Bungaman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 4/16/2024 at 12:51 PM, Augustiniak said: It’s bad when brad smith is top 5 I actually thought Brad Smith wasn't a bad QB - as he never got a real shot at being the QB: they always used him for gadget plays, ignoring the fact that he had a very productive college career as a dual threat quarterback. But in those days, they didn't believe in that kind of heresy: the coaching mentality then thought that pocket passers were the only way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSxWRATH™ Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Pretty much every qb drafted has red flags. The job of the regime drafting a QB is to understand the red flags, understand if they can develop the player to overcome those red flags, or work around those red flags, and understand if they fit into what they want to do with the offense. The last QB I remember being drafted without red flags was Luck, the once in a generation QB. Mahomes had plenty of red flags, but Andy Reid knows what he is doing, Saleh, yeah, not so much..... Coaches can only do so much. The player has to be willing and able to learn from his mistakes. There isn't much a coach can do about a QB who can't complete the most basic throws to RBs out of the backfield, or make accurate passes on quick on WRs screens. Coaches aren't there to teach fundamentals at the NFL level. Like within any professional field, you are expected to have a certain level of knowledge about your job when you start. The staff literally put Zach 's personal QB coach on staff to make him more comfortable and that didn't help. The man was a mediocre QB before the COVID season, and has been even worse after when he stepped up in level of competition. You don't need to be a genius to see that he simply wasn't good to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 hours ago, JETSxWRATH™ said: Coaches can only do so much. The player has to be willing and able to learn from his mistakes. There isn't much a coach can do about a QB who can't complete the most basic throws to RBs out of the backfield, or make accurate passes on quick on WRs screens. Coaches aren't there to teach fundamentals at the NFL level. Like within any professional field, you are expected to have a certain level of knowledge about your job when you start. The staff literally put Zach 's personal QB coach on staff to make him more comfortable and that didn't help. The man was a mediocre QB before the COVID season, and has been even worse after when he stepped up in level of competition. You don't need to be a genius to see that he simply wasn't good to begin with This is some stupid sh*t, thanks for the laugh, I needed a good laugh today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Does anyone know when Geno finally started to play good football? Would any team have held on to him for that long, however long that took? But damn, he's the only what if in the entire group not named Chad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Big news for the Jets' future! https://nypost.com/2024/04/20/sports/arch-manning-throws-75-yard-td-in-strong-texas-spring-performance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/19/2024 at 9:09 AM, LIJetsFan said: Does anyone know when Geno finally started to play good football? Would any team have held on to him for that long, however long that took? But damn, he's the only what if in the entire group not named Chad. The Chargers and Giants each rostered and moved on from Geno Smith before Seattle added him. Even when Seattle had him and moved on from Russ, they had Drew Lock there as their “hedge”, whom Geno had to beat out for the QB1 job. No one believed in Geno Smith as a lock starter, even Seattle. And even now, Geno is little more than an average ish starter in the league, over a decade after being drafted. But yeah some here still think “development” is the bigger issue with Jets’ draft selections, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Chargers and Giants each rostered and moved on from Geno Smith before Seattle added him. Even when Seattle had him and moved on from Russ, they had Drew Lock there as their “hedge”, whom Geno had to beat out for the QB1 job. No one believed in Geno Smith as a lock starter, even Seattle. And even now, Geno is little more than an average ish starter in the league, over a decade after being drafted. But yeah some here still think “development” is the bigger issue with Jets’ draft selections, lol. You are quite possibly the best example of the dunning-Kruger effect of all time, congrats on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthisguy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 At this point, we should just trade for Sean Clifford. It is an institutional failure for the Jets and landing a QB. Take a look at what Green Bay has done from say 1991 on. They traded a first for Brett Favre 1992. Look at all the QBs they have “hit” on. Obviously, there are stars, Jag starters and backups. We cannot even seemingly draft a quality backup. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/list-of-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-classes-through-franchise-history/Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 19 minutes ago, kthisguy said: At this point, we should just trade for Sean Clifford. It is an institutional failure for the Jets and landing a QB. Take a look at what Green Bay has done from say 1991 on. They traded a first for Brett Favre 1992. Look at all the QBs they have “hit” on. Obviously, there are stars, Jag starters and backups. We cannot even seemingly draft a quality backup. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/list-of-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-classes-through-franchise-history/ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Yeah but look at their draft in 1981. They took a punter in round 3 for crying out loud! 1981 Rich Campbell | Round 1, Pick 6 QB, California Gary Lewis | Round 2, Pick 35 TE, Texas-Arlington Ray Stachowicz | Round 3, Pick 62 P, Michigan State Richard Turner | Round 4, Pick 105 NT, Oklahoma Byron Braggs | Round 5, Pick 117 DE, Alabama Bill Whitaker | Round 7, Pick 172 DB, Missouri Larry Werts | Round 8, Pick 200 LB, Jackson State Tim Huffman | Round 9, Pick 227 G, Notre Dame Nickie Hall | Round 10, Pick 255 QB, Tulane Forrest Valora | Round 11, Pick 282 LB, Oklahoma Cliff Lewis | Round 12, Pick 311 LB, Southern Miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthisguy Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Yeah but look at their draft in 1981. They took a punter in round 3 for crying out loud! 1981 Rich Campbell | Round 1, Pick 6 QB, California Gary Lewis | Round 2, Pick 35 TE, Texas-Arlington Ray Stachowicz | Round 3, Pick 62 P, Michigan State Richard Turner | Round 4, Pick 105 NT, Oklahoma Byron Braggs | Round 5, Pick 117 DE, Alabama Bill Whitaker | Round 7, Pick 172 DB, Missouri Larry Werts | Round 8, Pick 200 LB, Jackson State Tim Huffman | Round 9, Pick 227 G, Notre Dame Nickie Hall | Round 10, Pick 255 QB, Tulane Forrest Valora | Round 11, Pick 282 LB, Oklahoma Cliff Lewis | Round 12, Pick 311 LB, Southern Miss Imagine taking a punter in the top three rounds…… wait. Scratch that I know!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 4 hours ago, kthisguy said: At this point, we should just trade for Sean Clifford. It is an institutional failure for the Jets and landing a QB. Take a look at what Green Bay has done from say 1991 on. They traded a first for Brett Favre 1992. Look at all the QBs they have “hit” on. Obviously, there are stars, Jag starters and backups. We cannot even seemingly draft a quality backup. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/list-of-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-classes-through-franchise-history/ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app The packers just know what they are doing they even had Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 10 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The Chargers and Giants each rostered and moved on from Geno Smith before Seattle added him. Even when Seattle had him and moved on from Russ, they had Drew Lock there as their “hedge”, whom Geno had to beat out for the QB1 job. No one believed in Geno Smith as a lock starter, even Seattle. And even now, Geno is little more than an average ish starter in the league, over a decade after being drafted. But yeah some here still think “development” is the bigger issue with Jets’ draft selections, lol. Geno just matured as a person in Seattle. A lot of his issues here and with the giants was immaturity. It’s wierd. His best season with the jets was actually his rookie season when he was throwing to trash like Chaz Schilens yet still somehow got us to 8-8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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