TSZ Mike Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Rookie wide receiver Calvin Johnson signed a six-year deal Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 This is good news for MT, if a #2 pick can sign a 6 year deal ,Than so can Revis This should allow MT to have a upper hand on Revis' Agent no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 All 5 1st rounders who signed 6 year deals were in the Top 10 though, Revis is at 14. As for the Lions getting Calvin in camp, good for them. They have a very good 1-3 in Roy Williams, Calvin & Mike Furrey. Furrey in the slot should be even better with Williams & Calvin getting all of the attention on the outside. I don't see 10 wins for Detroit, but around .500 at 6-10, 7-9, isn't out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSZ Mike Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 All 5 1st rounders who signed 6 year deals were in the Top 10 though, Revis is at 14. As for the Lions getting Calvin in camp, good for them. They have a very good 1-3 in Roy Williams, Calvin & Mike Furrey. Furrey in the slot should be even better with Williams & Calvin getting all of the attention on the outside. I don't see 10 wins for Detroit, but around .500 at 6-10, 7-9, isn't out of the question. Revis will be in soon I am sure usually this stuff always happens the first week. Just a matter of time. If Detroit's defense can be decent the Lions can surprise this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Revis will be in soon I am sure usually this stuff always happens the first week. Just a matter of time. I still remember Keyshawn holding out for the first 3 weeks of camp in '96. This is kind of reminding me, although with Key it wasn't about the length of the contract, still kind of similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 detroit will win their division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSZ Mike Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 I still remember Keyshawn holding out for the first 3 weeks of camp in '96. This is kind of reminding me, although with Key it wasn't about the length of the contract, still kind of similar.I really do not see Revis holding out. I really can not think of a DB that has held out. But my mind is small and forgets things quickly detroit will win their division. bold prediction there. Detroit could and should at least be able to take the off there head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 i have a hunch chicago will fall, as do all superbowl losers these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 i have a hunch chicago will fall, as do all superbowl losers these days Like Seattle last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Like Seattle last season? they went 9-7 sure they won a playoff game but still, they weren't superbowl bound and alexander had a downyear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I really do not see Revis holding out. I really can not think of a DB that has held out. But my mind is small and forgets things quickly bold prediction there. Detroit could and should at least be able to take the off there head here's a tip to give the illusion of a bigger mind mike..... simply post right after shasta or patriot rain. I dissagree with all who say it's ok for revis to miss camp cause he's a cornerback. he needs to be in there now if he's gonna contribute in the early weeks. however this situation has an upside in that miller is benifitting tremendously by this holdout. kendall? I really am not bothered. brick & mangold don't need a mentor this year, they need clarke to step up & gel with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 they went 9-7 sure they won a playoff game but still, they weren't superbowl bound and alexander had a downyear Maybe its because both Alexander and Hasselbeck missed games? I think Matt missed 3 or 4 and Alexander 4 or 5? That will definitely have an impact on your record, as well as a surging San Francisco team. Cannot wait for the race for the NFC West this year, and I'm being serious. This division keeps getting better. San Franciso is on the rise, Seattle is still solid, St.Louis added some playmakers on both sides of the ball and Arizona has lots of young talent. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 detroit will win their division. It won't suprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 so are you telling me seattle did better or something? i stand by what i said, they declined last year regardless of why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 so are you telling me seattle did better or something? i stand by what i said, they declined last year regardless of why. That has nothing to do with the other 5 Super Bowl losers before them who missed the playoffs. Yes their record was worse but they also had injuries to their 2 best players and still not only made the playoffs but won their division. Whether you want to admit that or not, it is the truth. Seattle will rebound this season with a 10-6 or 11-5 effort, especially with a full off-season for Deion Branch in the system, who is filling in for Darrell Jackson, who is now helping improve Alex Smith in San Francisco. Still can't see why Seattle would trade him to their biggest threat in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 That has nothing to do with the other 5 Super Bowl losers before them who missed the playoffs. Yes their record was worse but they also had injuries to their 2 best players and still not only made the playoffs but won their division. Whether you want to admit that or not, it is the truth. Seattle will rebound this season with a 10-6 or 11-5 effort, especially with a full off-season for Deion Branch in the system, who is filling in for Darrell Jackson, who is now helping improve Alex Smith in San Francisco. Still can't see why Seattle would trade him to their biggest threat in the West. umm the 2001 rams lost kurt warner the next year didnt they? the 2002 raiders lost gannon didn't they? i wont bother with the rest of the list. either way i'm intersted in watching the Lions offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 6 year deal..check it out Mr Revis..and get your backside to TC.......... ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 umm the 2001 rams lost kurt warner the next year didnt they? the 2002 raiders lost gannon didn't they? i wont bother with the rest of the list. either way i'm intersted in watching the Lions offense. What the hell kind of nonsense are your rambling about now? In 2002 the Rams starting Warner for just 7 games fell from 14-2 in '01 to just 7-9 in '02. Injuries, like in Seattle, played a key. In 2002, Rich Gannon started every game for Oakland on their way to an 11-5 season. Then in 2003 with Gannon starting just 7 games, they fell to 4-12. Injuries, like in Seattle, played a key, and Oakland has never been the same since. Seattle still made the playoffs AND won its division. They are still a powerhouse team that lost its two best players last season for numerous games. Hasselbeck missed 4; Alexander 6. With them healthy, Seattle would've easily won at least another 2 games to make themselves 11-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 What the hell kind of nonsense are your rambling about now? In 2002 the Rams starting Warner for just 7 games fell from 14-2 in '01 to just 7-9 in '02. Injuries, like in Seattle, played a key. In 2002, Rich Gannon started every game for Oakland on their way to an 11-5 season. Then in 2003 with Gannon starting just 7 games, they fell to 4-12. Injuries, like in Seattle, played a key, and Oakland has never been the same since. Seattle still made the playoffs AND won its division. They are still a powerhouse team that lost its two best players last season for numerous games. Hasselbeck missed 4; Alexander 6. With them healthy, Seattle would've easily won at least another 2 games to make themselves 11-5. basically what I'm saying is Chicago is gonig to go downhill, regardless of what the hell the reason will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 This is good news for MT, if a #2 pick can sign a 6 year deal ,Than so can Revis This should allow MT to have a upper hand on Revis' Agent no?? Doubtful. I doubt the Jets are offering Revis at pick #14 the kind of money Johnson is getting at pick#2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 who would have thought CJ would be signed before Revis? great job Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 bold prediction there. Detroit could and should at least be able to take the off there head Hahaha Either that or they will have another Millen man march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 who would have thought CJ would be signed before Revis? great job Jets Guess how many years too Tys? 6. Which means we have 5 1st round picks signed to 6 year deals. Get the picture Revis? If you out play your rookie contract in 4 or 5 years, you will get a new deal anyway. Now sign dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Guess how many years too Tys? 6. Which means we have 5 1st round picks signed to 6 year deals. Get the picture Revis? If you out play your rookie contract in 4 or 5 years, you will get a new deal anyway. Now sign dammit. Do you think the Jets are offering Revis the deal that CJ got? Hardly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Do you think the Jets are offering Revis the deal that CJ got? Hardly. It doesn't matter. If you out-play your rookie contract, after 4 or 5 years, you will get a new one, no matter if you sign a 5 or 6 year deal. Revis should sign the contract and get in camp. On his rookie contract alone he'd be able to retire after 5 or 6 years if he wanted too and live his life with a few mansions and a dozen cars. A rookie contract at 14 is something along the lines of $15 million with around $8-10 million guarenteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It doesn't matter. If you out-play your rookie contract, after 4 or 5 years, you will get a new one, no matter if you sign a 5 or 6 year deal. Revis should sign the contract and get in camp. On his rookie contract alone he'd be able to retire after 5 or 6 years if he wanted too and live his life with a few mansions and a dozen cars. A rookie contract at 14 is something along the lines of $15 million with around $8-10 million guarenteed. Somebody probably told that to Larry Johnson but forgot to tell the Chiefs front office. In the world of the NFL with no gauarenteed contracts and all the violent injuries, there is no way anyone is not going to look out for their interests. The teams do it pretty cold heartedly with how they cut people, why shouldn't the players look out for themselves. The money isn't going to dazzle the guy into playing an extra year because the jets want to strong arm him, he is the 14th pick, he is going to make the big bucks regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 My view on it is this: With $8-10 million guarenteed, you don't need to earn another dollar in your life if you know how to save money and not piss it all away. Sign the 6 year deal and if you out-play it, you will still get a new contract after 4 or 5 years, like everyone else who was signed to a 5 or 6 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 My view on it is this: With $8-10 million guarenteed, you don't need to earn another dollar in your life if you know how to save money and not piss it all away. Sign the 6 year deal and if you out-play it, you will still get a new contract after 4 or 5 years, like everyone else who was signed to a 5 or 6 year deal. 124, meet inflation, inflation, meet 124. You do know that older players who played for the nfl 20 years ago also made vastly more then the average joe, but when you factor in that there is a huge injury/paralysis risk, and the fact that you will have a significantly shorter life expectency and the real possibility of huge health care costs, it is foolish to not go for what you can while you can. Nobody here would disagree with the fact that Larry Johnson FAR outplayed his rookie contract, but the fact is he really outplayed too much, he took a lot of abuse and now the team, and most media experts, knows he only has 2-3 years at best, he still has 2 seasons to go on his 6 year deal so the Chiefs seem intent on running him into the ground, so you have a player who is arguably #1-2 in the league at rb who will be mostly washed up by the time he hits free agency. Sorry but the rosey picture of a player getting rewarded with heafty extensions early in their contract is the exception, not the rule. QB's really are the only ones who a team will bend over for in these cases. In the end, the Jets are asking Revis to take a deal drastically different then his peers in relatively close spots on the draft board did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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