124 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 ESPN.com http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3758183 Porter empathizes with Burress, defends athletes' need for guns ESPN.com news services Porter Defends Burress For Carrying A GunMiami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter had plenty to say when asked about New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress' latest troubles, and Porter can speak from experience. Porter, in an interview that will be aired Wednesday morning on "ESPN First Take" (10 a.m. ET, ESPN2), said some NFL players feel the need to have a firearm to defend themselves and their families, and that Burress, while caught in not "the smartest situation," has been unfairly portrayed in the media. "Plaxico is like a brother to me. I take it real personal how he's being treated," Porter said. "Everybody has their mistakes, but that's exactly what they are ... Until you've been in that situation, when you've been robbed at gunpoint or you've had a gun waved in your face or had your house broken into before or been carjacked, you really don't know what it's like." Burress was injured in the early morning hours of Nov. 29 when a .40-caliber Glock he was carrying in his waistband slipped down his leg, and as he grabbed at it, he accidentally pulled the trigger and shot himself in the thigh. Teammate Antonio Pierce drove Burress to the hospital, and the Giants suspended Burress for the final four games of the regular season and placed him on the non-football injury list. Pierce remains active. "For a person to carry a gun, I mean, you're not carrying a gun to show that 'I'm tough.' It's safety, it's nothing but safety," Porter said. Porter had his own scare on Aug. 30, 2003, when he was with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He decided to fly out to see Colorado State, his alma mater, face Colorado. Afterward, he went to a Denver bar with some friends and, while standing in a parking lot with about 150 other people, got caught in the middle of a shooting. Denver police said Porter was an innocent bystander, and that the shooting, which left one dead and five others wounded, was possibly gang-related. In the season opener, Burress, then in his fourth year with the Steelers, wore a sticker on his helmet bearing Porter's No. 55. "When you get out of a situation like that and you've been in harm's way, the first thing that goes through your mind, I'd rather get caught and take the little penalty from the media, whatever the situation may be, than not have a chance to save my life," Porter said. "It's tough out there so I'm not gonna say I condone what happened. It was a mistake by [Plax]. I know he wish he never did it. But I don't think it's as bad as everybody made it seem, either." Porter brought up the 2007 shooting death of Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor, and the September shooting of Jacksonville Jaguars offensive lineman Richard Collier, who is paralyzed below the waist as a result. "They're making [burress] out to be such a bad guy but you look at all the guys that's been robbed this year, all the home invasions, all the guys that's been shot, like Collier, look how many times he got shot," Porter said in the interview. "I mean, you look at Sean Taylor, he was trying to go by the rules of not having a gun because he got in trouble earlier that year with the gun. Something as simple as that, he gets a home invasion and he gets killed over something simple." Porter said he does not have a bodyguard, but acknowledged that he owns a firearm, and has a permit to carry a concealed weapon in California, but not in Florida. "I'm not saying I'm walking down the street with a handgun on my hip," Porter said. "I'm not doing it for show. It's not fun. Hopefully, in my lifetime, I never have to use it." NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who discussed the situation before Monday night's game between the Carolina Panthers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, said the NFL has a strict gun policy but also must manage it against the constitutional right to bear arms "The real issue to me, is when the players feel they're unsafe, they shouldn't be there," Goodell said. "So get out, don't be there. If you feel the need to have a firearm to be someplace, you're in the wrong place." Porter countered that thinking, saying, "It's a tough situation. I mean we're always in the spotlight. So you can't tell a person to stop living your normal life. You're gonna go out and do these things. "I've had my house broken into before ... I know Plax had been robbed before ... But it's tough for us to say we're professional athletes so we're not supposed to protect ourselves." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I just heard his media release and this was the first time where he's seem professional and articulate. I agreed with everything that he had to say on ESPN and I can understand how difficult that would be for athletes once one of their fellow players, steve smith, was robbed by the damn driver. That having been said, Burress should have been smart enough to have the correct and renewed license for his gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The only issue here is that the gun wasn't registered. I totally understand what Porter is saying, but the gun wasn't registered.....that's what all the hoopla is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The only issue here is that the gun wasn't registered. I totally understand what Porter is saying, but the gun wasn't registered.....that's what all the hoopla is about. it was registerd in Fla, but just expired..haven't we all been late with something in our life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What do you expect from the village idiot:bag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 it was registerd in Fla, but just expired..haven't we all been late with something in our life I think it has to be registered in NY if I'm not mistaken.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 What do you expect from the village idiot:bag: 16.5 sacks in 13 games, that's what I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think it has to be registered in NY if I'm not mistaken.... i understand that..at least it was registered somewhere, even though it lapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i understand that..at least it was registered somewhere, even though it lapsed. But that wouldnt matter unless NY recognized FLA conceal carry laws which I'm fairly certain they dont. One of the Policeman on this board can verify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 But that wouldnt matter unless NY recognized FLA conceal carry laws which I'm fairly certain they dont. One of the Policeman on this board can verify this. They don't, I have a Concealed weapons license down here and its mostly valid throughout the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 This is the problem, Porter wants to make it out as if people think Plax is a "bad guy". Find me one article that says that. Just one. What most people are correctly saying is Plax is a "Stupid guy" for not licencing himself to carry a concealed weapon AND for not having a safety on his weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 They don't, I have a Concealed weapons license down here and its mostly valid throughout the south. Likely KS and MO too. IIRC, the UTAH permit covers the most states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 16.5 sacks in 13 games, that's what I expect. I think you can call this year an aberration based on his prior year sack totals for a soon to be 32 :bag:year old LB: 2007 5.5 2006 7 2005 10.5 2004 7.0 2003 9.0 2002 7.0 He :bag:will be on sabbatical for several years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 AND for not having a safety on his weapon. A Glock doesnt have a lever or switch to activate the safety per say. If you look closely at the trigger, there is a slim piece of plastic (juts out forward) that when depressed, deactivates all saftey features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 A Glock doesnt have a lever or switch to activate the safety per say. If you look closely at the trigger, there is a slim piece of plastic (juts out forward) that when depressed, deactivates all saftey features. And would you consider it wise to be walking around with a gun like that in your waistband, pointed at your junk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 And would you consider it wise to be walking around with a gun like that in your waistband, pointed at your junk? Not unless it was in a holster of some sort. Burress was rollin G style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its not like the guy had a gun with a scraped off serial # or some ****... cut him loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Funny story about these two. A couple of years ago I went to South Beach for spring break. Me and my friends went to this club called Sobe Live, and guess who's inside. Plaxico and Porter, I shook both there hands and told Porter I looked forward to my Jets playing him twice a year. It was a week after the Dolphins picked him up. Both there hands were enormous, when I shook there hands I felt like I had a dog paw. Anyways, me and my friends were just talking about it and decided that they were both strapped at the time. Had no idea how in danger I was, and given the chance again I wouldn't shake Plax's hands in fear a gun might fall out of his belt hit the ground and fire off a round. Best part of the story was how they walked out of the club with a bottle, stuck the bottle in center consoles cup holders with a towel over it and drove away. Can't remember which one was driving, but he definitely wasn't sober. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its not like the guy had a gun with a scraped off serial # or some ****... cut him loose. I thought you guys hated the Giants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I thought you guys hated the Giants? One team can only take so much hate. Its up to you guys now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its not like the guy had a gun with a scraped off serial # or some ****... cut him loose. Right, so you're totally cool with me walking down the street passing you by with your kids while packing an unlicensed high caliber pistol with no safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Right, so you're totally cool with me walking down the street passing you by with your kids while packing an unlicensed high caliber pistol with no safety? You should avoid Texas and Florida, they follow the Constitution out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Right, so you're totally cool with me walking down the street passing you by with your kids while packing an unlicensed high caliber pistol with no safety? He bought it legally in another state... he is a high profile athlete... not some thug with no serial pistol... How is he anymore dangerous to the public just because he didn't have a NY state license? I know what you mean... but the same can be said about a licensed gun. Plaxico's gun was registered to him in another state and would be traced to him just like a licensed gun would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua4ever04 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 16.5 sacks in 13 games, that's what I expect. CrashingJet - 1 Boytono - 0 That was great; well done, man. As for the issue, Porter is actually right for once. His mouth is very annoying but this time, he got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 . As for the issue, Porter is actually right for once. His mouth is very annoying but this time, he got it right. He is absolutely not right. You cannot walk around NY with a gun, licensed or otherwise unless you have a concealed weapons permit which very few non-law enforcement personnel have. Just because a few people in your chosen profession have had "incidents" or have been accosted does not give you the right to break the law. When people do not respect the law, there is anarchy and every jackass can find a reason why he would be justified to break the law too, turning the place into Baghdad II. So he is actually wrong, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 CrashingJet - 1 Boytono - 0 That was great; well done, man. As for the issue, Porter is actually right for once. His mouth is very annoying but this time, he got it right. Based on 10 seasons where he has disappeared for seasons at a time only a liar:bag: would have said he would have this many sacks. Based on his track record for getting lost it would be as equaling as shocking if he had 10 sacks next year at age 32 against a real NFL schedule. The only sacks:bag: he will getting next season will be the bags:bag: on the Dolphagfans heads fans:bag:heads once they get an NFL schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardKoreXXX Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I think you can call this year an aberration based on his prior year sack totals for a soon to be 32 :bag:year old LB: 2007 5.5 2006 7 2005 10.5 2004 7.0 2003 9.0 2002 7.0 He :bag:will be on sabbatical for several years now I dont give a **** whether its an aberration or not LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Based on 10 seasons where he has disappeared for seasons at a time only a liar:bag: would have said he would have this many sacks. Based on his track record for getting lost it would be as equaling as shocking if he had 10 sacks next year at age 32 against a real NFL schedule. The only sacks:bag: he will getting next season will be the bags:bag: on the Dolphagfans heads fans:bag:heads once they get an NFL schedule :bag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 it was registerd in Fla, but just expired..haven't we all been late with something in our life Even if it was NOT expired it was still ILLEGAL in NYS. NYS does NOT recognize a Florida registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 CrashingJet - 1 Boytono - 0 That was great; well done, man. As for the issue, Porter is actually right for once. His mouth is very annoying but this time, he got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 CrashingJet - 1 Boytono - 0 That was great; well done, man. As for the issue, Porter is actually right for once. His mouth is very annoying but this time, he got it right. Porter and you have one thing in common. Both of you should just STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Based on 10 seasons where he has disappeared for seasons at a time only a liar:bag: would have said he would have this many sacks. Based on his track record for getting lost it would be as equaling as shocking if he had 10 sacks next year at age 32 against a real NFL schedule. The only sacks:bag: he will getting next season will be the bags:bag: on the Dolphagfans heads fans:bag:heads once they get an NFL schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 :bag: And a troll like you would easily know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hey TJ call them the way I see them:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hey TJ call them the way I see them:cheers: As stupid as crashing jerk and Aquaqueer are , looks like it was an easy call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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