JetCane Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 It's lip service. I guess you believe everyone's campaign promises, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I'm the first to admit that my cfb knowledge is nil to none and is sometimes influenced by my disdain for the program at Chestnut Hill, Ma. I also admit that sometimes I should just keep my mouth (typing fingers) shut (still). HAHAHAH.... Anyway, I'll watch cfb on TV - and I see these incredible crowds - the incredible stadiums - FLA St, Clemson, etc.....and I'm amazed that BC thought it could compete with them recruiting-wise. Academically - BC can be tough. Their field may be smaller than a Texas HS Stadium. Boston will always be a pro-sports town. Never, ever, will they garner the support and passion that say -Clemson- gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Actually I think the whole thing with jumping to the ACC was stupid. BC has geographic rivalries in the Northeast, and personally, I liked having the access to going to Miami games in the N.E. VT is a slum, so i dont care wtf they do, anyway. It was all about money (isnt it always?) not about powerful football conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Who turned this thread into BC bashing- I give you one guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Anyway, I'll watch cfb on TV - and I see these incredible crowds - the incredible stadiums - FLA St, Clemson, etc.....and I'm amazed that BC thought it could compete with them recruiting-wise. Academically - BC can be tough. Their field may be smaller than a Texas HS Stadium. Boston will always be a pro-sports town. Never, ever, will they garner the support and passion that say -Clemson- gets. Miami is a pro town too, albeit a bad one. The Canes cant compete with the Mammals for attention in SoFla. There are only about 8,000 undergrads at Miami, so there isnt a large alum base there, either. There are many more gaytor and nole alums living in Miami. I think BC has a unique recruiting draw- its in a big city with a lot going on. Those players who want more than staring at cornfields or tobacco fields will be drawn to it. They have that going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hmmm...I guess that's a good point, JC. They have no tradition. Tradition like ND singing with the students arm in arm after a victory. A horse blazing through the field with the school flag. Students and players meeting at the 50 yard line. Stuff like that. I suppose they need to develop some gimmick. I hear they had a new bronze Eagle placed at the stadium entrance (in addition to the one in front of the school's main building) and the players kiss it, kneel in front of it, sing to it - I 'dunno - but I heard the players pay some kind of homage to it before every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Actually I think the whole thing with jumping to the ACC was stupid. BC has geographic rivalries in the Northeast, and personally, I liked having the access to going to Miami games in the N.E. VT is a slum, so i dont care wtf they do, anyway. It was all about money (isnt it always?) not about powerful football conferences. Not really. UCONN is the only other IA school in NE and that is hardly a rivalry. BC FB did unto them what their BB did to BC. Cuse and PITT? During the BE days, the only games I really wanted to see is Notre Dame and the U. madmike I will listen to what Tom O'Brein said during the BC/FSU game. The move to the ACC has opened more doors and strengthened some footholds. BC football is what it is. A nice program. Not a great one, but a nice one. It is not like the draw of the BE was bringing in all those players that allowed them to win 6 straight bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Not really. UCONN is the only other IA school in NE and that is hardly a rivalry. BC FB did unto them what their BB did to BC. Cuse and PITT? During the BE days, the only games I really wanted to see is Notre Dame and the U. madmike I will listen to what Tom O'Brein said during the BC/FSU game. The move to the ACC has opened more doors and strengthened some footholds. BC football is what it is. A nice program. Not a great one, but a nice one. It is not like the draw of the BE was bringing in all those players that allowed them to win 6 straight bowls. They are already having a much harder time recruiting since they jumped to the ACC. They should've stayed in the BE and thats becoming more and more obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 brian brohm is better than brady quinn...am i the only one on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 brian brohm is better than brady quinn...am i the only one on that one?i wouldn't go that far... they will both be very good pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 They are already having a much harder time recruiting since they jumped to the ACC. They should've stayed in the BE and thats becoming more and more obvious. Where do you get this info- how would you know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Where do you get this info- how would you know that!because i look at the recruiting lists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 As far as brohm goes alot of people will tell you that Hunter Cantwell will be a better player then either Brohm or quinn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 because i look at the recruiting lists... Mike no offense but do not believe everything you read as my first piece of advice. BC has a program that is right now a bowl team every year- not much more you can ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Hmmm...I guess that's a good point, JC. They have no tradition. Tradition like ND singing with the students arm in arm after a victory. A horse blazing through the field with the school flag. Students and players meeting at the 50 yard line. Stuff like that. I suppose they need to develop some gimmick. I hear they had a new bronze Eagle placed at the stadium entrance (in addition to the one in front of the school's main building) and the players kiss it, kneel in front of it, sing to it - I 'dunno - but I heard the players pay some kind of homage to it before every game. Oy let's not go there- it sounds too gay. Must be a Boston thang. V5114: I've always liked Brohm. He's getting great coaching from Bobby Olive Garden Petrino, and he is all that. Comparing him to Quinn reminds me of the Cutler/Leinart comparison. Both are good, it's just a matter of P.R. and differing opinions on their respective potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Mike no offense but do not believe everything you read as my first piece of advice. BC has a program that is right now a bowl team every year- not much more you can ask for.I said they are good this year... But if any part of the projected quality of their last 2 recruiting classes are true, they arn't going to be making many bowl games in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 They are already having a much harder time recruiting since they jumped to the ACC. They should've stayed in the BE and thats becoming more and more obvious. Based on what? BC is not Notre Dame and can pull a Top 10 class without trying. If New England does not have many top prospects, BC's class will be ranked in the 30s which is usally where it is ranked. Even when New England does, BC has to fight the top schools and stressing academics and being a Catholic school does not help. 5 years from now, BC will be wg=hat it is today. A consistent 6-8 win team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Based on what? BC is not Notre Dame and can pull a Top 10 class without trying. If New England does not have many top prospects, BC's class will be ranked in the 30s which is usally where it is ranked. Even when New England does, BC has to fight the top schools and stressing academics and being a Catholic school does not help. 5 years from now, BC will be wg=hat it is today. A consistent 6-8 win team. 44 Acctually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 44 Acctually... And for a small private Catholic school that is not named Notre Dame, that is pretty good. When BC finds that rare Top 25 player, like Toal a few years back, that get a boost, but more often then not, their classes are full of 3 star players with an ocassional 4 star player from New England/New York/New jersey area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 And for a small private Catholic school that is not named Notre Dame, that is pretty good. When BC finds that rare Top 25 player, like Toal a few years back, that get a boost, but more often then not, their classes are full of 3 star players with an ocassional 4 star player from New England/New York/New jersey area. You can say that but from where they were a few years ago it's a problem. When Rutgers is getting better classes then you and you've been to as many bowls as BC has thats a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 When Rutgers is getting better classes then you and you've been to as many bowls as BC has thats a major problem. It really isnt that big of a problem. One of the perks of them joining the ACC is they get an equal cut of all the conference bowl money. It doesnt matter which bowl they go to- their cut is the same. And the ACC has its firm bowl tie-ins, so they will have a guaranteed number of teams in bowls each year. I dont like it, and I think has already made the three teams who joined the ACC more complacent about their fb programs. But remember, they got shown the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 It really isnt that big of a problem. One of the perks of them joining the ACC is they get an equal cut of all the conference bowl money. It doesnt matter which bowl they go to- their cut is the same. And the ACC has its firm bowl tie-ins, so they will have a guaranteed number of teams in bowls each year. I dont like it, and I think has already made the three teams who joined the ACC more complacent about their fb programs. But remember, they got shown the money.I knew they went for the money but if i was a fan of one of those teams that would piss me off to no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 have you guys seen the longhorns current class for 07? they arent done yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 have you guys seen the longhorns current class for 07? they arent done yet either. Texas is Texas dude lol They won't be "done" in our lifetimes heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harris5214 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 i know but look at this, they have 4 5 star recruits, 13 4 star recruits, and 6 3 star recruits, and 3 of the 3 star recruits are going to be bumped up to 4 star recruits in a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 BC is 12 seconds away from being 8-0. After owning Notre Dame in the last few meetings the Irish dropped BC from their schedule and replaced them with Rutgers. BC is good enough to win 7-10 games per season. As long as Tom O'Brien is Coach they will be fine. With all the ACC bashing JetCane, why haven't you mentioned the Hurricanes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 BC is 12 seconds away from being 8-0. After owning Notre Dame in the last few meetings the Irish dropped BC from their schedule and replaced them with Rutgers. BC is good enough to win 7-10 games per season. As long as Tom O'Brien is Coach they will be fine. With all the ACC bashing JetCane, why haven't you mentioned the Hurricanes? BC is winning this year with players recruited from their big east days. That well is drying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 BC is winning this year with players recruited from their big east days. That well is drying up. Not according to this article: http://sports.bostonherald.com/college/football/view.bg?articleid=165444 I have also read articles over the last year and half where they landed recruits because of the move to the ACC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 BC is winning this year with players recruited from their big east days. That well is drying up. Why you think the Big East is better for BC's recruiting then the ACC is beyond me. According to rivals.com, BC has had better recruiting classes then Rutgers every year since 2002. Which ironically is as far back as they go. BC had largely been an ACC property since October 2003. Although they did not officially join until the 2005 season, all the Freshmen, Sophmores and Juniors knew they were going to be playing a majority of their careers in the ACC. Those 14 Seniors might have been attracted to the draw of the Big East, but every class since then knew they would be playing more ACC ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 According to rivals.com, BC has had better recruiting classes then Rutgers every year since 2002. Which ironically is as far back as they go. Yeah up untill this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Yeah up untill this year.... http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2007&Page=2&Type=0&Sort=0 Look at who is #32 and #41. 32 > 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2007&Page=2&Type=0&Sort=0 Look at who is #32 and #41. 32 > 41 Those ranking are from like 8 months ago before Rutgers got 2 more 4-stars and are very close to getting a 5-star. The new rankings don't come out till after signing day and rutgers will be above BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildthing2022000 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2006 5 Notre Dame 44 BC 63 Rutgers BC always have a decent bowl game team, Rutgers is having it's best year since the sport was invented because of the cupcake scheduling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=14&yr=2006 5 Notre Dame 44 BC 63 Rutgers BC always have a decent bowl game team, Rutgers is having it's best year since the sport was invented because of the cupcake scheduling. That list isn't CLOSE to being current. It has Rugers with only 6 3-stars and nothing else LMAO. We have 3 4-stars and 8 3-stars now. BC still has 0 4-Stars by the way. Rankings as of 2/28/2006LMAO Try again buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 That list isn't CLOSE to being current. It has Rugers with only 6 3-stars and nothing else LMAO. We have 3 4-stars and 8 3-stars now. BC still has 0 4-Stars by the way. LMAO Try again buddy. Rutgers is having a wonderful resurgence under Schianno. There is clearly a void in the NY/NJ area for a college football power with Cuse sucking ass. However, probably for the first time ever they have a recruiting class worth mentioning. Plus, once Schianno moves onto a school that actually is competitive, Rutgers will fall back to the 3-5 win team they always are. 3, 4 and 5 star recruits are all nice. Recruiting is like the draft. DROB and Jonathan Sullivan, Jimmy Kennedy, Kevin Williams all were picked ahead Ty Warren. With hindisght, I can honestly say, I wish none of them fell to the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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