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#21 tEYbow

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

Geez, forgot about Kendall, I think i blocked out everything related to Adrien Clarke. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that Tanny may not have promised anyone anything, but used purposefully ambiguous/vague language so it comes across like that. I do now remember there being something akin to "I was told i would be taken care of," which if Tanny is lying to players, it's just another reason to toss him to the curb. there were rumors that woody would just demote him back to his old role, but I'm not sure if anything but a purge will clear a lot of the ineptitude up.


Why let him manage the cap? Did you see the Sanchez extension? Do you see the cap shape we're in heading into next year?

Not only is Tanny bad at the hard part of being a GM (talent evaluation and acquisition), he's also bad at the part he was supposedly good at (Microsoft Excel).

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:47 PM

Both Revis and Pete Kendall made this claim. I feel like Ellis might have as well. That's just off memory.


Oh man, Kendallgate. He's gotta be laughing his ass off at all of this right?

(Chandler)'s a nice piece as long as he's the 7th most important player on your roster....I think they're going to be disappointed when they see he's just a pumped-up Drew Gooden.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:53 PM

Is this a bit hyperbolic? Not snarky as I'm curious, who'd they lie to?? They told Stanton he'd be given an opportunity and they traded him promptly, which he said he's grateful for, once they got tebow. I just don't see any single player that they outright lied to.


Pretty sure Derrick Mason was saying "they lied to me" when he left, there's been others. I'd have to rake my memory. I don't have any reason to make it up, Tanny's done enough to indict himself.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

F*ck yeah! I don't doubt that the Jets will be going back on their word if they start McElroy over Tebow, and I don't care. They need to find out if McElroy is worth a roster spot next year. Looks like they've decided Tebow isn't. Good for them.

Exactly. And I feel bad for Tebow who's been a model team player and deserves to play if circumstances were different, but the Jets now have 2 games and as many weeks of practice to see as much as they can in what they have with McElroy. Potentially, a lot of posturing can come out of this evaluation and even giving a couple quarters of it to Tebow would be cutting into an already too short time frame.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:03 PM

Why let him manage the cap? Did you see the Sanchez extension? Do you see the cap shape we're in heading into next year?

Not only is Tanny bad at the hard part of being a GM (talent evaluation and acquisition), he's also bad at the part he was supposedly good at (Microsoft Excel).


Exactly.

I don't know what it is with Jets fans, we bitch and bitch to get rid of these guys over and over, and then when the prospect of them getting the boot becomes real... half the fans start second-guessing and rationalizing scenarios where we can keep the pigs to do "that one thing they were good at" when they weren't really good at it anyway.

This fanbase is SOFT.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:21 PM

Exactly.

I don't know what it is with Jets fans, we bitch and bitch to get rid of these guys over and over, and then when the prospect of them getting the boot becomes real... half the fans start second-guessing and rationalizing scenarios where we can keep the pigs to do "that one thing they were good at" when they weren't really good at it anyway.

This fanbase is SOFT.


The truth is, all else aside, Tannenbaum has had more than enough chance and time. Tannenbaum has been in his position since 2006.

Only 3 GMs: Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore), Rick Smith (Houston), and AJ Smith (Chargers) have held their position as long or longer than Tannenbaum without a Super Bowl appearance.

Two of those teams are in much better shape than the Jets and AJ Smith likely gets fired this year.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:26 PM

Exactly.

I don't know what it is with Jets fans, we bitch and bitch to get rid of these guys over and over, and then when the prospect of them getting the boot becomes real... half the fans start second-guessing and rationalizing scenarios where we can keep the pigs to do "that one thing they were good at" when they weren't really good at it anyway.

This fanbase is SOFT.


It's a bit much. Do something so outlandish as demanding a Super Bowl and you're a hater and you're rooting against the team. Argue that 7 years should be enough to accomplish this and you're ungrateful, and should be thankful that we're not the Jaguars. The martyrdom is insane.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

The truth is, all else aside, Tannenbaum has had more than enough chance and time. Tannenbaum has been in his position since 2006.

Only 3 GMs: Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore), Rick Smith (Houston), and AJ Smith (Chargers) have held their position as long or longer than Tannenbaum without a Super Bowl appearance.

Two of those teams are in much better shape than the Jets and AJ Smith likely gets fired this year.


Yup.

Tanny has been the architect of two epic collapses. That is all he has done.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

Is this a bit hyperbolic? Not snarky as I'm curious, who'd they lie to?? They told Stanton he'd be given an opportunity and they traded him promptly, which he said he's grateful for, once they got tebow. I just don't see any single player that they outright lied to.

Both Revis and Pete Kendall made this claim. I feel like Ellis might have as well. That's just off memory.


Revis Kendall Ellis Coles Washington and even Pennington have all made claims of being "misled" read: bullsh*tted, by the jets FO

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:30 PM

Well GMC is starting Sunday so thanx for nuthin Tim. It'll be interesting to see what the Jets do next year with this 8 mill dollar piece of garbage QB. I never dreamed he'd be this bad, he's not even servicable. Message to you Woody: Most Jet fans do not want to see this guy again under center next year. We don't care what you owe him,thats your problem. You made a bad business move,eat it! You have alot of thinking to do Woody,its your mess,fix it.You can't possibly put that bad product on the field next year. They are an embarrassment to the league,that Thanksgiving debacle was a disgrace to the fans and your organization.Your move Woody.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

Tanny has performed almost as worse as Sanchez at his job this year. Lets not forget the Wayne Hunter fiasco in guaranteeing his $2.5 million and then trading him to Rams for Justin Smith who had a killer fakse start penalty yesterday.

But Woody shoukd get credit for this though--everytime fans think a coach should be fired or let go, Woody has done it from Hackett to Herm to Mangini to Schitty. So the odds are that Tanny is out.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

Why let him manage the cap? Did you see the Sanchez extension? Do you see the cap shape we're in heading into next year?

Not only is Tanny bad at the hard part of being a GM (talent evaluation and acquisition), he's also bad at the part he was supposedly good at (Microsoft Excel).


Never advocated for it, merely mentioning that a lateral move/demotion was what was being floated about.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:51 PM

I wanna rep u guys but apparently i got a little too positive last night and maxed out. Apparently positivity has a cap around here.

I am inclined to believe he was lied to as well.



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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:51 PM

This is bs, a lot has changed since they made that promise. He is a little bitch if this is true.


Yeah, Sanchez benching went from theoretical to actual.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

Revis Kendall Ellis Coles Washington and even Pennington have all made claims of being "misled" read: bullsh*tted, by the jets FO


Totally forgot the Leon Washington one. Definitely remember that.

I thought Coles was in there too, but that was a ways back and I didn't really remember. Not sure what Pennington's gripe was.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:55 PM

Revis Kendall Ellis Coles Washington and even Pennington have all made claims of being "misled" read: bullsh*tted, by the jets FO


Not defending Tanny as it's clear he used language that was intentionally misleading or ambiguous, but it seems as though everyone who had an issue was either traded or eventually released, minus Revis. I'm sure he did tell Tebow he would be given an opportunity to start; the same way I'm sure he left out the part that he may get that opportunity, but if the coach thinks you suck more than the worst QB in the league, then you're sh*t out of luck. I tend not to take ex-employees at their word when regarding executives, but there's obviously an issue here. It's a moot point as the guy was awful at his job and should not be rewarded with maintaining it.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:59 PM

They trade for a guy notoriously bad in practice and a winner in games and then don't start him because he's bad in practice. Clowns.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:23 PM

I hope he gets a chance elsewhere next year and to suck and then all will be forgotten. Except when he demolishes the jets at some point.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:23 PM

Totally forgot the Leon Washington one. Definitely remember that.

I thought Coles was in there too, but that was a ways back and I didn't really remember. Not sure what Pennington's gripe was.


Seriously. Tanny is clearly a complete dickbag, but the noodle is the last guy on the planet who has any reason to say a single unkind word about the guy.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:45 PM

Seriously. Tanny is clearly a complete dickbag, but the noodle is the last guy on the planet who has any reason to say a single unkind word about the guy.


Since when is being given a contract worthy of Joe Montana, after proving next-to-nothing not grounds for being ungrateful!?


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