did jets really get the most value out of the NFL draft, among all teams ? ?...one study says yes ~ ~ ~

[kelly]

We all know that grading an NFL team's draft right after it happens is a fool's errand, if you take such grading seriously.Still, after the Jets finished their 2015 draft earlier this month, we posted a couple "just for fun" lists of grades — here and here.

 

Really, though, you need two to three years to properly and accurately grade a draft class. So in addition to those 2015 grades, we also circled back and graded the Jets' 2012 draft.But what if there was a way, for 2015 draft picks, to assess the relative value and efficiency of a team's draft, beyond just arbitrary letter grades? Might we really be able to determine how well a team drafted, compared to the NFL's other 31 organizations ? No immediate draft grading system is perfect, of course, but RotoViz conducted a neat exercise after the draft. And it determined that the Jets got the most value out of this draft, among all NFL teams.

 

Following the Jets, in these ratings, were the Falcons, Bears, Jaguars and Vikings. The worst value grades went to the Titans, Panthers and Eagles, with Philadelphia coming in last. (Or maybe Eagles coach Chip Kelly just sees something the rest of us don't, as he scouts draft prospects.)

 

Here's essentially how RotoViz's analysis worked: The website used NFL.com's prospect scouting grades, in combination with where players were actually picked, to determine whether a player was picked above or below his expected slot.Now, this doesn't factor the necessary filling of positional needs into a team's drafting acumen. And naturally, teams' internal scouting of players isn't going to match up with NFL.com's ratings, even if teams are operating on the "take the best player available, regardless of position" method. The draft — as if you didn't know this already — is a subjective, unscientific process that is largely a crapshoot. It takes a lot of luck.

 

Considering all those caveats, RotoViz rates the Jets as having milked the most value out of this draft — largely because they picked defensive end Leonard Williams sixth overall and offensive guard Jarvis Harrison in the fifth round. In short, the RotoViz analysis concluded that both players should've gone higher, based on their scouting grades.A lot of people were surprised Williams fell to the Jets at No. 6. Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan basically said Williams was a no-brainer pick, once the Jets saw he was available. Williams was widely regarded as the most talented defensive player in this draft.Harrison is a more interesting, less-heralded potential value pick. It's likely that he fell to Round 5 because of concerns about his work ethic. By most accounts, he has the talent and physical attributes to play in the NFL. But is he willing to put in the work required of a starting offensive lineman in this league ?

 

When considering this question, Jets coach Todd Bowles offered a good summary of how teams weigh these risks, while attempting to maximize their value in the draft."Some games, [Harrison] played harder than others, but you can probably pull out any college player going into the pros that has done that at some point in time," Bowles said. "Jarvis is a big guy. He's not going to go out and run 400 meters in 47, 48 seconds. Obviously, the better shape he's in, the better he can play. He has a chance, for where we got him, to be a value pick. He has to show that he's more than that type of [lazy] player. We thought it was worth the gamble to take on him."

 

> http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/05/did_jets_really_get_the_most_value_out_of_the_nfl.html

[BroadwayRay]

If they stick to this approach over the long run, and not act impulsively the way Tannenbaum did, the Jets will be in good shape in the years ahead, no matter how this year's draft class turns out.  

[Obrien2Toon]

Saw this, imagine if we took Harold in 3rd and Ifo in 7th like most here wanted. We would've blew this thing away

Though we wouldn't have gotten Harrison with the extra pick who graded out really well

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

This analysis is kind of stupid. The value of picks relative to each other is irrelevant once the picks turn into players.

[Jetsfan80]

This analysis is kind of stupid. The value of picks relative to each other is irrelevant once the picks turn into players.

 

Especially since the basis for their system are NFL.com's prospect ratings.  Any one of us could have done an analysis like this in the matter of a few hours.

 

I did like Maccagnan's style when it came to his picks though.  I feel confident we did in fact have a quality draft.  It had a nice mixture of "safe picks" and "upside picks", and we weren't reaching like crazy for anyone just to fill a need.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Too early to tell. We will see.

 

Jaelen Strong /Eli Harold/ or one of the RB's would have made this draft a lot more better.

 

But as always we will have to wait atleast a season two or three seasons before we can tell.

 

If Mauldin and Harrison become legit starter's and Bryce Petty comes along this has the potential to be a KILLER draft. But right i would temper my excitement. Time will tell.

[SMC]

It pays to have a personnel guy as GM.

[RutgersJetFan]

This analysis is kind of stupid. The value of picks relative to each other is irrelevant once the picks turn into players.

why do you have to constantly complain god i mean really

[smaxor5]

This analysis is kind of stupid. The value of picks relative to each other is irrelevant once the picks turn into players.

Did you expect a draft grading analysis 2 weeks after the draft took place not to be?

[TuscanyTile2]

This analysis is kind of stupid. The value of picks relative to each other is irrelevant once the picks turn into players.

Plus nobody really knows at this point

[slats]

The biggest complaint about the draft seemed to be the trade down and its implications. If Mauldin is on par (or better) with Harold or O.O., and Harrison develops into a full time starter, that trade down will've been one of the best moments of the draft for Maccagnan.

Excited about Williams, too, but that was pure luck and bad moves by a couple teams ahead of them. Kudos for not getting cute and taking the best player in the class, though.

[Jetsfan80]

Excited about Williams, too, but that was pure luck and bad moves by a couple teams ahead of them. Kudos for not getting cute and taking the best player in the class, though.

 

Yep.  After many years of the Jets whiffing on the "obvious" choice, it was nice to see we weren't scared to take the best player in the draft at a position where we had zero need.  In that way the pick was kind of ballsy.  And if he works out like we hope he will, it would be hard to give this draft anything lower than a "C" two-three years down the road.

[kelly]

Too early to tell. We will see.

 

Jaelen Strong /Eli Harold/ or one of the RB's would have made this draft a lot more better.

 

But as always we will have to wait atleast a season two or three seasons before we can tell.

 

If Mauldin and Harrison become legit starter's and Bryce Petty comes along this has the potential to be a KILLER draft. But right i would temper my excitement. Time will tell.

 

"  Too early to tell. We will see...  "..

 

~ ~ exactly ! ..I'm keepin' my fingers crossed