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8 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Comport?  I think you're taking it the wrong way.  It's a long season.  It will be filled with ups and downs.  I am not a Saleh apologist.  I didn't want him in the first place.  Didn't want Rodgers or Wilson either.  They are here now.  They are not going anywhere until our fate is sealed for the year.  I think ranting that the team was unprepared and undisciplined when they played in sh*tty weather, with an extremely tight officiating crew and had horrid field position all day is a bit much.  Every game I have watched I have seen teams look unprepared and undisciplined.  The swing when we win in London is going to be so ******* fast I don't know how you guys don't get vertigo. 

 

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The swing when we win in London is going to be so ******* fast I don't know how you guys don't get vertigo. 

I could absolutely see it happening and, tbh, think it will. 

Otoh, I could also see the game (and, thus, the season) get ugly.  It's going to be a fascinating game next week.

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On 9/29/2024 at 5:33 PM, Hael said:

We have a ton of talent.  But this type of game isn’t won with talent.   This is a typical hard nosed NFL game, in the elements, where it usually comes down to a few plays here and there.   The type that the Patriots in their dynasty used to win every single time.  

This game was about mistakes, lack of veteran leadership (other than Rogers) and our playmakers simply not making that one ‘killer’ play to end things.

So its hard to know who to blame, but Saleh and the coaching staff definitely shares a lot of blame.  But ultimately I blame the core of our team.. THe Quinnen Williams, Sauce, GW etc who simply didn’t get it done.

Didn’t need a killer play.  Just punching it in from the 1.  Would have changed game completely 

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On 9/30/2024 at 7:26 AM, Irish Jet said:

Yeah that really didn’t show up on the field though. This is the issue with Douglas - An offseason champion, a loser of games. 

Our “much better” WR’s weren’t separating.

Their defence dominated our “much better” offensive line.

Certainly more than our “much better” defensive front dominated theirs.

Poor coaching aside we still weren’t exactly winning our individual battles either. Denver are rebuilding team whose highest paid player is a backup QB in Pittsburgh. The Jets are all in for a Superbowl.

We certainly should  be much better than Denver but maybe Douglas’ roster isn’t as good as you think it is. He is a hack.

This post is nonsensical.  How is it JD's fault that the CS isn't getting the team prepared and putting them in a position to succeed?  How is it JD's fault that Hackett's play calling is predictable and his personnel groupings a joke.  How is it JD's fault that Carter isn't doing his job well.  I don't what in the heck he is doing, but he has T. Smith playing the worst he has ever played in his career.  It's the offensive scheme, or blocking scheme.  Saying that he isn't comfortable like Saleh did is ridiculous.

NFL and media analysts have pretty much all said that the Jets should be a SB contender and that they have one of the best and most-talented rosters in the NFL.  The fact that you think you know better is laughable!

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On 9/30/2024 at 9:49 AM, nj meadowlands said:

In the Joe Douglas era the Jets have now won exactly once every three games.

Since the last playoff game on January 23rd 2011 against the Pittsburgh Steelers the Jets have gone 77-134 with 0 ZERO playoff games with only one winning season the disappointing 10-6 Ryan Fitzpatrick dud of 2015

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This post is nonsensical.  How is it JD's fault that the CS isn't getting the team prepared and putting them in a position to succeed?  How is it JD's fault that Hackett's play calling is predictable and his personnel groupings a joke.  How is it JD's fault that Carter isn't doing his job well.  I don't what in the heck he is doing, but he has T. Smith playing the worst he has ever played in his career.  It's the offensive scheme, or blocking scheme.  Saying that he isn't comfortable like Saleh did is ridiculous.
NFL and media analysts have pretty much all said that the Jets should be a SB contender and that they have one of the best and most-talented rosters in the NFL.  The fact that you think you know better is laughable!


He hired the coach.
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Yes, he hired Saleh, but when you hire a HC, you can't tell how he is going to do, and you can only hire from among those who are available.


what kind of garbage reasoning is this? Joe Douglas oversees the entire football operations and people act like he makes little boo boos.

If I told you at the end of the 2019 that it would be 5 years later and we still haven’t sniffed the winning percentage, everyone would say that’s unacceptable but somehow people just slide off any criticism of Douglas.

44% of the nfl makes the playoffs. Asking for that result in the period of a 6 year contract isn’t too much to ask.
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1 minute ago, mfmartin said:

 


emoji23.png what kind of garbage reasoning is this? Joe Douglas oversees the entire football operations and people act like he makes little boo boos.

If I told you at the end of the 2019 that it would be 5 years later and we still haven’t sniffed the winning percentage, everyone would say that’s unacceptable but somehow people just slide off any criticism of Douglas.

44% of the nfl makes the playoffs. Asking for that result in the period of a 6 year contract isn’t too much to ask.

 

Call it what you like, but imo it's not garbage reasoning.  We all know how Woody meddles with this team.  We have no clue what Woody has ordered JD to do and what not to do.

I've criticized JD plenty.  I never wanted Saleh in the first place.  I criticized that hire. I criticized JD's total handling of the drafting and aborted development of Zach. That was a total cluster****.  When he makes a mistake, it's a big one, but he's done far more good than bad and he has added a ton of talent to this team.  He's done well with the draft, FA and the cap.  He changed how the scouts evaluate prospects.  He's had some tough luck with injuries and FAs underperforming, but  their underperforming could definitely be laid at the feet of the CS.  It's the GM's job to acquire talent, and the CS's job to develop players and put them in a position to succeed.

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It’s difficult because on one hand he’s made a very competitive roster (taken him five years to be fair) and if you look solely at the talent we have the results aren’t good enough and that’s on the coaches. 
 

On the other hand he’s continually ****ed up on the biggest decisions. Head coach and quarterback are so important to get right and he’s dropped the ball.

Would  I give him the decision to bring in the next HC and possibly the next QB? Probably not. 

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11 hours ago, hmhertz said:

and sat by as imcompetent assistants were chosan

That's absurd, Henry.  If JD, had interfered with Saleh's choices for his CS, that would have had them at enmity from day one and not working together on the same page.

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