Bleedin Green Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Manziel's pro day is tomorrow btw. Should be a big news story either way. But for anyone who thought he might be there at 18, that's not gonna happen. He's going top 5 most likely. I certainly hope so, that way the Jets will never even have to think about it. The more time goes by the more I'm thinking he's going to end up as a rich man's Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What are Johnny's red flags? Did he steal a laptop or something (Cam Newton) Not a polished product, loves the limelight, likes to party, a bit of a polarizing figure, boom or bust prospect. Caldwell is very conservative. He's going to go with more a sure shot. He doesnt care about selling tickets or making headlines. I mocked them to Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Give away a pick and Simms for a long, long term project? They're not carrying 4 QBs and not cutting Simms I'd rather take a 7th round flyer on Thomas than Simms. Simms is nothing more than a career backup and while Thomas has regressed terribly, that's the type of talent I'd rather try to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Not a polished product, loves the limelight, likes to party, a bit of a polarizing figure, boom or bust prospect. Caldwell is very conservative. He's going to go with more a sure shot. He doesnt care about selling tickets or making headlines. I mocked them to Mack. yeah but it's not Caldwell's pick to make. It's this guy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The more time goes by the more I'm thinking he's going to end up as a rich man's Tebow. it's like if Tebow could actually play QB. The guy is gonna sell a million jerseys and this is entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 yeah but it's not Caldwell's pick to make. It's this guy's. Wrong. Its 100% Caldwell's pick. Shad doesnt get involved. Maybe you dont remember the whole Tebow thingy. Shad wanted to bring him in but Caldwell refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Bring him in for a day. Sit him down at a desk. Make him take the LSAT, while throwing frisbees and beanbags at him constantly. If he gets over a 150, sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 34 years I've been living a lie. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Maybe you dont remember the whole Tebow thingy. Shad wanted to bring him in but Caldwell refused. even if that's true the 3 pick is usually an owner level decision. signing a street FA is plebe stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 even if that's true the 3 pick is usually an owner level decision. signing a street FA is plebe stuff. They took a tackle last year. The level of investment on a street FA vs a 3rd overall pick is night and day. Just doesn't seem like a pick Caldwell makes. But what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What are Johnny's red flags? Did he steal a laptop or something (Cam Newton) Not being that good at football is a pretty big red flag for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I will be absolutely stunned if he didn't. Besides the fact that the latest Super Bowl champion QB is about the same height, this player led an outgunned team to beat undefeated Alabama. He's also a huge star and will completely re-vitalize a team like Cleveland, Oakland or Jacksonville. He should go Houston but they are probably too chicken to pull that trigger. A few guys have claimed he looks awful on the coaches tape and stated so on various media outlets. He's definitely not the #1 pick and I think he falls pretty far compared to where he was projected to go a month ago. One ESPN guy (name escapes me) actually called him a 6th round project. Same guy was also down on Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Best player in this draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Not being that good at football is a pretty big red flag for some. Sorry - but I feel Johnny is going to be a great success at the next level - what I've seen of him in game action is remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Sorry - but I feel Johnny is going to be a great success at the next level - what I've seen of him in game action is remarkable. Fair enough, but I've been on record for two years wholeheartedly disagreeing. I saw LSU show the blueprint into beating him and making him look almost undraftable. I also think he has poor arm strength and will have difficult at the next level throwing the intermediate and deep throws when he's unable to scramble out of the pocket. Additionally, I see him looking to leave a clean pocket much earlier than he needs to, sometimes when he doesn't have to at all. Only time will tell, but I firmly believe that any team that drafts him in the first round expecting a star is going to not only be extremely disappointed, but set their franchise back a few years, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'd rather take a 7th round flyer on Thomas than Simms. Simms is nothing more than a career backup and while Thomas has regressed terribly, that's the type of talent I'd rather try to develop. With Thomas you pray he is good enough to be a backup QB. As you said Simms is already that, no need to waste the pick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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