Bocajetfan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 You people mostly come from NY and NJ and you're acting like gambling and bookies and the like are so foreign to other locales outside of Vegas. It's pearl clutching at its finest. As far as a home crowd goes, I give you every pro sports team in the state of Florida. Florida teams loose home field generally 3 games a year. Most NFL teams look for luxury boxes as cream for revenue. Can a team in Vegas sellout for them to realize that cream or would those boxes need to sellout for them to sustain themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No teams want to be in Vegas( a lot of money to be made), but the leagues have resisted because of the sports betting .( Jersey is going to vote on allowing sports betting- when that happens can't deny the Raiders on the same ground. They are going to build the Unlv running rebels a 1 billion dollar state of the art stadium- will put to shame Jerry Jones Stadium.( a lot of cheap labor in Vegas- a billion goes way way further in Vegas than NY/NJ . Not to mention a dime won't come out of Mark Davis pocket to build. Those football games will be sell outs every week. if jersey allows sports betting it will likely just be parlays like they do in Delaware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 dude Oakland can't pay their police department how the hell could that broken city afford to pay for a stadium? Bonds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Bonds. Oakland has 1 cop for every 200 residents it would be asinine for them to pay for a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oakland has 1 cop for every 200 residents it would be asinine for them to pay for a stadium. No disagreement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 why would they loan them more at one location and less at another? Thought the league loaned up to $150 mil for a stadium project, why $300 mil? When did they change it up? The reason given is that they want them in San Diego. A state of the art stadium in San Diego means they have one more city they can play the Superbowl in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The reason given is that they want them in San Diego. A state of the art stadium in San Diego means they have one more city they can play the Superbowl in. they can just play the super bowl in the stadium Kroenke is building in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The reason given is that they want them in San Diego. A state of the art stadium in San Diego means they have one more city they can play the Superbowl in. This doesn't make a lot of sense though. How does one more city help the league or the other owners? If they play the game in SD, LA, SF etc who cares? One extra city doesn't bring in more money. So still not getting why they doubled the size of the loan compared to what they've been doing for others. Makes more sense that they're giving incentive to stay in SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 they can just play the super bowl in the stadium Kroenke is building in LA The columnist also, not seriously, said that they can play the Superbowl only in the new stadium once built. Probably want variety. This doesn't make a lot of sense though. How does one more city help the league or the other owners? If they play the game in SD, LA, SF etc who cares? One extra city doesn't bring in more money. So still not getting why they doubled the size of the loan compared to what they've been doing for others. Makes more sense that they're giving incentive to stay in SD. My SWAG is they want more TV markets. If Goodell is going to fully realize his goal of generating 25 billion dollars a year in revenue, then it probably helps more that there you can pull in a top 30 market. Again, only a SWAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The NFL wants to keep the SD and Oakland markets but if those cities can't pay for a new stadium the luxury boxes is where they make money in attendance. Vegas is not happening for any major pro sport. Joseph Randle got cut just for sports betting during the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The columnist also, not seriously, said that they can play the Superbowl only in the new stadium once built. Probably want variety. My SWAG is they want more TV markets. If Goodell is going to fully realize his goal of generating 25 billion dollars a year in revenue, then it probably helps more that there you can pull in a top 30 market. Again, only a SWAG. when did SD become a big media market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 when did SD become a big media market? SD = Southern California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 This will be interesting. No league has wanted a team in Vegas. Dont know why anyone would want to move to a city where the residents are mostly service workers, the base is made up of visitors and the city itself would be the 4th smallest market in the league. Build a winner and they will come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 SD = Southern California We're talking SD. SD is not a big time media market. And i dont get how a new stadium built with extra seed money from the NFL changes TV ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Build a winner and they will come! Unfortunately it doesnt work that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 when did SD become a big media market? No idea. Again, it is my SWAG. Maybe, TV execs look at two teams in a huge market like LA/NY as being better than 1 in LA and another in SD. No idea. With that being said, Oakland is usually wrapped up in SF and SJ as one market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 9 hours ago, PFSIKH said: No idea. Again, it is my SWAG. Maybe, TV execs look at two teams in a huge market like LA/NY as being better than 1 in LA and another in SD. No idea. With that being said, Oakland is usually wrapped up in SF and SJ as one market. Congrats. SWAG is now officially the most annoying acronym I've come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 16 hours ago, Jet Nut said: We're talking SD. SD is not a big time media market. And i dont get how a new stadium built with extra seed money from the NFL changes TV ratings. You don't understand. After the raiders and Rams left LA the Chargers became both LA and San Diego's team. Also, San Diego itself isn't big but it's surrounded by a high density area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 2 hours ago, drdetroit said: You don't understand. After the raiders and Rams left LA the Chargers became both LA and San Diego's team. Also, San Diego itself isn't big but it's surrounded by a high density area. And you dont get the question, what does how much they lend the Chargers, how nice the stadium is have to do with TV viewership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Jet9 said: Congrats. SWAG is now officially the most annoying acronym I've come across. You are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 They should move the Pats to Vegas and bury them in holes in the desert. You know, like the have with cheaters for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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