The NFL has a big problem

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

there are always hard hits on QBs, happens all the time.  It's easy to call the game pussified while watching on TV.  What you don't realize is how much bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic players are today.  what looks like a routine hit would have killed a man 30 years ago.

That is what I did when I read your post.

you just don't have a clue  if you think an NFL QB is a pussy. 

 

what a pussy! and this hit was by a "little guy"

 

 

320 lb man coming down on Brady

 

just a love tap from Calvin Pace.

 

There are a million examples, the funny thing is I have heard people say Joe Montana was better b/c the game was tougher back then and people forget that in the 80s there was the "in the grasp" rule where the play was whistled dead if a defender wrapped up a QB.  Eli's play SB XLII never happens in the 80s b/c the play is blown dead but yeah players today are pussies and they were much tougher back then

Brady went down for a season because his knee got rolled on. 60-70’s football was all about gong after the QBs knees. When Brady cane back from that injury it’s obvious to everyone on the planet except you Pat fans and your far superior opinion that he is being protected . 

[Jetster]

10 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Brady went down for a season because his knee got rolled on. 60-70’s football was all about gong after the QBs knees. When Brady cane back from that injury it’s obvious to everyone on the planet except you Pat fans and your far superior opinion that he is being protected . 

There are examples all over the internet of Pats olineman blatantly holding while Brady is delivering ANOTHER last second TD for the win. One of them was posted here, vs New Orleans, in Gillette, that one is super funny because the ref is literally looking right at the Pats LT, Brady is just letting the ball go, the LT has his arms WRAPPED around the Saints defender impeding his progress towards Brady. No call, TD Pats, Pats fans go wild. Saints defender walks off field shaking his head,lol. Even the players know Brady is protected, why do you think a guy like Jerrah Jones is so upset with the Zeke thing? He feels like he's not getting equal treatment man, he's an INSIDER, he knows how this all works. None of these owners would ever spill the beans, but why do you think it is that an underdog leading a potential big money team that they need in the playoffs, there's always that call? You've all seen it a million times, little team makes a big play in the 4th quarter, but....wait for it....flag on the play....holding on little sh*tty team. And then when big money playoff team needs a comeback,  3rd & 15, big money QB throws.....INCOMPLETE.....but wait....there's a flag on the play....holding, little sh*tty team CB....5 yards & an AUTOMATIC 1st down! It's like f*cking clockwork in this sh*tty league now.

[nyjunc]

1 hour ago, Jetster said:

How far back you gonna go to find examples of Brady being hit? Lol. Dude threw 50 times in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl & didn't get touched. But that's because he has the greatest offensive line ever created, lmao! Get your head out of your azz, the NFL was getting 1 million a minute or more for advertising during the Super Bowl. Down 28-3 in a blowout, those officials were told, keep the flags in your pockets.

To have a comeback that tremendous, just two holding calls on 3rd down in that entire half could have changed the outcome but even though Brady dropped back like 62 times I believe his line was called for holding once in the 1st half. Every player who has ever played in the NFL says holding could be called on every play. Hell, the Jets are usually called for holding in almost every opening series like the 1st play of the game Sunday. 

he makes his OL look better than it is, great QBs do that.

Holding can be called on almost every play, just like defensive holding or PI.

every QB gets hit hard, to suggest Brady doesn't get hit is foolish.  they all do no matter how good the OL or how good the talent is around them.  adjustments had to be made to the rules over the years, the game evolves, players evolve.  you can't have the same rules in 1970 that you have in 2017.  The players are too big and strong now, they will literally kill each other if we had the same rules. 

57 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Brady went down for a season because his knee got rolled on. 60-70’s football was all about gong after the QBs knees. When Brady cane back from that injury it’s obvious to everyone on the planet except you Pat fans and your far superior opinion that he is being protected . 

of course QBs are more protected but again it's b/c players are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic AND b/c those players filed lawsuits against the NFL so they had to make even more changes.

[bitonti]

if you ever want to know what's wrong with the NFL listen to a referee explain offsetting penalties. 

 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

he makes his OL look better than it is, great QBs do that.

Holding can be called on almost every play, just like defensive holding or PI.

every QB gets hit hard, to suggest Brady doesn't get hit is foolish.  they all do no matter how good the OL or how good the talent is around them.  adjustments had to be made to the rules over the years, the game evolves, players evolve.  you can't have the same rules in 1970 that you have in 2017.  The players are too big and strong now, they will literally kill each other if we had the same rules. 

of course QBs are more protected but again it's b/c players are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic AND b/c those players filed lawsuits against the NFL so they had to make even more changes.

The QBs are bigger Stronger faster too. Not sure what your point is. Big Ben could have played tackle in the 70’s

[The Crusher]

20 minutes ago, bitonti said:

if you ever want to know what's wrong with the NFL listen to a referee explain offsetting penalties. 

 

“ we were told to change our minds”,, “ repeat 3rd down until it’s the right outcome”

[Jetster]

37 minutes ago, bitonti said:

if you ever want to know what's wrong with the NFL listen to a referee explain offsetting penalties. 

 

Lol. Or lack of any expalanation like that helmet to helmet hit by McCourty on Robbie Anderson. Ref nearest play throws flag...Jets are now in redzone again up 14-0 vs the powerhouse New England Patriots....stadium is in a frenzy, we could go up 21-0! Even replay shows some helmet to helmet contact, confirmed by the announcers, Refs circle, ref from farthest distance from the play says, "hey Joe, that might be too big of a lead, remember how many calls had to be ignored for Pats to come back in Super Bowl", so....lets saunter over pick up that silly little flag that JET FANS HAVE NEVER SEEN PICKED UP WHEN THROWN ON THEM...and play on..ok. Wait WUT?

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

he makes his OL look better than it is, great QBs do that.

Holding can be called on almost every play, just like defensive holding or PI.

every QB gets hit hard, to suggest Brady has won a super bowl without cheating is foolish.  they all do no matter how good the OL or how good the talent is around them.  adjustments had to be made to the rules over the years, the game evolves, players evolve.  you can't have the same rules in 1970 that you have in 2017.  The players are too big and strong now, they will literally kill each other if we had the same rules. 

of course QBs are more protected but again it's b/c players are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic AND b/c those players filed lawsuits against the NFL so they had to make even more changes.

fixed it for you

[Butterfield]

8 hours ago, Hitman Harris said:

it is now a pussy "game" and I'm not gonna watch it. I don't give the slightest fvck to watch their dancing with the stars bullshlt 

Yet, you are spending your time on a forum dedicated to the sport.  Got ya.  Lol.  

[greenwichjetfan]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

if you ever want to know what's wrong with the NFL listen to a referee explain offsetting penalties. 

 

Or, watch a pats game. The wife and all of her friends and family are pats fans, so I've spent my fair share watching their games. Honest to god, even the most ridiculous of them have nothing to say to me when I watch games with them and call out the blatant bias. They used to try to argue back with reasoning, but they quickly realized that the bias is real and it's getting stronger and it's gotten to the point where they can't functionally argue- so they resort to the "hate us cuz you aint us" stuff.

Non-calls on their OL is obviously the most prevalent with at least one/two egregious examples per game, but there are other little things too.

- Sometimes the way the ball is spotted at critical moments when Brady quickly runs up and snaps the ball before the opposition has enough time to determine whether it's worth the risk of a challenge
- sometimes the way Gronk lines up just slightly behind the LOS which should result in a penalty but doesn't, and it gives him that split second to burst into his block or explode off the line for a route
- sometimes the fact that when edelman or amendola go in motion, they're angling towards the line of scrimmage before the snap which should result in illegal motion, but instead gives them an extra split second of burst on the defender
- Then obviously, the big ones like the ASJ play, the picked up flag on Robbie Anderson, phantom penalties on the opposition to negate TDs (a completely bogus offensive penalty which even the commentators couldn't find negated a chargers TD against the pats in the 3Q which would have made it a one possession game....and instead the chargers had to punt)

Don't get me wrong - belichick is an absolute genius for taking advantage of all of these things and maximizing his team's chances at winning, but the ref's bias is the reason he can do it. It's absurd.
 

[nyjunc]

3 hours ago, The Crusher said:

The QBs are bigger Stronger faster too. Not sure what your point is. Big Ben could have played tackle in the 70’s

absolutely but that doesn't change the fact that defensive players hitting the QBs are much bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic.  they are generating more speed and power. it's more dangerous than ever.

2 hours ago, Fantasy Island said:

fixed it for you

ok, please let me know about the SBs BB made and won w/o Brady since it was all the "cheating" that did it.  why couldn't we win w/ BB? we had him for 3 years as DC and yet his D blew a double digit 2nd half lead in the championship game in year 2.