SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 It's almost like they drafted athletes and their coaches taught them how to play at the NFL level and now they have a roster full of guys ready to contribute. Like magic! All of those guys were productive or even highly productive in college. If Chancellor was a little faster...Tate a little bigger and faster...Unger a little bigger..Wagner a little bigger...Turbin a little faster...Kearse bigger and faster...all were prospects who had both production in college and NFL athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 All of those guys were productive or even highly productive in college. If Chancellor was a little fast...Tate a little bigger and faster...Unger a little bigger..Wagner a little bigger...Turbin a little faster...Kearse bigger and faster...all were prospects who had both production in college and NFL athleticism. Aaaaaaaaaaand....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 "We have the 2nd ranked defense in th' league, so, even though it looks like we're getting torched right now, we're ranked 2nd in th' league. 2nd." --Ryan logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Seattle's weight program is better than ours. Seriously. What are these guys on. Also when is Earl Thomas a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 All of those guys were productive or even highly productive in college. If Chancellor was a little fast...Tate a little bigger and faster...Unger a little bigger..Wagner a little bigger...Turbin a little faster...Kearse bigger and faster...all were prospects who had both production in college and NFL athleticism. The Jets do the opposite of this. Seriously- did anyone watch Milliner's film? Hills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Seattle's weight program is better than ours. Seriously. What are these guys on. Is this a trick question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Is this a trick question? Sort of. But the speed and size is clearly on a different level than the Jets, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Seattle's weight program is better than ours. Seriously. What are these guys on. Also when is Earl Thomas a free agent. Rex believes in getting another snack they haven't had a decent strength and condition program since Sal Alosi was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The Jets do the opposite of this. Seriously- did anyone watch Milliner's film? Hills? Milliner was a Freshman All American, then was All American as a junior. Dude produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Aaaaaaaaaaand....? It turns out that playing well in college while having NFL size and athleticism translates well from the draft to the NFL. From there the Seahawks do seem to have a great conditioning program and a strong on field organization. I agree that the Jets need to be more like this organization and similar ones (49ers, Ravens). Baldwin was wide open there. Good job Bevell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Notice the Seahawks OL men downfield blocking on the run our guys stand up and watch the RB get tackled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Milliner was a Freshman All American, then was All American as a junior. Dude produced. Everyone at Alabama is an All American.. that's virtually meaningless. I want to see matchups vs guys who project to to go pro. Knocking down passes thrown by Denard Robinson doesnt quite cut it. Alshon beating him off the line was a better indication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 It turns out that playing well in college while having NFL size and athleticism translates well from the draft to the NFL. From there the Seahawks do seem to have a great conditioning program and a strong on field organization. I agree that the Jets need to be more like this organization and similar ones (49ers, Ravens). Baldwin was wide open there. Good job Bevell. So you're saying that the Seahawks have a better organization, with better administration and better coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 The Jets do the opposite of this. Seriously- did anyone watch Milliner's film? Hills? Malcolm Jenkins from the Saints is someone Miliner should look at. Another former top CB prospect turned quality safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Everyone at Alabama is an All American.. that's virtually meaningless. I want to see matchups vs guys who project to to go pro. Knocking down passes thrown by Denard Robinson doesnt quite cut it. Alshon beating him off the line was a better indication. I'm thinking the fact that he's a freak athlete who played well enough to earn All American consideration every year he was on campus qualifies him as the size-speed guy with production that Gato was referencing. He's not some Combine superstar like Stephen Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Man that Rob Ryan is really showing his brothers replacement how dem Ryans invented defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm thinking the fact that he's a freak athlete who played well enough to earn All American consideration every year he was on campus qualifies him as the size-speed guy with pr He is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 He is? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ81bZV7TY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1rQ81bZV7TY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Doug Baldwin is better than anyone we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 " hey Rob,..boyitellya and stuff,..Idzick really loves that Bevell guy and that type of thing...it would really like help my cause and stuff if you didn't let him stomp a mud hole in you tonight and stuff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 So you're saying that the Seahawks have a better organization, with better administration and better coaching. I'll give better organization with better administration, but eh on the coaching. Wilson, like any high quality QB, is the difference in the on field organization to me. Mostly I want to know how they go about picking players and putting together the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ81bZV7TY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1rQ81bZV7TY I meant on the field. Hill's sport science Im sure broke the stop watch. What was his 10 yard split time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'll give better organization with better administration, but eh on the coaching. Wilson, like any high quality QB, is the difference in the on field organization to me. Mostly I want to know how they go about picking players and putting together the roster. I think the trick is, they pick some players and then the coach, assuming that rookie NFL players might struggle with the transition to the pros, conceives of and oversees a program that teaches them how to play at that level. It's revolutionary, I know, but it's something worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The Jets beat the Saints but the Seahawks are destroying them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I meant on the field. Hill's sport science Im sure broke the stop watch. What was his 10 yard split time? Milliner's problem isn't his athleticism. It's his miserable technique and his sh*t-level confidence. The entire Jets team (outside of two players) has sucked this year. Cromartie has been as bad as Milliner. I'm just saying, the problem is bigger than one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Milliner's problem isn't his athleticism. It's his miserable technique and his sh*t-level confidence. The entire Jets team (outside of two players) has sucked this year. Cromartie has been as bad as Milliner. I'm just saying, the problem is bigger than one guy. Poor coaching week after week its the same mistakes by the same players. Rex is done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'll give better organization with better administration, but eh on the coaching. Wilson, like any high quality QB, is the difference in the on field organization to me. Mostly I want to know how they go about picking players and putting together the roster. Does Wilson play special teams? Because based on the stats they just threw out there for punt return coverage, I'd say maybe the coaching is better than just "derp the QB makes them look better derp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I think the trick is, they pick some players and then the coach, assuming that rookie NFL players might struggle with the transition to the pros, conceives of and oversees a program that teaches them how to play at that level. It's revolutionary, I know, but it's something worth checking out. I agree - they're great at defining roles for players and expanding the role steadily as the player grows. Irvin was drafted as a situation pass rusher for his rookie year before expanding it his second year (sounds familiar). OTOH, this isn't nearly as easy to do on offense without a QB playing well. Then there's getting Marshawn Lynch's prime for pennies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Brees is killin me here, wtf lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 So sick of Gruden talking about developing cornerbacks. What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 So sick of Gruden talking about developing cornerbacks. What does that even mean? It means paying Revis would have ruined the future. Teehee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 So sick of Gruden talking about developing cornerbacks. What does that even mean? Picking them in round 5 and turning them into studs vs. picking them in round 1 and having them ruin your season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Brees is killin me here, wtf lol Ive got Wilson in and im down by 16 points as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Picking them in round 5 and turning them into studs vs. picking them in round 1 and having them ruin your season. Just lucky draft picks if you ask me. Rex is a defensive genius who makes his guys better, that's why we can't fire him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Just lucky draft picks if you ask me. Rex is a defensive genius who makes his guys better, that's why we can't fire him Yeah!!!!! Bart Scott, Mike DeVito...something something something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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