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24 minutes ago, MR.GANGGREEN28 said:

18-1 TD/INT vs 12-6 over final 8 games. Forget the stats though, I have a hard time believing anyone watched both QBs and walk away thinking they're even remotely close to each other in terms of talent and potential. There's gotta be better examples than this lol.

I hear you.  He did have a great run at the end there.  But buried in that is the glaring fact that he lost to the Giants.  That kind of wipes out all the good juju, doesn't it? ;)

 

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2 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Boy are the RaIDers going to prove these monkeys wrong! Gotta be at least 26th with Gardiner Golden Arm Minshew at the helm. 

The 49ers a couple years ago were predicting to be one of the worst teams, they went to the superbowl.  Not saying they are going to Super Bowl but they definitely should be playoff team.     It’s just laziness on the writers part as they just look at the qb position , and don’t look at the whole roster.   
The Raiders were the second best defense in football after AP took over the team. They added so much talent and depth to that defense.   On offense you look at the weapons they possess and I don’t care what qb they should be successful with so many weapons at their disposal. .       You have number 1 WrD  Adams , 1b Jakobi Meyer - top fifteen wr in the league - been without doubt the best wr in Raiders camp .( third string qb) Tre Tucker - going to be star and is the most importantly Raider. ( one fastest guys in football)  Top three wr  are as good as any trio.    Tightend room the best in the NFL.   B Bowers, M Mayer , and Harrison Bryant are all Mackey award winners.  Offense line should be top notch when fully healthy.   Lt K Miller and Lg Jackson Powers Johnson( left side should be as good as anyone) c A James is top 10 center especially in this blocking scheme.   RgParham and Rt Munford .  wouldn’t be surprised rookie Dj Glaze beats out Munford for Rt.   ( third rounder has been impressive all camp. Better pass protector, and fits the scheme better. 

Rb . The most impressive specimen Zamir “Zeus “ white at rb .  4.4 speed  show himself that they were comfortable to let Jacob’s leave.    a Mathison - second back , d Laube becomes third down back at some point.

QB G Minshew - this the best weapons he has ever played with.   He doesn’t have to win anything .   He just needs to make the routine plays, and don’t try to be a her0. ( don’t leave the pocket when protection there)   Don’t be Jimmy G and throw medicine balls where you get receiver killed. 
The defense will keep you in every game .     Starting week one everyone will see what this team possess on offense, defense, and special teams.  
 

Btw - as a Jet fan you know the Jets do better when no one counting on them to do anything.  Not so good- when people expecting good things. 

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4 hours ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

I love how the packers are some juggernaut but won 2 more games than the Boyle Wilson  jets last year with supposedly an elite QB and a soft schedule. 
 

That’s just one more game than the 2022 packers with rogers playing with an injured thumb (and a tougher schedule) 

Love hyped 2023 stats 

3,000 passing yards, 24 TDs 12 INTs

Rogers decline year with hurt thumb 

3700 yards, 26 TDs 12 INTs

To be fair, Rodgers had Allen Lazard!!!!

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18 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

The 49ers a couple years ago were predicting to be one of the worst teams, they went to the superbowl.  Not saying they are going to Super Bowl but they definitely should be playoff team.     It’s just laziness on the writers part as they just look at the qb position , and don’t look at the whole roster.   
The Raiders were the second best defense in football after AP took over the team. They added so much talent and depth to that defense.   On offense you look at the weapons they possess and I don’t care what qb they should be successful with so many weapons at their disposal. .       You have number 1 WrD  Adams , 1b Jakobi Meyer - top fifteen wr in the league - been without doubt the best wr in Raiders camp .( third string qb) Tre Tucker - going to be star and is the most importantly Raider. ( one fastest guys in football)  Top three wr  are as good as any trio.    Tightend room the best in the NFL.   B Bowers, M Mayer , and Harrison Bryant are all Mackey award winners.  Offense line should be top notch when fully healthy.   Lt K Miller and Lg Jackson Powers Johnson( left side should be as good as anyone) c A James is top 10 center especially in this blocking scheme.   RgParham and Rt Munford .  wouldn’t be surprised rookie Dj Glaze beats out Munford for Rt.   ( third rounder has been impressive all camp. Better pass protector, and fits the scheme better. 

Rb . The most impressive specimen Zamir “Zeus “ white at rb .  4.4 speed  show himself that they were comfortable to let Jacob’s leave.    a Mathison - second back , d Laube becomes third down back at some point.

QB G Minshew - this the best weapons he has ever played with.   He doesn’t have to win anything .   He just needs to make the routine plays, and don’t try to be a her0. ( don’t leave the pocket when protection there)   Don’t be Jimmy G and throw medicine balls where you get receiver killed. 
The defense will keep you in every game .     Starting week one everyone will see what this team possess on offense, defense, and special teams.  
 

Btw - as a Jet fan you know the Jets do better when no one counting on them to do anything.  Not so good- when people expecting good things. 

Well, I have to admit I asked for it. :)

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