artemusclyde Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yeah, I don't understand people who say this is a deep quarterback draft. Every one of these guys is underwhelming. Someone needs to save this for when we look back on this draft and remember the franchise qb's that came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Someone needs to save this for when we look back on this draft and remember the franchise qb's that came out. Word. When Tommy Rees and Johnny Football are alternating Super Bowl appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Word. When Tommy Rees and Johnny Football are alternating Super Bowl appearances. If you don't like those guys, what about Fales, Mettenberger, Boyd, Carr, McCarron, Murray, and Bridgewater. Hell, some people are even saying Mannion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 stop the presses....Paul Walker died???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He's as good as Kaepernick though and he's only a redshirted sophomore. Give him time and he's gonna be solid. Plus, he was playing great till he sprained his lcl or whatever the hell he sprained in his knee. He is young. His accuracy is horrible. Its really, really bad outside the pocket. Possible he gets better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 stop the presses....Paul Walker died???????????? Fast and Friccasseed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 If you don't like those guys, what about Fales, Mettenberger, Boyd, Carr, McCarron, Murray, and Bridgewater. Hell, some people are even saying Mannion. Mannion might be the best of the bunch. Murray reminds me of Alex Smith. I want no part of anyone in the Carr family. Boyd is total trash. McCarron is the next Pennington. This draft may set the record for most back up QB's in draft history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Fast and Friccasseed. He'd be the hottest girl on JN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He is young. His accuracy is horrible. Its really, really bad outside the pocket. Possible he gets better though. Then you want Manziel then who is extremely accurate on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Then you want Manziel then who is extremely accurate on the run. I do like Manziel. His height concerns me - but I do like him as a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Fales, No. Mettenberger, No. Boyd, No. Carr, Maybe. Depends on round. McCarron, Fifth round. Murray, No. Bridgewater I think he's the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No. No. No. Maybe. Depends on round. Fifth round. No. I think he's the best of them. That about sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 He'd be the hottest girl on JN. We've chased away all the women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Mannion might be the best of the bunch. Murray reminds me of Alex Smith. I want no part of anyone in the Carr family. Boyd is total trash. McCarron is the next Pennington. This draft may set the record for most back up QB's in draft history. Boyd is a better version of Geno. Bridgewater's going 1st overall and looks solid, if he can stay healthy he should be good. Manziel's size is my main concern. Carr's older brother sucked, but he played on a sh*t texans team. He got slaughter out their. Also, Carson Palmer's brother sucks and Carson Palmer was pretty good before he got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No. No. No. Maybe. Depends on round. Fifth round. No. I think he's the best of them. Get ready to eat crow when your dead wrong about this class. Also people are saying Carr's going top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 stop the presses....Paul Walker died???????????? Might be a hoax. http://www.mediaite.com/online/cruel-satire-site-reports-that-early-report-of-paul-walkers-death-is-a-hoax/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Tannenbaum sucked. Rex sucks. When leadership sucks, the product sucks. Suck suck sucks. For the 10th time already, that makes no sense. How can any team with a terrible GM, terrible coach and terrible QB have a 4 year stretch where they're above .500? GM, coach, QB.... three most important things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 For the 10th time already, that makes no sense. How can any team with a terrible GM, terrible coach and terrible QB have a 4 year stretch where they're above .500? GM, coach, QB.... three most important things. In the two most recent years of that stretch, we're 11-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'd take Whisenhunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Boyd is a better version of Geno. Bridgewater's going 1st overall and looks solid, if he can stay healthy he should be good. Manziel's size is my main concern. Carr's older brother sucked, but he played on a sh*t texans team. He got slaughter out their. Also, Carson Palmer's brother sucks and Carson Palmer was pretty good before he got hurt. I don't like Boyds delivery or release point. Bridgewater seems to be the safest at this point. We agree on Manziel. Also I would add that he plays out of control. Kind of reminds me of a Jeff Garcia. You make a good comparison between the Carr's and the Palmer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 No. No. No. Maybe. Depends on round. Fifth round. No. I think he's the best of them. Nailed the QB class here T0m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Geno has got this THO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 For the 10th time already, that makes no sense. How can any team with a terrible GM, terrible coach and terrible QB have a 4 year stretch where they're above .500? GM, coach, QB.... three most important things. Bobby Ross went to the Super Bowl with Stan Humphries. Best coach, or Greatest Of All Coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I know, brah. I read all about it on a message board two years ago. http://en.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/1pmv1a/fire_darrell_bevell/ One month ago. Brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I honestly don't know that that is not true. Of all the great coaches in NFL history, the only one who ever got it done on a championship level without a great QB was Joe Gibbs. Paul Brown had Otto Graham. Weeb Ewbank had Johnny Unitas and Joe Namath. Don Shula had Bob Griese. (Marino doesn't count - No championships. All Marino does is to prove how overrated Shula is.) Chuck Noll had Terry Bradshaw. Walsh had Montana. Jimmy Johnson had Troy Aikman. Belichick has Brady. Gibbs is literally the only guy that bucks that trend. You can get lucky and win once with an average QB and an all-time defense like Billick and Gruden did. But Gibbs won three with nothing more than Theismann (who was only slightly above average at best,) Doug Williams/Jay Shraeder, and Mark Rypien. He is the ONLY coach ever mentioned among the all-time greats (Warfish's hatred of him notwithstanding) that is not inextricably linked to an all-time great QB. True then FACT now. All you chuckle heads are screaming about the head coach choice and it's only a piece of the puzzle. I do agreed Rex has out stayed his welcome but the biggest effect of him leaving will be the defense will get worse. How much worse is yet to be seen. If we get a coach and not a serious upgrade in QB talent well we will be talking about this again in four years. ITS A QB LEAGUE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 http://en.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/comments/1pmv1a/fire_darrell_bevell/ One month ago. Brah. I can see how that sort of incoherent prattle would appeal to someone of your massive intellect. Can you interpret this for me, please? "Darrell Bevell is like a man playing rock-paper-scissors, but with Seattle's superior talent he has a "cheat": his rock crushes an opponent's rock. Over the course of many plays, this cheat should guarantee victory. But if you keep calling rock, eventually a smart guy like Jeff Fisher is going to call nothing but paper and hand you your ass." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Went and did a lil' research to counter the vast amount of message board science being presented here. With Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin (I guess?) being referred to as the "massive amount of talent" that Bevell has to work with, and with all five OL starters missing multiple weeks with injuries, the Seahawks offense... Has scored the fourth most overall points in the league! http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalPoints Has the second highest scoring average in the league! http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalPointsPerGame Has second year player Russell Wilson maintaining a 105 rating! http://www.nfl.com/teams/seattleseahawks/statistics?team=SEA Is ranked sixth in offensive efficiency! http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff Is ranked 4th in giveaways! http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/givetake/sort/giveTotal/order/false I know that none of these verifiable stats can stand up to the scrutiny of someone like icon0clast6, who offers this incisive analysis on known arbiter of scientific knowledge, Reddit: Wheres my damn trick plays, like the one where Wilson tossed it to Tate and Tate bombed it to Sidney. Dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 so tom, does the great and powerful bevell make any of those rookie QB's worth drafting if we hire him ? or will they all suck unless they are coached by bevell ? or will they suck no matter who is coaching them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Whoever said this is the simple solution- until we can get competent QB play this team is not going to sniff out a championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 so tom, does the great and powerful bevell make any of those rookie QB's worth drafting if we hire him ? or will they all suck unless they are coached by bevell ? or will they suck no matter who is coaching them ? Bevell, and his magic underpants will make everyone better. T0m swearzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 so tom, does the great and powerful bevell make any of those rookie QB's worth drafting if we hire him ? or will they all suck unless they are coached by bevell ? or will they suck no matter who is coaching them ? Larz, I'm glad you asked. The person who benefits most from hiring Bevell? Geno Smith! Watch any Seahawks game and picture Geno running those plays--sprintouts, play-action, from the spread, and then picture Chris Ivory in the Marshawn Lynch role. Larz, the pieces are already here (minus two wideouts)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Magic Underpants = Dynasty -- T0mShane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Larz, I'm glad you asked. The person who benefits most from hiring Bevell? Geno Smith! Watch any Seahawks game and picture Geno running those plays--sprintouts, play-action, from the spread, and then picture Chris Ivory in the Marshawn Lynch role. Larz, the pieces are already here (minus two wideouts)!!! I'm starting to cross over to the Bevell side. Am I welcome? Is there a secret pass code to get on the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 I'm starting to cross over to the Bevell side. Am I welcome? Is there a secret pass code to get on the bus? Yes! But let's not get too excited. There's a long row to hoe before we get there. Other candidates could pop up, we might keep Rex, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Magic Underpants = Dynasty -- T0mShane Magic panties, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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