KRL Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 As camp approaches here's some of the issues facing the three parts of the team: Special Teams This unit was abysmal last year and has to make a huge jump just to get to a decent level of production - We have finally been released from the pain of watching "Sir Shank-a-lot" (Quigley). Will Lachlan Edwards or Tom Hackett step up and take the punter spot? - With the rookies and special teams vets we imported will our coverage units be faster? - Will Jeremy Ross or Jalin Marshall be our PR/KR? - Can Folk hold off Ross Martin and continue to be our K? Defense This unit was decent last year but the lack of speed at the LB position didn't allow Bowles to fully deploy the schemes he ran in ARZ - With the LB unit overhauled, can our front seven finally bring consistent pressure up the middle and off the edge? Also, with increased LB speed can we finally shutdown RB & TE? - Will our NT deployment change with McClendon replacing Harrison? - Can Milliner stay healthy and fight M. Williams for the #2 CB spot? - Will players like Pryor, Mauldin and L. Williams take the "next step" and make this unit elite? Offense This unit exceeded expectations last year but RB's that were injury-prone and secondary options that were inconsistent held them back - Can Clady stay healthy? If he can the left side of the line takes a big step forward - Can Winters continue to improve? Can someone step up and challenge/replace Giacomini? - Can Amaro stay healthy and allow Gailey to actually call plays for the TE position? - Did Enunwa improve his hands so he can be used as a consistent secondary option? - Who will step up at WR and become a secondary option (Smith, Thompkins, Peake, Ross, Marshall)? - With a three man rotation at RB can we avoid injuries and keep the production consistent? - Who will be QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 1 minute ago, KRL said: As camp approaches here's some of the issues facing the three parts of the team: Special Teams This unit was abysmal last year and has to make a huge jump just to get to a decent level of production - We have finally been released from the pain of watching "Sir Shank-a-lot" (Quigley). Will Lachlan Edwards or Tom Hackett step up and take the punter spot? - With the rookies and special teams vets we imported will our coverage units be faster? - Will Jeremy Ross or Jalin Marshall be our PR/KR? - Can Folk hold off Ross Martin and continue to be our K? Defense This unit was decent last year but the lack of speed at the LB position didn't allow Bowles to fully deploy the schemes he ran in ARZ - With the LB unit overhauled, can our front seven finally bring consistent pressure up the middle and off the edge? Also, with increased LB speed can we finally shutdown RB & TE? - Will our NT deployment change with McClendon replacing Harrison? - Can Milliner stay healthy and fight M. Williams for the #2 CB spot? - Will players like Pryor, Mauldin and L. Williams take the "next step" and make this unit elite? Offense This unit exceeded expectations last year but RB's that were injury-prone and secondary options that were inconsistent held them back - Can Clady stay healthy? If he can the left side of the line takes a big step forward - Can Winters continue to improve? Can someone step up and challenge/replace Giacomini? - Can Amaro stay healthy and allow Gailey to actually call plays for the TE position? - Did Enunwa improve his hands so he can be used as a consistent secondary option? - Who will step up at WR and become a secondary option (Smith, Thompkins, Peake, Ross, Marshall)? - With a three man rotation at RB can we avoid injuries and keep the production consistent? - Who will be QB? 4 Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnn ..... Single digit days! Can't wait for football to return. Let's go JETS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 As always, looking forward to your camp reports. Hopefully you'll be reporting positive stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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32EBoozer Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 6 hours ago, KRL said: As camp approaches here's some of the issues facing the three parts of the team: Special Teams This unit was abysmal last year and has to make a huge jump just to get to a decent level of production - We have finally been released from the pain of watching "Sir Shank-a-lot" (Quigley). Will Lachlan Edwards or Tom Hackett step up and take the punter spot? - With the rookies and special teams vets we imported will our coverage units be faster? - Will Jeremy Ross or Jalin Marshall be our PR/KR? - Can Folk hold off Ross Martin and continue to be our K? Defense This unit was decent last year but the lack of speed at the LB position didn't allow Bowles to fully deploy the schemes he ran in ARZ - With the LB unit overhauled, can our front seven finally bring consistent pressure up the middle and off the edge? Also, with increased LB speed can we finally shutdown RB & TE? - Will our NT deployment change with McClendon replacing Harrison? - Can Milliner stay healthy and fight M. Williams for the #2 CB spot? - Will players like Pryor, Mauldin and L. Williams take the "next step" and make this unit elite? Offense This unit exceeded expectations last year but RB's that were injury-prone and secondary options that were inconsistent held them back - Can Clady stay healthy? If he can the left side of the line takes a big step forward - Can Winters continue to improve? Can someone step up and challenge/replace Giacomini? - Can Amaro stay healthy and allow Gailey to actually call plays for the TE position? - Did Enunwa improve his hands so he can be used as a consistent secondary option? - Who will step up at WR and become a secondary option (Smith, Thompkins, Peake, Ross, Marshall)? - With a three man rotation at RB can we avoid injuries and keep the production consistent? - Who will be QB? I'll also be watching which of the young guys can step up and help fill the Damon Harrison role behind McClendon(Deon Simon), the future replacement for David Harris(Taiwan Jones) and the depth behind Maulden and Jenkins(Deion Barnes). They need to contribute on ST as well.https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/bga-the-potential-debutants----part-two-defense/190126306BGA: The potential debutants -- Part Two (Defense) By Bent | 2:45PM Share: New York Jets defensive tackle Deon Simon (Tim Fuller/USA Today Sports Images) Between now and training camp, we've been looking at some of the veteran players on the Jets roster to assess their potential contributions to the team in 2016. Today, we're going to share the first part of a two-part look at the six players still with the team who were part of last year's rookie class but have yet to make their NFL debut. Which, if any, of these players can we expect to make contributions this season? Part one saw us take a look at the three offensive players that fit into this category; QuarterbackBryce Petty, offensive lineman Jarvis Harrison and fullback Julian Howsare. Here in part two, we'll look at the three defensive players; defensive lineman Deon Simon and linebackers Deion Barnes andTaiwan Jones. In between now and training camp, we've been looking at some of the veteran players on the Jets roster to assess what kind of contribution we might expect from them in 2016. Today we're going to share the second part of a two-part look at the six players still with the team who were part of last year's rookie class but who have yet to make their NFL debut. Which, if any, of these players can we expect to make contributions this season? Part one saw us take a look at the three offensive players that fit into this category; QuarterbackBryce Petty, offensive lineman Jarvis Harrison and fullback Julian Howsare. Here in part two, we'll look at the three defensive players; defensive lineman Deon Simon and linebackers Deion Barnes andTaiwan Jones. Simon Simon was the only player of these three that the Jets drafted last year (in the seventh round). He began the year on the active roster, but was never activated. Simon was waived at the end of September and put on the practice squad for the rest of the season. He signed a futures deal after the season. Simon saw plenty of playing time in the preseason, mostly paired with undrafted rookies Davon Wallsand Jordan Williams. He was easily the most impressive of the three. While Walls has not been with a team since, Williams signed with Miami and even got some regular season playing time with them. Simon showed a knack for coming up with big plays, recording 1.5 sacks, a pass break-up, a tackle for loss and a fumble recovery. However, the sacks were of the cheap coverage clean-up variety. He recorded one other pressure, showing off his athleticism on a stunt. It's against the run where he needs to show more, and Simon made some encouraging progress there. In the first game, he was blocked to the ground on a short yardage play and then wasn't able to get across laterally fast enough to prevent a runner from getting to the hole. In the next game, while he was still pushed around at times, he showed an improved ability to penetrate, shed blocks and move well laterally, as he was able to bottle up a couple of runs. If Simon is going to emulate Damon Harrison, who signed with the New York Giants in the offseason, he'll need to improve his consistency because he was blocked out of plays at times, whereas that rarely happened to Harrison even against starters. Nevertheless, it was an encouraging start from him. Known Mike Maccagnan confidante Charley Casserly said Jets fans need to look out for Simon,comparing him to Harrison. Barnes Barnes was an unheralded free-agent signing after going unselected in last year's draft. However, he was the only player on the team to spend the entire regular season on the practice squad. Barnes had an impressive preseason with 1.5 sacks, which was tied for the team lead with three other Jets including Simon. Trevor Reilly was the only player to record more pressure than Barnes in preseason and he missed a tackle in the pocket in the last game which would have given him the team lead with 2.5 sacks. Despite his success as a pass rusher, it was against the run where he was surprisingly at his most effective. Barnes displayed a good ability to get good leverage and penetrate. He was able to make stops by holding his ground at the point of attack and by stretching a run out to the sideline, and also had one outstanding play in which he blew up a run at the goal line. While he fared well against backups, there was a reminder of how far he has to go in the Giants game. He was called upon for just one snap with the first unit and it did not go well, as wide receiver Dwayne Harris easily drove him off the line on the left side: In the previous installment, I linked to an article by ESPN New York's Rich Cimini in which he named his risers and fallers from mini-camp. Barnes was one of his risers. Linebackers coach Mark Collins also named Barnes as the one player at any position who had made the biggest improvement since last year. Jones Jones was another undrafted rookie, but he was the only one of these three to end the season on the active roster. Jones was promoted when wide receiver Devin Smith injured his knee in mid-December, but was kept inactive down the stretch. In preseason, Jones was quiet over the first three games, but did get in on one stop in each game, including one where he was unblocked and made a tackle in the backfield. He really flashed in the last game, though, making four stops against the run and one in coverage, as well as a big hit down the field. Coverage might be a concern for Jones, who ran a 4.9 40-yard dash at his combine and pro day workouts last season, but he only gave up two catches for 17 yards. He also helped his case by getting in on three special teams tackles. Jones has also received some positive offseason buzz, as draft insider Tony Pauline reporting that the team sees him as a potential future replacement for David Harris. Conclusions Unlike with the three offensive players we looked at, there's been a positive buzz about all three of these players. There's potentially room at the back end of the roster for all three of them with the chance they could exceed expectations even further to earn an even more significant role. I look upon Simon as having the best chance. While there isn't much roster space on the defensive line, Steve McLendon is the only other natural nose tackle the team has. The Jets brought in three undrafted defensive linemen, but they all seem more likely to be longer-term projects than immediate competition. Perhaps Simon could make a push to split time with McLendon and possibly even start over him within a year. Barnes is in a group of players with a chance at a backup outside linebacker role. While I assume the current plan is for Lorenzo Mauldin and Jordan Jenkins to eventually be the two players atop the depth chart, Barnes will compete with the likes of Reilly and Freddie Bishop for time. He might even have an outside chance at starting off ahead of Jenkins if he's more NFL-ready than the rookie. Finally, while Harris might not need a replacement for another year or two, if Jones can lock down that fourth inside linebacker spot and start earning some playing time, that will be a positive step ahead of next year. With Erin Henderson and Darron Lee expected to battle for the spot alongside Harris, Jones' most obvious competition for that role is likely to be Bruce Carter, who is only on a one-year deal. There are not many recent examples of players following this inactive as a rookie-to-contributor in year two path with the Jets. The only one from last year was Dexter McDougle, who almost certainly would have played as a rookie had he not suffered a season-ending injury. While it's good to see players developing and unexpected contributors emerging to provide the team with valuable low-cost depth, it's perhaps disappointing the strength here is on the defensive side of the ball when there is arguably more of a need on offense. However, there are plenty of other young offensive prospects on the team, so it will be interesting to see who steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The current camp schedule really doesn't give fans the opportunity to visit much will strongly rely on the reports here thanks guys for doing it in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 9 hours ago, KRL said: As camp approaches here's some of the issues facing the three parts of the team: Special Teams This unit was abysmal last year and has to make a huge jump just to get to a decent level of production - We have finally been released from the pain of watching "Sir Shank-a-lot" (Quigley). Will Lachlan Edwards or Tom Hackett step up and take the punter spot? - With the rookies and special teams vets we imported will our coverage units be faster? - Will Jeremy Ross or Jalin Marshall be our PR/KR? - Can Folk hold off Ross Martin and continue to be our K? Defense This unit was decent last year but the lack of speed at the LB position didn't allow Bowles to fully deploy the schemes he ran in ARZ - With the LB unit overhauled, can our front seven finally bring consistent pressure up the middle and off the edge? Also, with increased LB speed can we finally shutdown RB & TE? - Will our NT deployment change with McClendon replacing Harrison? - Can Milliner stay healthy and fight M. Williams for the #2 CB spot? - Will players like Pryor, Mauldin and L. Williams take the "next step" and make this unit elite? Offense This unit exceeded expectations last year but RB's that were injury-prone and secondary options that were inconsistent held them back - Can Clady stay healthy? If he can the left side of the line takes a big step forward - Can Winters continue to improve? Can someone step up and challenge/replace Giacomini? - Can Amaro stay healthy and allow Gailey to actually call plays for the TE position? - Did Enunwa improve his hands so he can be used as a consistent secondary option? - Who will step up at WR and become a secondary option (Smith, Thompkins, Peake, Ross, Marshall)? - With a three man rotation at RB can we avoid injuries and keep the production consistent? - Who will be QB? You think one small fry linebacker constitutes OVERHAULING the LB position?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, Mainejet said: You think one small fry linebacker constitutes OVERHAULING the LB position?????? Darron Lee, Jordan Jenkins, Bruce Carter, Freddie Bishop, Deion Barnes, Mike Catapano to name a few. Yes, that's overhauling the LB position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Just now, KRL said: Darron Lee, Jordan Jenkins, Bruce Carter, Freddie Bishop, Deion Barnes, Mike Catapano to name a few. Yes, that's overhauling the LB position The Jets defense ranked 4th in overall defense just last season. So what kind of improvement do you think that makes this team this season? They will go DOWN in overall defense this season. Todd Bowles is a terrible HC and you will see this linebacking corp overhauled 18 times or no NEVER win this team a SB. NEVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 34 minutes ago, Mainejet said: You think one small fry linebacker constitutes OVERHAULING the LB position?????? get over it, your rants are getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 The Jets defense ranked 4th in overall defense just last season. So what kind of improvement do you think that makes this team this season? They will go DOWN in overall defense this season. Todd Bowles is a terrible HC and you will see this linebacking corp overhauled 18 times or no NEVER win this team a SB. NEVER. Wow Maine, You've become a real downer brother. I hope we do well this year, if for no other reason then to restore your faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It's been a while since I felt good about relying on the punter to help with field position. Hope that changes this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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