DefenseWinsChampionships Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 D'Brickashaw Ferguson is far from a bust... A matter of fact, this is his 2nd season after starting all 16 games for us as a rookie last season... Today, Going up against one of the best DE's to ever play the game in J.Taylor who is still playing at a high level... Today... Today Ferguson will show us Jet fans that Mangini actually drafted a franchise LT. Growing pains... Yea last season he made some rookie mistakes, and this year we can all see that he's still in his sophmore season in the NFL... As an athlete, what dont kill you... Only makes you stronger... Brick will become a great LT for this Jets team for years to come... I have a feeling he proves it today at 1:00 all the way till 4:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 D'Brickashaw Ferguson is far from a bust... A matter of fact, this is his 2nd season after starting all 16 games for us as a rookie last season... Today, Going up against one of the best DE's to ever play the game in J.Taylor who is still playing at a high level... Today... Today Ferguson will show us Jet fans that Mangini actually drafted a franchise LT. Growing pains... Yea last season he made some rookie mistakes, and this year we can all see that he's still in his sophmore season in the NFL... As an athlete, what dont kill you... Only makes you stronger... Brick will become a great LT for this Jets team for years to come... I have a feeling he proves it today at 1:00 all the way till 4:00 He's not a bust DWC, but he's not far from a bust, did you see El Matador let your QB miss a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 The "bust" talk is ridiculous. I think there is still an 80% chance that D'Brick will become a dominating LT. Today is a good day to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 You can not expect a OT to come into the league as a rookie and start dominating-we just need to see some progress on him getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 He's not a bust DWC, but he's not far from a bust, did you see El Matador let your QB miss a game. lol lancemehl & I may not agree on a whole lot, but this is one of the things we do. D'Brick is starting every game for the following reasons only: 1) we drafted him 4th in the country 2) we gave him $18M in bonus money 3) there is no one else on the roster any better. Given the Jets' OL depth, that isn't saying much. Truthfully, he may not even be better at this point than Adrian Jones would have been if we stuck with him at left tackle (for what would be his 3rd season as starter by now). And yes, I know how bad Adrian Jones is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 lol lancemehl & I may not agree on a whole lot, but this is one of the things we do. D'Brick is starting every game for the following reasons only: 1) we drafted him 4th in the country 2) we gave him $18M in bonus money 3) there is no one else on the roster any better. Given the Jets' OL depth, that isn't saying much. Truthfully, he may not even be better at this point than Adrian Jones would have been if we stuck with him at left tackle (for what would be his 3rd season as starter by now). And yes, I know how bad Adrian Jones is. IMO he matches up well vs Jason Taylor as he is a finnesse rusher. Brick struggles IMO mainly vs Power linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 IMO he matches up well vs Jason Taylor as he is a finnesse rusher. Brick struggles IMO mainly vs Power linemen. Gotta agree with Sperm and LM, he's struggled against everyone - big and/or fast. I think he was drafted to handle the likes of Taylor so today would be a good day for him to play well and protect his QB. Its still too much to ask for him to open a seam in the running game ... I'll settle for a sackless Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 IMO he matches up well vs Jason Taylor as he is a finnesse rusher. Brick struggles IMO mainly vs Power linemen. Don't make it sound like D'Brick has single-handedly dominated Jason Taylor. Taylor didn't have any sacks last year against the Jets. I'm not sitting here with logs of game-tape, but I doubt they threw D'Brick out at Taylor with no help all game long for two games. The 2nd game, if I remember, was in crappy weather so I wouldn't expect Taylor to be a factor due to crappy traction. So now you're down to one game anyway. If one is going to start isolating single games as evidence of greatness or suckiness, Ferguson's detractors will have a lot more ammo than his greatest fans. Don't get me wrong. I want - very BADLY - for this guy to turn his game around. He's our left tackle for a while & no one wants to have to find another one. I hope he develops into what we dreamed he would be: a franchise left tackle that doesn't need other non-linemen to help rescue, and at least an average run-blocker. So far he is neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 One of the few bright spots for Miami today is Taylor going up against the Jets anemic left tackle. My prediction: D'slick gets taken to school by the Defensive Player of the Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Don't make it sound like D'Brick has single-handedly dominated Jason Taylor. Taylor didn't have any sacks last year against the Jets. I'm not sitting here with logs of game-tape, but I doubt they threw D'Brick out at Taylor with no help all game long for two games. The 2nd game, if I remember, was in crappy weather so I wouldn't expect Taylor to be a factor due to crappy traction. So now you're down to one game anyway. If one is going to start isolating single games as evidence of greatness or suckiness, Ferguson's detractors will have a lot more ammo than his greatest fans. Don't get me wrong. I want - very BADLY - for this guy to turn his game around. He's our left tackle for a while & no one wants to have to find another one. I hope he develops into what we dreamed he would be: a franchise left tackle that doesn't need other non-linemen to help rescue, and at least an average run-blocker. So far he is neither. Incredibly, I think you are being too kind. Didn't Taylor have two sacks in one game last year v Ferguson? Anyway, stats or not, Taylor has not been handled by Ferguson, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Incredibly, I think you are being too kind. Didn't Taylor have two sacks in one game last year v Ferguson? Anyway, stats or not, Taylor has not been handled by Ferguson, that's for sure. I simply don't remember the individual matchup between these two; don't have "tape" to look up & didn't feel like checking the nfl.com logs. I was relying on information from people drinking the D'Brick-ade. *edit* - ok, now I looked it up. 2006 week 6: Taylor had 1.0 sacks, 4 solo tackles, 3 assisted tackles 2007 week 16: Taylor had 1.0 sacks, 3 solo tackles, 0 assisted tackles (in the rain) On the season, Taylor had 13.5 sacks, 41 solo tackles, 21 assisted tackles So in 2 games (12.5% of the season), Taylor had: 2 of his 13.5 sacks (14.8%) 7 of his 41 solo tackles (17%) 3 of his 21 asst tackles (14%) On paper, Taylor had a better game statistically than he did against the average non-Jets opponent. To be fair though, Taylor was a premiere player & D'Brick was a rookie. Taylor may not have beaten D'Brick like a drum (as he did against Adrian Jones), but certainly the idea that D'Brick somehow dominated Taylor is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I just physically D'Brick Matches up better vs finnesse rushers rather than power ones. I think he may struggle with Taylor today though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 One of the few bright spots for Miami today is Taylor going up against the Jets anemic left tackle. My prediction: D'slick gets taken to school by the Defensive Player of the Year. Yea??? Nice call... lol Like I been saying... Brick is our Franchise LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_monkey Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Don't waste your breath DWC; crashingjet is always wrong, and apparently proud of it. I guess that's why he's a 'fins fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 It was an okay day for D'Brick vs. Taylor. Want to see what he does against Schobel next week, a guy whod doens't get a lot fo ink, but ate him alive last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I simply don't remember the individual matchup between these two; don't have "tape" to look up & didn't feel like checking the nfl.com logs. I was relying on information from people drinking the D'Brick-ade. *edit* - ok, now I looked it up. 2006 week 6: Taylor had 1.0 sacks, 4 solo tackles, 3 assisted tackles 2007 week 16: Taylor had 1.0 sacks, 3 solo tackles, 0 assisted tackles (in the rain) On the season, Taylor had 13.5 sacks, 41 solo tackles, 21 assisted tackles So in 2 games (12.5% of the season), Taylor had: 2 of his 13.5 sacks (14.8%) 7 of his 41 solo tackles (17%) 3 of his 21 asst tackles (14%) On paper, Taylor had a better game statistically than he did against the average non-Jets opponent. To be fair though, Taylor was a premiere player & D'Brick was a rookie. Taylor may not have beaten D'Brick like a drum (as he did against Adrian Jones), but certainly the idea that D'Brick somehow dominated Taylor is nonsense. Sperm, great post and I'm saying that AFTER Brick had a decent game against JT,but I just love a guy that does his homework and makes this forum credible at least. Or say, I don't know but,...... Not like that guy with the Chad vs. Ravens stuff just throwing phony facts around to help his warped opinion. Brick is NOT the LT we though we were getting at #4, BUT what I'm more ticked over is to go 4- Brick,then 29-Gold and then don't give pocket money to their glue,their mentor,their LG with nothing but a 6th rounder from Bartending school and a 7th to replace him. That's the travesty. But,let's fae it, Brick is not Orlando Pace or Steve Hutchinson or Richmond Webb, ya know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 It was an okay day for D'Brick vs. Taylor. Want to see what he does against Schobel next week, a guy whod doens't get a lot fo ink, but ate him alive last year. It was more than just an "OK" day for Brick... He had J.Taylor running on E. But I tell myself everyweek that Brick has to improve and show me something. I dont know about everyone else, but Brick showed me something today. And next week... He needs to show me he has improved from his rookie season... And actually shut down Schobel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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