DonCorleone Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Granted, you can't judge a first year starter on a bad team...But the one thing that I have noticed is that KC does not make the players around him better. The drops and a horrible OL are all part of it. I just see very few flashes from him. IMO KC will be a great backup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I say fix the Oline...and give him (KC) a training camp. We drafted him in the 2nd round for a reason. This year he gets a pass IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i think all positions, including QB are on the table for the draft Clemens may not have had a great OL in front of him, but he didn't exactly show good judgment. a safety is better than a pick 6, and it's not like this is the first week he's shown no pocket awareness. yes Clarke sucks but Clemens should know that and adjust accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i think all positions, including QB are on the table for the draft Clemens may not have had a great OL in front of him, but he didn't exactly show good judgment. a safety is better than a pick 6, and it's not like this is the first week he's shown no pocket awareness. yes Clarke sucks but Clemens should know that and adjust accordingly. Agreed.... 100% agreed. He was going to get sacked so he tried to throw it over everyone's head. just plain dumb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i think all positions, including QB are on the table for the draft Clemens may not have had a great OL in front of him, but he didn't exactly show good judgment. a safety is better than a pick 6, and it's not like this is the first week he's shown no pocket awareness. yes Clarke sucks but Clemens should know that and adjust accordingly. Pocket awareness comes from reps and training...that is something that can be changed/fixed. He'll learn not to hold on to the ball, and throw it away when nobody is open (hopefully). Schott was key into turning Brees into the QB that he is today....I wouldn't mind if they brought in a QB in the draft. Maybe 4-5th rounds...but Clemens has to come into the offseason/training camp as a starter or compete for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 i think all positions, including QB are on the table for the draft Clemens may not have had a great OL in front of him, but he didn't exactly show good judgment. a safety is better than a pick 6, and it's not like this is the first week he's shown no pocket awareness. yes Clarke sucks but Clemens should know that and adjust accordingly. I'm with you on this one. And aside from the rookie mistakes....He's had too many picks in the red zone. To me, that is alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I say fix the Oline...and give him (KC) a training camp. We drafted him in the 2nd round for a reason. This year he gets a pass IMO. Drafting him in the second round really doesn't mean squat as far as how he'll do in the NFL...there's a who's who book of QB's taken in the first round that are in plain suits right now. We drafted Pennington in the first round...how's he doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Drafting him in the second round really doesn't mean squat as far as how he'll do in the NFL...there's a who's who book of QB's taken in the first round that are in plain suits right now. We drafted Pennington in the first round...how's he doing? I agree...but when you draft a guy that high he's gonna play....or at least compete for a starting job. People are so quick to call Clemens a bust but other players around him aren't doing their job. I think Chad turned out pretty good for us...no? Some of the best Jets football i've seen in the past couple years was with Chad under center. Too bad injuries take its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I think Clemens deserves next season with a better OL. If we were simply a QB upgrade away from the SB maybe the tought process would be different. As we are not, Kellen deserves some more games and the staff will hopefully have a backout plan in place whether it be via the draft or FA should Kellen not be the future. As a big Chad fan I am amazed at the impatience shown for Kellen and the HC by many here who vehemently called for their predecessors heads. We have a lot of long suffering fans but need to remain rational in our thought process and understand that sometimes immediate results just cant be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 You can't expect much from a rookie QB with 3/5 of an O-line that ranges from mediocre to miserable. Adrien Clarke and Anthony Clement are probably third stringers on any other team, and Brandon Moore is really no more than average. Combine that with the fact that his best receiving threat, Coles, has missed half of the games Clemens has started. After Coles, Clemens has Cotchery, who hasn't shown the ability whatsoever to be a #1 receiver, stone-hands McCareins, and not much better Brad Smith. NTM no running game. Surround Clemens with some weapons and an O-line and he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Surround Clemens with some weapons and an O-line and he'll be fine. the same can be said about Chad Pennington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 the same can be said about Chad Pennington. Not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 the same can be said about Chad Pennington.NOT since 2002- ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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