The Oil Spill

[JerryK]

The govt did shut them down--- for no valid reason.

how about this reason: the safest one just crapped the bed?

[THE ILK]

This is one of the few places, (Federal waters) where the government should have their hands all over everything that goes on there.

So how long did it take them to get involved?

Nah, they're too busy sticking their hands in where they don't belong!

To quote obama-nation, "it's BP's problem."

[Dude Love]

how about this reason: the safest one just crapped the bed?

The safest???

Just out of curiosity, which one was the least safe?

[Greenranger]

Aww, yet the people think the government works for them.

ay bendito:tumbleweed:

The government officials work for themselves. I don't understand how anyone can trust them, especially after the entire Bush Administration, the Health Care Disaster, and now Cap and Trade. It was all just one giant power grab designed to empower themselves.

[villain_the_foe]

The government officials work for themselves. I don't understand how anyone can trust them, especially after the entire Bush Administration, the Health Care Disaster, and now Cap and Trade. It was all just one giant power grab designed to empower themselves.

I say they work for satan, but thats a whole different story (Nebakanezer's dream etc.) I agree with you, but because of that Im going to end this convo here. This will end up being taken completely out of context and I dont feel like going back and forth arguing opinions with other people. I end up arguing for days and it really doesnt add up to much of anything.

But like I said, I see where you're coming from.

[rillo]

The government officials work for themselves. I don't understand how anyone can trust them, especially after the entire Bush Administration, the Health Care Disaster, and now Cap and Trade. It was all just one giant power grab designed to empower themselves.

Because ever since the 1st grade we are taught this and taught that voting works.

"If you say something long enough and loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it"

IBTL!

[villain_the_foe]

Because ever since the 1st grade we are taught this and taught that voting works.

"If you say something long enough and loud enough and often enough, the people will believe it"

IBTL!

I just found my new sig. Thank you!

[Dude Love]

I say they work for satan, but thats a whole different story (Nebakanezer's dream etc.) I agree with you, but because of that Im going to end this convo here. This will end up being taken completely out of context and I dont feel like going back and forth arguing opinions with other people. I end up arguing for days and it really doesnt add up to much of anything.

But like I said, I see where you're coming from.

for biblical reference. Now let's see if you can work Melchizidek into this conversation.

[THE ILK]

for biblical reference.

I second that!

Now let's see if you can work Melchizidek into this conversation.

He's too much of a mystery.

[Dude Love]

I second that!He's too much of a mystery.

I never heard of Melchizidek until recently within a 24 hr period I heard or read his name three times, twice in a secular medium and once at church. Very strange. I analyzed it and came to conclude no way was it a coincidence.

King of Salem...

Salem = Shalom=Peace

Right?

[Falcon63]

Just would like to say:

When Bush took 4 days to respond to Katrina, everyone called for his head, but when Obama takes 2 months to respond to this, he can't go wrong. Honestly, I'm not racist, but I believe that people are afraid to say anything bad about Obama because they will be called racists.

[THE ILK]

I never heard of Melchizidek until recently within a 24 hr period I heard or read his name three times, twice in a secular medium and once at church. Very strange. I analyzed it and came to conclude no way was it a coincidence.

King of Salem...

Salem = Shalom

Right?

Well the word in Hebrew does mean "righteousness is my king."

[THE ILK]

Just would like to say:

When Bush took 4 days to respond to Katrina, everyone called for his head, but when Obama takes 2 months to respond to this, he can't go wrong. Honestly, I'm not racist, but I believe that people are afraid to say anything bad about Obama because they will be called racists.

I agree, my comments about obama have nothing to do with race and everything to do with politics.

I'm far from a racist, and wish that I could say and believe that the first black president this country has ever seen was a great one, sorry but I just can't and I highly doubt he will ever give me reason to.

The media's not biased at all either.

[Greenranger]

Just would like to say:

When Bush took 4 days to respond to Katrina, everyone called for his head, but when Obama takes 2 months to respond to this, he can't go wrong. Honestly, I'm not racist, but I believe that people are afraid to say anything bad about Obama because they will be called racists.

He's not going to get a pass for this one. Even MSNBC is going after him for this.

[Falcon63]

He's not going to get a pass for this one. Even MSNBC is going after him for this.

I heard the US govt. is trying to get the CEO of BP fired...

[THE ILK]

I heard the US govt. is trying to get the CEO of BP fired...

Instead of working with them from the very beginning to get this (Federal waters) under control and cleaned up, all the "US govt." did was pass the buck.

Now, because the polls were negative, the "US govt." decides to wage war against BP.

Just brilliant, why don't they just tell them to file for bankruptcy right now, and totally screw us all together.

Can anybody explain to me why in the world obama has yet to meet with the CEO, throuhout all of this?

[Greenranger]

Instead of working with them from the very beginning to get this (Federal waters) under control and cleaned up, all the "US govt." did was pass the buck.

Now, because the polls were negative, the "US govt." decides to wage war against BP.

Just brilliant, why don't they just tell them to file of bankruptcy right now, and totally screw us all together.

Can anybody explain to me why in the world obama has yet to meet with the CEO, throuhout all of this?

He finally met him today...for 20 minutes...then he went off to have a 75 minute lunch with Joe Biden. Really shows you his priorities.

[Verde]

Obama hate? I'm in.

[Maxman]

Obama hate? I'm in.

BANNED.

[CTM]

I thought Obama's speech was spot on the other night, but wish he stopped short of handing over BP to the wolves. He was right when he said these turds wouldn't be drilling a mile under water if we had invested in renewable energy years ago..

It's the one part of his platform I like.. he speaks out against modern gluttony robbing from our childrens futures..

[villain_the_foe]

for biblical reference. Now let's see if you can work Melchizidek into this conversation.

Cheers.

Im not too familiar with Melchizidek. I'll check up on him though.

[villain_the_foe]

Obama hate? I'm in.

I would join in but black people would take my black status away from me. I have no clue what I'd be then.

[Dude Love]

Just would like to say:

When Bush took 4 days to respond to Katrina, everyone called for his head

4 days?

How about 7 minutes on September 11, 2001? When he was reading a book to school children?

I tell you, karma is a mofo. You reap what you sow, all that.

[Dude Love]

Cheers.

Im not too familiar with Melchizidek. I'll check up on him though.

Neither was I until this year---

http://bible.cc/genesis/14-18.htm

Receiving God's grace is only half of it, accepting it, that's the struggle.

Nobody is unworthy of a second chance or even 7 times 70...

"Freely give that which has been freely given to you"

"No greater love has this than a man who lays his life down for his friends"

"Hold onto it and you will lose it, let it go and you will have eternity"

It took a very hard, long beating for that to get through my thick skull but I think I'm finally getting it. I still feel like God is going to pull the rug out from under my feet because THAT'S WHAT I TRULY DESERVE, but I need to understand that it's alright, because as I have been loved unconditionally, so I must love unconditionally, as Job did, so must I.

[THE ILK]

It's the one part of his platform I like.. he speaks out against modern gluttony robbing from our childrens futures..

Too bad all the spending will also rob from our childrens futures.

[THE ILK]

Neither was I until this year---

http://bible.cc/genesis/14-18.htm

Receiving God's grace is only half of it, accepting it, that's the struggle.

Nobody is unworthy of a second chance or even 7 times 70...

"Freely give that which has been freely given to you"

"No greater love has this than a man who lays his life down for his friends"

"Hold onto it and you will lose it, let it go and you will have eternity"

It took a very hard, long beating for that to get through my thick skull but I think I'm finally getting it. I still feel like God is going to pull the rug out from under my feet because THAT'S WHAT I TRULY DESERVE, but I need to understand that it's alright, because as I have been loved unconditionally, so I must love unconditionally, as Job did, so must I.

God's not going to allow us to get what we truly deserve.

"There is no condemnation in Christ"

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

You want a perfect example, read what Jesus said to the thief on the cross.

The thief that proclaimed he deserved what he was getting, being nailed to a cross.

For all we know about this man, he did nothing good in his entire life.

But he did confess with his mouth and believed in his heart.

Luke 23:42 Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."

What did Jesus reply?

Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

That's God's love, that's what Christ dying on the cross did for us. He chose to do so despite our sins.

He knew we would all fall short, yet He chose to die for us anyway.

We are already forgiven, and pardoned. Sometimes the hardest thing about all this, is accepting it and forgiving ourselves.

[RutgersJetFan]

Just would like to say:

When Bush took 4 days to respond to Katrina, everyone called for his head, but when Obama takes 2 months to respond to this, he can't go wrong. Honestly, I'm not racist, but I believe that people are afraid to say anything bad about Obama because they will be called racists.

What on earth are you talking about. The press has absolutely murdered him. You had Chris Matthews (Chris Matthews!) saying his speech sucked. Stewart's been pretty relentless too.

[Dude Love]

We are already forgiven, and pardoned. Sometimes the hardest thing about all this, is accepting it and forgiving ourselves.

Amen to that, brother.

[Greenranger]

he speaks out against modern gluttony robbing from our childrens futures..

Really? I mean, no one is stealing from our Children more than Barack Obama. But I'm sure the massive debt he ran up in just one year was all BP's fault.

[THE ILK]

Amen to that, brother.

Acceptance and forgiving ourselves is usually a struggle, because these things don't come naturally to us.

Take for example the quotes you gave in a previous post:

"Freely give that which has been freely given to you"

"No greater love has this than a man who lays his life down for his friends"

"Hold onto it and you will lose it, let it go and you will have eternity"

There are a ton of scriptures like this, that really don't make sense to the carnal mind, but they are spiritual truths.

It's really not in our nature to do such things. (denying our own wills)

It's the spirit of God that causes a person to do this.

Read Galatians 2:20, that's really hard. Crucifying our own flesh, dying to our own self wants, so that Christ may live through us.

Kind of makes acceptance and forgiving ourselves, look easy.

Nothing dies without a scream, cutting parts of ourself out, is going to be a struggle.

Read John 15, "pruning" the baron and "purging" the fruitful.

Think about that, the vineyard must be pruned (parts must be cut out) so that it may bear more fruit.

We must do the same thing to ourselves, in order to move forward and grow. There are parts of our own natures that need to be snipped.

This probably does not make much sense to the carnal mind, in fact it may even sound crazy, but spiritually it's priceless.

[Greenranger]

I would join in but black people would take my black status away from me. I have no clue what I'd be then.

Don't worry, we white people will take you in, just like we did with Condy. (that what my friend says we did anyway)

[CTM]

Too bad all the spending will also rob from our childrens futures.

I don't disagree, but he inherited this time bomb, in his defense. Bush was heading down the same path

[Greenranger]

I don't disagree, but he inherited this time bomb, in his defense. Bush was heading down the same path

Yeah, but he didn't have to make it so much worse. I'm not denying that Bush ran up the deficit massively, but we did not need all of the bailouts, stimulus(if it didn't work the first time for Bush, why would it work for him?), and all the other TARP crap.

[THE ILK]

I don't disagree, but he inherited this time bomb, in his defense. Bush was heading down the same path

Yeah, but he didn't have to make it so much worse. I'm not denying that Bush ran up the deficit massively, but we did not need all of the bailouts, stimulus(if it didn't work the first time for Bush, why would it work for him?), and all the other TARP crap.

Exactly, Obama's spending made Bush's look trivial.

In the up coming elections, forget democrats and republicans, vote conservative!

We can't afford to keep spending money so foolishly like this anymore!

[villain_the_foe]

Neither was I until this year---

http://bible.cc/genesis/14-18.htm

Receiving God's grace is only half of it, accepting it, that's the struggle.

Nobody is unworthy of a second chance or even 7 times 70...

"Freely give that which has been freely given to you"

"No greater love has this than a man who lays his life down for his friends"

"Hold onto it and you will lose it, let it go and you will have eternity"

It took a very hard, long beating for that to get through my thick skull but I think I'm finally getting it. I still feel like God is going to pull the rug out from under my feet because THAT'S WHAT I TRULY DESERVE, but I need to understand that it's alright, because as I have been loved unconditionally, so I must love unconditionally, as Job did, so must I.

That has been the struggle for me most of my life. I've been gravitating towards god the past year, just seeing the nature of the world and how the templars have created a very "anti-god" enviornment in the world today. I may be hard headed, but im not stupid. I said to myself one day "If god isnt real, then why are these controllers so adamant about straying people away from what obviously doesnt exist"? The moment I asked myself that question is the moment I realized that not only is God obviously real, but lucifer is as well. From then I just started to dig and then I began to see things plain as day in my normal living condition that is highly satanic yet I never even knew it. Thats the main reason why I stopped watching TV. I've never been such the TV buff outside of football...but I have to admit, what is on TV today would have been considered porn 20 years ago. There's no boundries and yet we'll stick our kids in front of it just to keep them quite and under control. I never thought about things such as that before. Its because we're not taught to pay close attention, we're taught to do a job and get paid legal tender for it. Thats what life is built upon

When I came across Nebakanezer's dream It clairified what I've always known about these governments. I've always had a feeling of something being wrong in the way the world was/is being shaped. Not something that O could speak upon with such knowledge at the time, more of a feeling that I would have just looking at the world and its history. I still have much to learn but I've come across enough to know that this world is full of lies perpetrated by men and women in secret, and the secrets are based on a luciferian agenda. What breaks my heart the most is that most of the people have been so brainwashed in their public education that they care not to see the truth in front of them. I feel sorry for them because they have been taken advantage of since birth, because their parents were as well. One thing about myself I've always been so glad to have is that I'll question anything, because im not afraid to be wrong as long as my purpose is to get to whats right.