CobraVerde Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 if the Mitchell report is true i'm curious to know if the hate hammer will drop as hard as it did on Bonds. Your thoughts?? and yes i know it say With instead of Will. A mod edit would be much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 No one really likes Roger Clemens, maybe except Suzyn Waldman and juice buddy Dandy Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Probably not. But he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Probably not. But he should. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 He should. Without a doubt. I think Mike and The Mad Dog said he had 218 wins before the time he was tied to steroids. He was pitching well but the bulk of this time he did stuff at an age that people generally faded. Same with Bonds. They made an already great player stay at a level longer than others have ever been able to do. Clemens is not a Hall Of Famer now. He was always out for himself (and I always liked him). So now he can have what he really wants. Time, money and his ego. But none of the three and getting into the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 no one will ever get hammered as hard as Bonds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 He deserves just as much s*** as Bonds got. No doubt. And I hope HOF voters keep this in mind when it comes time for HOF election. If they're going to give McGwire 23% of the vote they should be doing the same for Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I never liked roger, so **** him. I'm curious as to when pettite started juicing? I'm pretty sure it was after he was introduced to Roger, So was it his last season in pinstripes or his first season as an astro? The funny thing is that Pettite was better before he juiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I never liked roger, so **** him. I'm curious as to when pettite started juicing? I'm pretty sure it was after he was introduced to Roger, So was it his last season in pinstripes or his first season as an astro? The funny thing is that Pettite was better before he juiced. 2001 when he was hurt. After the Yankees stopped winning World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 2001 when he was hurt. After the Yankees stopped winning World Series. Ya, this doesnt taint the WS wins in any way, as far as im concerned. Taints Clemens career though, and its really a shame. He's like Bonds to me--a HOFer without steroids, but they both just wanted more. Unlikely others, Im rather surprised about Pettite. Always saw him as a real stand up guy, and it says a lot about how much this garbage has infected baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Clemens should get a lot of sh!t from this. And I wonder if God is OK with Andy's drug use??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I think he should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I think that Pettite did it to heal faster not to get bigger or stronger. I think Clemens did it to get that fastball back. Pettite, while still taking HGH, is the lesser of two evils... LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Clemens legacy and name is tarnished the same as Bonds. If you don't think so,Wait a month and see. This just makes me appreciate a guy like Jeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidhuman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 This just makes me appreciate a guy like Jeter. I thought it was shower time that made you appreciate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Everyone should get the same amount of grief that Bonds gets. The big difference though is that Bonds has been a prick his entire career, to the media, fans and his own teammates. If you are judging just on the steroids then all their numbers should be tainted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Nine of you Yankee homers voted no? LMAO! The poll said "if true", so if its true, why shouldnt he get as much grief as anyone? You are in the river of de nile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Nine of you Yankee homers voted no? LMAO! The poll said "if true", so if its true, why shouldnt he get as much grief as anyone? You are in the river of de nile. Heh, only 8 Yankee homers and a Sox fan that is just being honest. They could probably have pictures of him injecting the stuff and he wouldnt be as criticized as Bonds, for whatever reason. Probably because Bonds has always been a d-bag, and pretty hated by reporters and the public in general, while Clemens has kinda become loved the past few years, at least by a portion of the population. It should be noted that he deserves just as much as anyone else(including Bonds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Nine of you Yankee homers voted no? LMAO! The poll said "if true", so if its true, why shouldnt he get as much grief as anyone? You are in the river of de nile. Heh, only 8 Yankee homers and a Sox fan that is just being honest. They could probably have pictures of him injecting the stuff and he wouldnt be as criticized as Bonds, for whatever reason. Probably because Bonds has always been a d-bag, and pretty hated by reporters and the public in general, while Clemens has kinda become loved the past few years, at least by a portion of the population. It should be noted that he deserves just as much as anyone else(including Bonds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Yeah he SHOULD get as much beef as Bonds for sure. Will he? That's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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