we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I don't think Marcus Williams is a bad player. He's a solid player for being an UDFA. That said, he's not starting quality. The Jets have one starting quality CB on this team and he didn't play yesterday. Williams is solid depth, decent on specials but nothing more. He's the least of the Jets concerns as far as players. The fact that he's being asked to do so much is increasingly alarming about the front office and staff. Exactly he's light years behind other starting CB in the NFL because he's on the Jets he's a superstar just like the guy we call a QB. This team is a mess GM to water boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: Nope. I don't have time to spoon feed people today. It's not a matter of spoon feeding. It's a matter of using facts to back up one's opinion. I like the fact that the rookies are playing. The more they play, the more settled they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, BroadwayJets said: Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. Until I see his Harvard tie.... I call Bullshlt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Until I see his Harvard tie.... I call Bullshlt. I would like to join in on this conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, BroadwayJets said: I would like to join in on this conspiracy I say lets get David Wells, hungover, to be the JETS QB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, southparkcpa said: I say lets get David Wells, hungover, to be the JETS QB!!! Finally, some arm strength! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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