Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 He was the first one that brought it up Explain how that makes him town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishy Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Explain how that makes him town The being linked with a player and having a viagra pill? Because it's the identical info I was given. And I seriously doubt Town and scum were given the same info. The fact that he brought it up before anyone else does proves that he's not piggy-backing on already revealed info. If anything, were I in your shoes I'd be more suspect of those of us that said the same later. But Darthe is Town bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The being linked with a player and having a viagra pill? Because it's the identical info I was given. And I seriously doubt Town and scum were given the same info. The fact that he brought it up before anyone else does proves that he's not piggy-backing on already revealed info. If anything, were I in your shoes I'd be more suspect of those of us that said the same later. But Darthe is Town bro. Why wouldn't they be given the same info? Not giving them the same info would be a dead giveaway. Besides I'm town and I didn't get a viagra pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csarmi Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Not sure why a maffia member couldn't have a Viagra pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Tbh my gut right now thinks nolder vs Darthe might be town on town. i don't view either of them as particularly scummy so far as compared to say Hellyeah or Jetscode. I have no problem with Darthe or Verbal suspecting me at this point because I haven't really contributed a whole lot. So that's fine to me. My biggest problem with Jetscode is a while ago when Verbal was the first to bring me up he told him that I was his #1, but he hasn't done a whole lot to follow that up and instead has gone for others. Not that if he's town I'd want him to tunnel me, I just find it strange that he made that comment, didn't really provide a specific reason as to why that was the case, and then hasn't followed up with a vote on me when people starting going on me. Just feels not a logical flow a townie would make if they had a true suspicion on me. Klacko and Smash/Pac have done nothing so I'm perfectly fine voting to pressure them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Welp, i'm very much an idiot. I just went back to quote what I was talking about regarding Jetscode and I think I misread that whole exchange and think Jetscode was just making a joke about himself and not about me. NVM unvote Vote Klacko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misheru Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I'm with Ishy on thise one. unvote vote Nolder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 No big shock there, you've been agreeing/voting the same as Ishy all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 UNOfficial Matrimonial Day 2 Vote Count Nolderp (5) - AVM, Lily, Hallia, Ishy, Mish JVOR (2) - Verbal, Darthe Pac (2) - Hess, 80 80 (1) - Salami Dan (1) - JC Darthe (1) - Nol Klecko (1) - JVoR Mish (1) - Leelou Not voting (3) - Dan, Klecko, Pac With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csarmi Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 unvote vote Klacko For now, I'd assume 80 was just being 80, that's all. I agree with Klacko needing a prod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 unvote vote Klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelou Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 UNOfficial Matrimonial Day 2 Vote Count Nolderp (5) - AVM, Lily, Hallia, Ishy, Mish Klecko (3) - JVoR, salami, Hess JVOR (2) - Verbal, Darthe Dan (1) - JC Darthe (1) - Nol Mish (1) - Leelou Pac (1) - 80 Not voting (3) - Dan, Klecko, Pac With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthe Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Tbh my gut right now thinks nolder vs Darthe might be town on town. i don't view either of them as particularly scummy so far as compared to say Hellyeah or Jetscode. I have no problem with Darthe or Verbal suspecting me at this point because I haven't really contributed a whole lot. So that's fine to me. My biggest problem with Jetscode is a while ago when Verbal was the first to bring me up he told him that I was his #1, but he hasn't done a whole lot to follow that up and instead has gone for others. Not that if he's town I'd want him to tunnel me, I just find it strange that he made that comment, didn't really provide a specific reason as to why that was the case, and then hasn't followed up with a vote on me when people starting going on me. Just feels not a logical flow a townie would make if they had a true suspicion on me. Klacko and Smash/Pac have done nothing so I'm perfectly fine voting to pressure them as well. This is the sort of thing I mean. Calling it Nol vs Darthe is making it bigger while it is while removing yourself from it and assuaging guilt, while pushing that on Hell and JC1. The third sentence holds the second time in his first paragraph that he attempts to consolidate with me. The jetscode argument is eww, and then a vote on someone not even considered that gets quick sheeped by two others, who we can't assume to have a good read on this player because he admittedly has been laying low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I'll try and catch up tomorrow... it's going to be skimapalooza. TOMORROW??? Let's speedlynch this fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Klecko hasn't made one in game comment and he's been here the whole time. Stop asking people to play who don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 This is the sort of thing I mean. Calling it Nol vs Darthe is making it bigger while it is while removing yourself from it and assuaging guilt, while pushing that on Hell and JC1. The third sentence holds the second time in his first paragraph that he attempts to consolidate with me. The jetscode argument is eww, and then a vote on someone not even considered that gets quick sheeped by two others, who we can't assume to have a good read on this player because he admittedly has been laying low. Confirmation bias at work. I'm not pushing you at all. I actually don't think Nolder is a good lynch right now as I'm leaning town on him. I also happen to be leaning town on you as well. That was just the point i'm trying to get across. The Jetscode thing I realized I made a mistake in my initial read and took his post to mean something completely different than it actually was, hence I switched my vote. Klacko is not getting lynched with 3 votes, if he starts talking and actually contributes I'd consider that a win. I've been giving Mish the benefit of the doubt cause I've never played with her, but she's been doing nothing but sheep all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 @JVoR: follow up on what? I voted you. I haven't moved off. And I even mentioned that you've started to pick it up.....it was just later than I expected and after I called you out. He was the first one that brought it up, of everyone, he's the one that I'm 100% certain is Town. Really bad vote.Unvote. Vote Nolder.Can't just lynch someone for derp man. Dude....this is JN....sure we can. hehe The being linked with a player and having a viagra pill? Because it's the identical info I was given. And I seriously doubt Town and scum were given the same info. The fact that he brought it up before anyone else does proves that he's not piggy-backing on already revealed info. If anything, were I in your shoes I'd be more suspect of those of us that said the same later. But Darthe is Town bro. Don't assume, Ishy. We have no idea how this was set up, but when you take an assumption as fact, it'll cause you to ignore important information. We basically know nothing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't think putting pressure on Klecko makes sense until he's at least been given a chance to come back and catch up. A lot of people suck on Day 1 (we can't all be a big fat ape) and he hasn't had an opportunity to comment on Day 2 yet. I'll move there if a bunch of other people do because **** it but I still don't think it's the best choice. And yeah I really don't know what to do at this point. There are several people I'd like to run up or even lynch but not enough people seem willing to commit. Maybe I jumped off Dan too quick. Darthe has been known to say stupid sh*t as town in the past. unvote vote dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Confirmation bias at work. I'm not pushing you at all. I actually don't think Nolder is a good lynch right now as I'm leaning town on him. I also happen to be leaning town on you as well. That was just the point i'm trying to get across. The Jetscode thing I realized I made a mistake in my initial read and took his post to mean something completely different than it actually was, hence I switched my vote. Klacko is not getting lynched with 3 votes, if he starts talking and actually contributes I'd consider that a win. I've been giving Mish the benefit of the doubt cause I've never played with her, but she's been doing nothing but sheep all game. Not a knock on anybody, but that is kinda how most of DM plays these days. 1 or 2 people make a case, and the rest follow along....then eventually lynch/NK the active players and then the game flounders. Rinse & repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't think putting pressure on Klecko makes sense until he's at least been given a chance to come back and catch up. A lot of people suck on Day 1 (we can't all be a big fat ape) and he hasn't had an opportunity to comment on Day 2 yet. I'll move there if a bunch of other people do because **** it but I still don't think it's the best choice. And yeah I really don't know what to do at this point. There are several people I'd like to run up or even lynch but not enough people seem willing to commit. Maybe I jumped off Dan too quick. Darthe has been known to say stupid sh*t as town in the past. unvote vote dan Pressure on Dan works for me. JVoR is actively participating, so if he slips, we'll see it. Unvote Vote: Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 @JVoR: follow up on what? I voted you. I haven't moved off. And I even mentioned that you've started to pick it up.....it was just later than I expected and after I called you out. Dude....this is JN....sure we can. hehe Don't assume, Ishy. We have no idea how this was set up, but when you take an assumption as fact, it'll cause you to ignore important information. We basically know nothing yet. I think i'm not explaining myself very well. I don't have much of a problem with your vote or Darthe's. Early on I was mostly passive, which i recognize is a valid scumtell when I played mafia the last time. I'm town this game. You wrote in a post that Jetcode was your #2 suspect. Jetscode responded to you and said "he's number 1 on my list" and posted a picture of an eight-ball. For some idiotic reason I read that the first time as him suspecting me as #1 since you were voting me. Then i realized he was making a joke and saying he was #1 on his list. It was just a complete misread on my part so it wasn't a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Klecko hasn't made one in game comment and he's been here the whole time. Stop asking people to play who don't want to. This. This occurs often on DM as well. People who don't have the time or don't really want to play are either asked to play as a favor because someone has a lot of slots to fill or they join on their own even though they shouldn't and then either way they don't put in any kind of meaningful activity. People need to stop doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I don't think putting pressure on Klecko makes sense until he's at least been given a chance to come back and catch up. A lot of people suck on Day 1 (we can't all be a big fat ape) and he hasn't had an opportunity to comment on Day 2 yet. I'll move there if a bunch of other people do because **** it but I still don't think it's the best choice. And yeah I really don't know what to do at this point. There are several people I'd like to run up or even lynch but not enough people seem willing to commit. Maybe I jumped off Dan too quick. Darthe has been known to say stupid sh*t as town in the past. unvote vote dan Pressuring klecko in particular make senses to me to a degree. He's kind of a bull in a china shop type of player so it would be informative if he actually talked one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Pressuring klecko in particular make senses to me to a degree. He's kind of a bull in a china shop type of player so it would be informative if he actually talked one way or the other. Yeah ok but he definitely said he was going to be away for the weekend. Hopefully we'll hear from him later today but I don't think there's any point in running him up until he shows up at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yeah ok but he definitely said he was going to be away for the weekend. Hopefully we'll hear from him later today but I don't think there's any point in running him up until he shows up at least. You read his one whiny, bitch quote that closely? He was going to Seattle, not Mars. We all have smart phones where you can find the Internet. I'm almost never home playing this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I have no idea what's going on but get Klacko to L1 and I'll take care of the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 You read his one whiny, bitch quote that closely? He was going to Seattle, not Mars. We all have smart phones where you can find the Internet. I'm almost never home playing this game. alright fine **** it let's lynch him I don't even care at this point unvote vote klecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 @JVoR: follow up on what? I voted you. I haven't moved off. And I even mentioned that you've started to pick it up.....it was just later than I expected and after I called you out. Dude....this is JN....sure we can. hehe Don't assume, Ishy. We have no idea how this was set up, but when you take an assumption as fact, it'll cause you to ignore important information. We basically know nothing yet. The only way to learn something is to propose a hypothesis and then test it to try and detect a pattern. In this game, some people have Viagra and others do not. We can ignore it and chase inactives but eventually we need to start testing to see if the Viagra pill indicates a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I think i'm not explaining myself very well. I don't have much of a problem with your vote or Darthe's. Early on I was mostly passive, which i recognize is a valid scumtell when I played mafia the last time. I'm town this game. You wrote in a post that Jetcode was your #2 suspect. Jetscode responded to you and said "he's number 1 on my list" and posted a picture of an eight-ball. For some idiotic reason I read that the first time as him suspecting me as #1 since you were voting me. Then i realized he was making a joke and saying he was #1 on his list. It was just a complete misread on my part so it wasn't a valid point. Actually, my post was addressing Verbal who remains my number #1 choice for scum. At the time my vote was on him. Also, since we last played together I've developed a penchant for using the Magic 8-ball early in games. I find it more accurate then following crowds. Again, in this instance the 8-ball nailed Verbal as scum. Easy game. #1 on my list. Magic 8-ball approved as well. Hot diggity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The only way to learn something is to propose a hypothesis and then test it to try and detect a pattern. In this game, some people have Viagra and others do not. We can ignore it and chase inactives but eventually we need to start testing to see if the Viagra pill indicates a pattern. As badly as you wish Freud was modding this game it's JiF and Crusher's circle jerk. I want no part of you and your Viagra pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 As badly as you wish Freud was modding this game it's JiF and Crusher's circle jerk. I want no part of you and your Viagra pills. Bukkake scene....what else would you expect from JiF/Crusher wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Actually, my post was addressing Verbal who remains my number #1 choice for scum. At the time my vote was on him. Also, since we last played together I've developed a penchant for using the Magic 8-ball early in games. I find it more accurate then following crowds. Again, in this instance the 8-ball nailed Verbal as scum. Easy game. What the stupid 8-ball really allows you to do is hide behind it as scum and fake your cases with it. You going to actually scumhunt, or just keep hidding behind a random generator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolder Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The only way to learn something is to propose a hypothesis and then test it to try and detect a pattern. In this game, some people have Viagra and others do not. We can ignore it and chase inactives but eventually we need to start testing to see if the Viagra pill indicates a pattern. Or we could just play as normal and if a pattern emerges then analyze it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 As badly as you wish Freud was modding this game it's JiF and Crusher's circle jerk. I want no part of you and your Viagra pills. Tell me how that makes you feel Hess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Bukkake scene....what else would you expect from JiF/Crusher wedding? I was hoping for an endless buffet and enough cake to feed an army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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