Green Jets & Ham Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 IF the Jets Get the #1 Overall Pick and Brady Quinn DOES NOT declare Assuming the Jets and Texans are tied at 2-14, thus would switch positions in RD 2 == 01. N.Y. Jets RB Reggie Bush, USC == 02. Hou Texans OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia == 03. Balt Ravens {Via 49ers} QB Matt Leinert, USC == 04. G.B. Packers OLB AJ Hawk, Ohio State == 05. Tenn Titans QB Vince Young, Texas == 06. N.O. Saints OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa == 07. Buf Bills DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon == 08. Clev Browns DE Mario Williams, NC State == 09. Ariz Cards RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota == 10. S.F. 49ers {Via Ravens} RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis == 11. Det Lions DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College == 12. Oak Raiders DT Rod Wright, Texas == 13. Mia Dolphins CB Jimmy Williams, VaTech == 14. STL Rams ILB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia == 15. Phil Eagles OT Eric Winston, Miami == 16. Den Broncos {Via Skins} OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn == 17. Minn Vikings TE Mercedes Lewis, UCLA == 18. Atl Falcons OT Jonathan Scott, Texas == 19. Pitt Steelers RB LenDale White, USC == 20. N.E. Patriots CB Michael Huff, Texas == 21. Dal Cowboys OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California == 22. T.B. Bucs CB Ashton Youboty, Ohio State == 23. N.Y. Giants WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State == 24. K.C. Chiefs QB Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green == 25. S.D. Chargers OT Winston Justice, USC == 26. Chi Bears TE Leonard Pope, Georgia == 27. Car Panthers OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia == 28. Jac Jaguars TE Vernon Davis, Maryland == 29. Cinn Bengals DE Tamba Hali, Penn State == 30. Den Broncos S LaRon Landry, LSU == 31. Sea Seahawks OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP == 32. Indy Colts OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State == RD 2 === 33. Hou Texans NT Gabe Watson, Michigan == 34. N.Y. Jets QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt == Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I left JI to ESCAPE these idiotic mock drafts! PLEASE make it stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennFoley Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 IF the Jets Get the #1 Overall Pick and Brady Quinn DOES NOT declare Assuming the Jets and Texans are tied at 2-14, thus would switch positions in RD 2 == 01. N.Y. Jets RB Reggie Bush, USC == 02. Hou Texans OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia == 03. Balt Ravens {Via 49ers} QB Matt Leinert, USC == 04. G.B. Packers OLB AJ Hawk, Ohio State == 05. Tenn Titans QB Vince Young, Texas == 06. N.O. Saints OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa == 07. Buf Bills DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon == 08. Clev Browns DE Mario Williams, NC State == 09. Ariz Cards RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota == 10. S.F. 49ers {Via Ravens} RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis == 11. Det Lions DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College == 12. Oak Raiders DT Rod Wright, Texas == 13. Mia Dolphins CB Jimmy Williams, VaTech == 14. STL Rams ILB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia == 15. Phil Eagles OT Eric Winston, Miami == 16. Den Broncos {Via Skins} OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn == 17. Minn Vikings TE Mercedes Lewis, UCLA == 18. Atl Falcons OT Jonathan Scott, Texas == 19. Pitt Steelers RB LenDale White, USC == 20. N.E. Patriots CB Michael Huff, Texas == 21. Dal Cowboys OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California == 22. T.B. Bucs CB Ashton Youboty, Ohio State == 23. N.Y. Giants WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State == 24. K.C. Chiefs QB Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green == 25. S.D. Chargers OT Winston Justice, USC == 26. Chi Bears TE Leonard Pope, Georgia == 27. Car Panthers OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia == 28. Jac Jaguars TE Vernon Davis, Maryland == 29. Cinn Bengals DE Tamba Hali, Penn State == 30. Den Broncos S LaRon Landry, LSU == 31. Sea Seahawks OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP == 32. Indy Colts OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State == RD 2 === 33. Hou Texans NT Gabe Watson, Michigan == 34. N.Y. Jets QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt == JAY CUTLER???? VANDERBILT????? NO NO NO NO!!!! SEC PLAYERS S-U-C-K F' THE SEC!!! GO BIG 10!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Jets & Ham Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I left JI to ESCAPE these idiotic mock drafts! PLEASE make it stop! What else is there to discuss, Bob ... this weeks thrilling Jets Vs Raiders Game? Face it oldtimer, we are already in full draft mode, and have been since October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 AJ Hawk-shouldn't this guy skip the NFL and go right to being an action figure? Vince McMahon on line 4 for Mr. Hawk! Bob and GJH both have a point. Let you know after afew more MGDs where I come down on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I don't really wanna get into the draft yet either. But hell, i'd take Lindale White in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Great job, Hammer.....2 quick points: If I was a Tennessee fan and the team selected Young, a long term project with an unorthodox throwing motion and questionable accuracy with the 5th pick, I think I'd feel like this Ahmad Brooks, I wouldn't touch with a 100 foot pole right now. Here's what I wrote about him at DD.com: Virginia linebacker Ahmad Brooks, a junior who sat out 5 games this season with a rash of injuries, could become a real problem in the eyes of NFL scouts if decides to forego his final season of eligibility and enters the NFL draft, as some in the media have speculated. On one hand, the uniquely nimble 260 pound linebacker has the look of an impact player when healthy. However, the aforementioned injuries have to be a huge concern for NFL teams -- how does a team invest a high draft pick on him and hand him millions of dollars in bonus money with his recent injury history? Brooks sat out the entire spring and the first month of the season with a degenerative knee condition -- which may or may not ever get much better. And, to make matters worse, he also sat out games due to back and ankle issues. According to some insider sources, it would seem Brooks best bet would be to return to Virginia and re-establish himself as a top prospect next season. But from Brooks' vantage point, what happens if he returns to Virginia and is affected by injuries next season (particularly the knee) too?....... Does his stock drop even more, with his stellar 2004 season an even more distant memory? What I didn't mention publicly on the site, is insiders are reporting Al Groh is so sick of the injuries and the distractions caused by it, he just wants him to leave. *********** Bugg, you've got the wrong OSU linebacker that will catch Vince McMahons eye -- suposedly all the OSU linebackers love wrestling Check out this bio, of this expected future star: http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/laurinaitis_james00.html His story: http://www.vindy.com/content/sports/local_regional/372024540663919.php http://www.jacksfootball.com/coach-laurinaitis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 JAY CUTLER???? VANDERBILT????? NO NO NO NO!!!! SEC PLAYERS S-U-C-K F' THE SEC!!! GO BIG 10!!!!! Wow, are you really legally retarded? Wasn't it you that was sucking Eli's dick so fast you made his head spin? Last I checked, Ole Miss was not a Big Ten school. On to the topic at hand, I really love that mock draft. While I've long said I'd prefer Ferguson over Bush, getting Jay Cutler in the second round would be amazing. And for the Jets in the short term, the Titans going with Vince Young is certainly interesting. I forsee Billy Volek in our future if that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 IF the Jets Get the #1 Overall Pick and Brady Quinn DOES NOT declare Assuming the Jets and Texans are tied at 2-14, thus would switch positions in RD 2 == 01. N.Y. Jets RB Reggie Bush, USC == 02. Hou Texans OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia == 03. Balt Ravens {Via 49ers} QB Matt Leinert, USC == 04. G.B. Packers OLB AJ Hawk, Ohio State == 05. Tenn Titans QB Vince Young, Texas == 06. N.O. Saints OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa == 07. Buf Bills DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon == 08. Clev Browns DE Mario Williams, NC State == 09. Ariz Cards RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota == 10. S.F. 49ers {Via Ravens} RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis == 11. Det Lions DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College == 12. Oak Raiders DT Rod Wright, Texas == 13. Mia Dolphins CB Jimmy Williams, VaTech == 14. STL Rams ILB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia == 15. Phil Eagles OT Eric Winston, Miami == 16. Den Broncos {Via Skins} OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn == 17. Minn Vikings TE Mercedes Lewis, UCLA == 18. Atl Falcons OT Jonathan Scott, Texas == 19. Pitt Steelers RB LenDale White, USC == 20. N.E. Patriots CB Michael Huff, Texas == 21. Dal Cowboys OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California == 22. T.B. Bucs CB Ashton Youboty, Ohio State == 23. N.Y. Giants WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State == 24. K.C. Chiefs QB Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green == 25. S.D. Chargers OT Winston Justice, USC == 26. Chi Bears TE Leonard Pope, Georgia == 27. Car Panthers OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia == 28. Jac Jaguars TE Vernon Davis, Maryland == 29. Cinn Bengals DE Tamba Hali, Penn State == 30. Den Broncos S LaRon Landry, LSU == 31. Sea Seahawks OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP == 32. Indy Colts OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State == RD 2 === 33. Hou Texans NT Gabe Watson, Michigan == 34. N.Y. Jets QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt == If the first round were to shake out that way Ham, I'd much rather see the Jets take Andrew Whitworth OT out of LSU. Him and Jones could shore up that line for several seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Nice work, ham. I'd sign for that right now, but I really think the Jets HAVE TO draft the highest rated Otackle on the board in rd 2 over Gabe Watson. I hope the Jets sign their Gabe Watson in free agency - Grady Jackson. So we fill that hole pre-draft. I havent watched a Vandy game, but I've seen highlights, and all I can say about Cutler is, he has a brett favre type arm. Ham, I know you're high on Brian Leonard, so high on him you want to draft him in the 3rd rd. Now I did catch the lousiville/rutgers game, and Leonard is a great athlete. Him and Reggie Bush would be the most versatile, athletic FB/RB combo in the NFL. Both can split out at WR at any time, and catch a pass and take it to the house. The matchup problems these guys could create together in the NFL......its a scary thought. But how is Leonards blocking? He's not very big, but is he a smart lead blocker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ham Good job Interesting selection of Young for the Titans- you think Volek is not the answer there for them- especially since they gave him a new contact if I am not mistaken Reggie Bush and Cutler would be the perfect setup for the Jets if it came about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 What else is there to discuss, Bob ... this weeks thrilling Jets Vs Raiders Game? Face it oldtimer, we are already in full draft mode, and have been since October Ham...that is pretty funny because when we started this site last February we had a Draft Countdown ticker on the front page. I was thinking about it the other day and thought, Man we should have never bothered taking that down! The regular season NEVER STARTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 That would be great if it worked out that way. One thing though. Don't even bother having either of these guys steps on the field until... We get 5 guys that can block for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ham, if we get Reggie Bush, he shouldnt even sniff the ball on kickoff and punt returns. Just our luck, he'd probably blow out a knee returning a kick. I know he's a great special teamer, but Justin Miller is a good KORer, and the risk for injury of our future star at RB is too great, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ham, if we get Reggie Bush, he shouldnt even sniff the ball on kickoff and punt returns. Just our luck, he'd probably blow out a knee returning a kick. I know he's a great special teamer, but Justin Miller is a good KORer, and the risk for injury of our future star at RB is too great, imho. Reggie Bush is quick. Can we put him on Specials to just run in back of Miller and pick up his fumbles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 IF the Jets Get the #1 Overall Pick and Brady Quinn DOES NOT declare Assuming the Jets and Texans are tied at 2-14, thus would switch positions in RD 2 == 01. N.Y. Jets RB Reggie Bush, USC == 02. Hou Texans OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia == 03. Balt Ravens {Via 49ers} QB Matt Leinert, USC == 04. G.B. Packers OLB AJ Hawk, Ohio State == 05. Tenn Titans QB Vince Young, Texas == 06. N.O. Saints OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa == 07. Buf Bills DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon == 08. Clev Browns DE Mario Williams, NC State == 09. Ariz Cards RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota == 10. S.F. 49ers {Via Ravens} RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis == 11. Det Lions DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College == 12. Oak Raiders DT Rod Wright, Texas == 13. Mia Dolphins CB Jimmy Williams, VaTech == 14. STL Rams ILB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia == 15. Phil Eagles OT Eric Winston, Miami == 16. Den Broncos {Via Skins} OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn == 17. Minn Vikings TE Mercedes Lewis, UCLA == 18. Atl Falcons OT Jonathan Scott, Texas == 19. Pitt Steelers RB LenDale White, USC == 20. N.E. Patriots CB Michael Huff, Texas == 21. Dal Cowboys OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California == 22. T.B. Bucs CB Ashton Youboty, Ohio State == 23. N.Y. Giants WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State == 24. K.C. Chiefs QB Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green == 25. S.D. Chargers OT Winston Justice, USC == 26. Chi Bears TE Leonard Pope, Georgia == 27. Car Panthers OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia == 28. Jac Jaguars TE Vernon Davis, Maryland == 29. Cinn Bengals DE Tamba Hali, Penn State == 30. Den Broncos S LaRon Landry, LSU == 31. Sea Seahawks OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP == 32. Indy Colts OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State == RD 2 === 33. Hou Texans NT Gabe Watson, Michigan == 34. N.Y. Jets QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt == Are you sure we'd swap spots in round 2? I was under the impression this happened only of the SOS was tied and a coin flip needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Are you sure we'd swap spots in round 2? I was under the impression this happened only of the SOS was tied and a coin flip needed. What the? I just noticed that, I thought Ham had the Jets grabbing Watson over Cutler. Why would we switch picks with the Texans? I've never heard of that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/laurinaitis_james00.html His story: http://www.vindy.com/content/sports/local_regional/372024540663919.php http://www.jacksfootball.com/coach-laurinaitis.html Good eye, Rigs! That is, indeed, Animal's kid. Animal, of course, is of the Legion of Doom/Road Warriors fame. Just a shame his kid wasn't smart enough to get into a real school. So, he had to settle for OSU. As for the mock... I can't help but approve. I mean, Reggie is one dynamic player. I'm not really high on SEC players, as in at all. But, that comes from my northern bias, as Troll has his southern bias :wink: And EB, I was about to question your reading comprehension! Yes, Ham had the Texans and Jets flop picks in the second. I'm not quite up to speed on who's draft eligible or hot prospects or anything (damn work and working during football season), so I really can't say anything about Cutler, cept taht he's from Vandy and Vandy has always blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 What the? I just noticed that, I thought Ham had the Jets grabbing Watson over Cutler. Why would we switch picks with the Texans? I've never heard of that before. It definitely happens, if the coin flip breaks the tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It definitely happens, if the coin flip breaks the tie. The tie? Even if the teams have different strengths of schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I didn't feel like starting a new thread and all... so I figured I'd lump this mock into it, and let y'all take a look at it and compare it to the one Ham did. http://www.nflgurus.com/mock.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMetalJetsFan Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Great mock. I'm concerned that we have no choice but to address this draft heavily toward the offense. The whole reason we got this way is b/c the last 3 years or so, we've invested heavily into the defense. It seems like a vicious circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Great mock. I'm concerned that we have no choice but to address this draft heavily toward the offense. Which wouldn't be a problem if the Defense was actually playing good this year. I am just hoping they are impacted by how bad the offense is. Knowing the team can't score has to change the way they play the game. Unfortunately because last year this defense was solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathMetalJetsFan Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Which wouldn't be a problem if the Defense was actually playing good this year. I am just hoping they are impacted by how bad the offense is. Knowing the team can't score has to change the way they play the game. Unfortunately because last year this defense was solid. I've posted on a different site a few reasons why I think this defense is struggling so much...at this point...it's the only reasoning i can put behind things. 1. Lack of confidence which leads to lack of aggression 2. Extremely young secondary 3. Lack of a true NT to collapse the pocket 4. We really miss Eric Barton who was of our emotional leaders,enforcers and playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Ferraro Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 IF the Jets Get the #1 Overall Pick and Brady Quinn DOES NOT declare Assuming the Jets and Texans are tied at 2-14, thus would switch positions in RD 2 == 01. N.Y. Jets RB Reggie Bush, USC == 02. Hou Texans OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia == 03. Balt Ravens {Via 49ers} QB Matt Leinert, USC == 04. G.B. Packers OLB AJ Hawk, Ohio State == 05. Tenn Titans QB Vince Young, Texas == 06. N.O. Saints OLB Chad Greenway, Iowa == 07. Buf Bills DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon == 08. Clev Browns DE Mario Williams, NC State == 09. Ariz Cards RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota == 10. S.F. 49ers {Via Ravens} RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis == 11. Det Lions DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College == 12. Oak Raiders DT Rod Wright, Texas == 13. Mia Dolphins CB Jimmy Williams, VaTech == 14. STL Rams ILB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia == 15. Phil Eagles OT Eric Winston, Miami == 16. Den Broncos {Via Skins} OT Marcus McNeil, Auburn == 17. Minn Vikings TE Mercedes Lewis, UCLA == 18. Atl Falcons OT Jonathan Scott, Texas == 19. Pitt Steelers RB LenDale White, USC == 20. N.E. Patriots CB Michael Huff, Texas == 21. Dal Cowboys OT Ryan O'Callaghan, California == 22. T.B. Bucs CB Ashton Youboty, Ohio State == 23. N.Y. Giants WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State == 24. K.C. Chiefs QB Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green == 25. S.D. Chargers OT Winston Justice, USC == 26. Chi Bears TE Leonard Pope, Georgia == 27. Car Panthers OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia == 28. Jac Jaguars TE Vernon Davis, Maryland == 29. Cinn Bengals DE Tamba Hali, Penn State == 30. Den Broncos S LaRon Landry, LSU == 31. Sea Seahawks OLB Thomas Howard, UTEP == 32. Indy Colts OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State == RD 2 === 33. Hou Texans NT Gabe Watson, Michigan == 34. N.Y. Jets QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt == 1. Vince Young goes later. 2. Tomba Ali goes earlier...way earlier. 3. The Giants take an offensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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