Obrien2Toon Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 He's one of the best, but I think if you put Peyton with Beli and those teams, they win 6 titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 He's one of the best, but I think if you put Peyton with Beli and those teams, they win 6 titles. That's laughable right there. Manning has a lifetime losing record in the playoffs. What makes you possibly think he would all of a sudden start winning on those Patriots teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Are you sh*tting me? Montana had the best WR that ever played the game and a great NFL Mind Coaching him, and a damn good O around him. His support was so good, his backup is a Hall of Famer. Tom Brady had a bunch of midget white guys, a generally run-of-the-mill Defense and a D-Co Head Coach. When I say it's not even close, it's not even close. Montana is an all time great. Brady is the GOAT. Is this more silly Jet Fan foolishness, like saying the guy banging a super model is "gay"? It has to be. Well... Brady plays in the AFC East. The weakest NFL division in the last 15 years. I happen to think Brady is 1 or 2 so I am not arguing but Montana played great teams. Giants, Skins, Cowboys , Bears, we're all great back then. Montanas comeback against the Bengals was as good as any Brady comeback. BUT... No doubt, Brady is the reason the Pats won the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Are you sh*tting me? Montana had the best WR that ever played the game and a great NFL Mind Coaching him, and a damn good O around him. His support was so good, his backup is a Hall of Famer. Tom Brady had a bunch of midget white guys, a generally run-of-the-mill Defense and a D-Co Head Coach. When I say it's not even close, it's not even close. Montana is an all time great. Brady is the GOAT. Is this more silly Jet Fan foolishness, like saying the guy banging a super model is "gay"? It has to be. 1) This is more or less what i think. I view Walsh as being in a way different league then the cheater, he changed the nfl forever and his offenses were a step ahead of defenses of the time. The fact that Young came in and played just as well dings Montana a bit 2) lmao at the bolded, it's so true. Most of the guys here would wear lingerie in public if Gisele was letting them rut on her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 He's one of the best, but I think if you put Peyton with Beli and those teams, they win 6 titles. That's laughable right there. Manning has a lifetime losing record in the playoffs. What makes you possibly think he would all of a sudden start winning on those Patriots teams? I hate it when people serve up meatballs to the TxBot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well... Brady plays in the AFC East. The weakest NFL division in the last 15 years. I happen to think Brady is 1 or 2 so I am not arguing but Montana played great teams. Giants, Skins, Cowboys , Bears, we're all great back then. Montanas comeback against the Bengals was as good as any Brady comeback. BUT... No doubt, Brady is the reason the Pats won the SB. OMG Pete Carroll hands off ball to Lynch and now wonderful tommy is 3-3 in SB's QBs were not protected in Montana's era, could get crushed 2 seconds after release of ball. Brady would be in a body bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 OMG Pete Carroll hands off ball to Lynch and now wonderful tommy is 3-3 in SB's Blah, blah, blah. Teree doesn't make a fluke catch and Welker doesn't drop that pass, Brady is 6-0 in a Super Bow games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 OMG Pete Carroll hands off ball to Lynch and now wonderful tommy is 3-3 in SB's QBs were not protected in Montana's era, could get crushed 2 seconds after release of ball. Brady would be in a body bag You realize Montana is 2 inches and 20 lbs smaller then brady? And the speed and strength ratios of NFL defenders are dwarfed by what is out there today. You have safeties out there that can bench more then the average NFL lb back then, and Dlineman that can run faster then them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Blah, blah, blah. Teree doesn't make a fluke catch and Welker doesn't drop that pass, Brady is 6-0 in a Super Bow games. Sherman Kam and Thomas all played with significant injuries and they lost Lane in 1st 5 minutes of game, ya tommy was so spot on throwing 11 passes to ben vereen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You realize Montana is 2 inches and 20 lbs smaller then brady? And the speed and strength ratios of NFL defenders are dwarfed by what is out there today. You have safeties out there that can bench more then the average NFL lb back then, and Dlineman that can run faster then them. Brady takes very few hits, in the old days his flops wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Sherman Kam and Thomas all played with significant injuries and they lost Lane in 1st 5 minutes of game, ya tommy was so spot on throwing 11 passes to ben vereen When the Pats were down 10 points in the 4th quarter, Brady went 13-15, 128 yards and 2 TD's leading the Pats to the greatest 4th quarter comeback in the history of the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 When the Pats were down 10 points in the 4th quarter, Brady went 13-15, 128 yards and 2 TD's leading the Pats to the greatest 4th quarter comeback in the history of the Super Bowl. they were gifted game asshat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 they were gifted game asshat Sure they were assmop. You have really gotten dumb in your old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Sure they were assmop. You have really gotten dumb in your old age. and you are blind, every fan who has a brain, knows that carroll gave game away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 When the Pats were down 10 points in the 4th quarter, Brady went 13-15, 128 yards and 2 TD's leading the Pats to the greatest 4th quarter comeback in the history of the Super Bowl. they were gifted game asshat you realize you can both be right here? Brady did play awesome and brought his team back, then Belicheats defense was on the verge of choking when Bevel happened and gifted the game back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 you realize you can both be right here? Brady did play awesome and brought his team back, then Belicheats defense was on the verge of choking when Bevel happened and gifted the game back Had bevel/carroll not gifted game, Belicheat would have been crucified for not taking TO's and Tommy would have been criticized for losing 3 straight SB's throwing 2 Ints, one in redzone and the other giving sea 7 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Had bevel/carroll not gifted game, Belicheat would have been crucified for not taking TO's and Tommy would have been criticized for losing 3 straight SB's throwing 2 Ints, one in redzone and the other giving sea 7 points Too bad that didn't happen. Bottom line, Brady and the Pats won their 4th Super Bowl in 14 years. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanPatsFan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 His stats are pretty bad when he's under pressure. In the old, non-sissy NFL, the Cheatriots wouldn't have even made it into the AFC Championship game. Yeah, I'm sure the 69 Jets would have destroyed these Patriots...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas and a host of others say hi! Brady was the GOAT before the Seahawks coaches decided to throw it on the 9 inch line instead of running it with Lynch. Montana won before free agency. He was able to have the same team the entire 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Had bevel/carroll not gifted game, Belicheat would have been crucified for not taking TO's and Tommy would have been criticized for losing 3 straight SB's throwing 2 Ints, one in redzone and the other giving sea 7 points And Brady would still be the greatest a qb ever anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operaguy Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 That's laughable right there. Manning has a lifetime losing record in the playoffs. What makes you possibly think he would all of a sudden start winning on those Patriots teams? Laughable? You really have to cut it out with your overstated perspective on all things football. Most people have enough humility to acknowledge that counterfactual scenarios like the one you denigrated might have produced more productive outcomes. Most people entertain theories presented by other posters in a thoughtful and respectful manner. You just disagree in an unqualified manner with anyone who does not agree with your perspective. People that are unwilling to entertain the opinions of others and at least consider the various merits associated with their view should spend more time addressing their autism with a specialist and less time ranting on a Jets Fan Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 You realize Montana is 2 inches and 20 lbs smaller then brady? And the speed and strength ratios of NFL defenders are dwarfed by what is out there today. You have safeties out there that can bench more then the average NFL lb back then, and Dlineman that can run faster then them. Nice post Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Too bad that didn't happen. Bottom line, Brady and the Pats won their 4th Super Bowl in 14 years. Get over it. He cant and whats worse for him is that Bama is all done now that Meyer is at Ohio State. Nick Satan may as well begin packing his bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Brady was the GOAT before the Seahawks coaches decided to throw it on the 9 inch line instead of running it with Lynch. Montana won before free agency. He was able to have the same team the entire 1980's. No Brady was not. I'm not saying he's not great or doesn't belong in the HOF - I'm just saying he's not in my top 5 of all time great QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 When the Pats were down 10 points in the 4th quarter, Brady went 13-15, 128 yards and 2 TD's leading the Pats to the greatest 4th quarter comeback in the history of the Super Bowl. Seattle was averaging 15.9 points on defense per game. NE hung 14 points on Seattle in 1 quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Had bevel/carroll not gifted game, Belicheat would have been crucified for not taking TO's and Tommy would have been criticized for losing 3 straight SB's throwing 2 Ints, one in redzone and the other giving sea 7 points Carrol panicked when BB didn't call a timeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I have no respect for anyone who puts a cheat on that high a platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 you realize you can both be right here? Brady did play awesome and brought his team back, then Belicheats defense was on the verge of choking when Bevel happened and gifted the game back Belichicks defense held Seattle to a FG in the 3rd quarter by stuffing Lynch on 3rd and 1. Huge play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I have no respect for anyone who puts a cheat on that high a platform Mets fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Laughable? You really have to cut it out with your overstated perspective on all things football. Most people have enough humility to acknowledge that counterfactual scenarios like the one you denigrated might have produced more productive outcomes. Most people entertain theories presented by other posters in a thoughtful and respectful manner. You just disagree in an unqualified manner with anyone who does not agree with your perspective. People that are unwilling to entertain the opinions of others and at least consider the various merits associated with their view should spend more time addressing their autism with a specialist and less time ranting on a Jets Fan Forum. MrsPatsFaxTX just dragged me along to see that stupid movie 50 colors or something. It gave me a headache. This post made it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Laughable? You really have to cut it out with your overstated perspective on all things football. Most people have enough humility to acknowledge that counterfactual scenarios like the one you denigrated might have produced more productive outcomes. Most people entertain theories presented by other posters in a thoughtful and respectful manner. You just disagree in an unqualified manner with anyone who does not agree with your perspective. People that are unwilling to entertain the opinions of others and at least consider the various merits associated with their view should spend more time addressing their autism with a specialist and less time ranting on a Jets Fan Forum. He roots for the Patriots, it means he is an expert in all things NFL cause he's been learning from the best for 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 OMG Pete Carroll hands off ball to Lynch and now wonderful tommy is 3-3 in SB's QBs were not protected in Montana's era, could get crushed 2 seconds after release of ball. Brady would be in a body bag Arguing that Brady is not great is simply ridiculous. He almost single handed won that SB. Throwing to a 7th rounder and a converted QB. Please stop...you are embarrassing yourself. I hate the sparkle pony but he is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Arguing that Brady is not great is simply ridiculous. He almost single handed won that SB. Throwing to a 7th rounder and a converted QB. Please stop...you are embarrassing yourself. I hate the sparkle pony but he is a beast. Who said he wasn't a good QB? He is not greatest ever, and his game only does well in PUSSIFIED era. He is a dink and dunk specialist that has relied on cheating and deflated footballs. and he should be 3-3 in SB's thanks to idiotic seahawks coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Who said he wasn't a good QB? He is not greatest ever, and his game only does well in PUSSIFIED era. He is a dink and dunk specialist that has relied on cheating and deflated footballs. and he should be 3-3 in SB's thanks to idiotic seahawks coaching staff Sure he is the GOAT. No QB in the history of the NFL took his team to 6 Super Bowls, winning 4 of them. If it weren't for 2 fluke plays, Brady is 6-0 in Super Bowl games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Who said he wasn't a good QB? He is not greatest ever, and his game only does well in PUSSIFIED era. He is a dink and dunk specialist that has relied on cheating and deflated footballs. and he should be 3-3 in SB's thanks to idiotic seahawks coaching staff OK.... so a QB who made it to 6 SBs is a dink and dunker??? His yardage year in year out put him at the top of all time. But OK... he is a dink and dunker. Who is better???? I, not saying he is number one, but at worst he is 3 and IMO, he is NOT 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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