Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Texans hired Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator. Phillips had a tough go of it as the Cowboys' 2010 head coach, but there's no question that he was the finest defensive coordinator prospect on the open market. In his last stint as defensive boss (San Diego, 2004-2006), the Chargers leaped from 29th to fifth to first in the league in sacks, and a pass rush is what Houston so desperately needs to take pressure off its young secondary. Phillips will also be charged with making the Texans' defense more physical, probably implementing a 3-4 scheme. Interesting decision given the investment they have made in 4-3 talent, specifically Mario Williams. I wonder if they'll purge talent like Mangini unnecessarily did to us... or if they'll try to make it work with what they've got. Draft day should be interesting, its going to be tough to get any value on DE or OLB talent with all these 3-4 teams in the league now. I can see even more "hybrids" getting over-drafted than ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Did they seriously keep Kubiak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Mario is going to win DPOY next season. Heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Did they seriously keep Kubiak? Why not? He's built up a high end offense there and everyone knew the D sucked. The fact that they're everyone's favorite preseason sleeper is a good thing and means they're on the way up...the Cardinals sat like that for a while and then bs'd their way to a Super Bowl appearance/loss. Phillips can do alot for that D, especially since that front 7 has alot of big athletes (Williams, Smith, Ryans, Cushing, Okoye, Barwin) who still have room to grow as players. They need more DBs though because that secondary is terrible. I'm interested in what he does with Williams, but I doubt it ends poorly for either party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Did they seriously keep Kubiak? yup.....DC is all they really needed...theyre gonna be good next year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Maybe we can unload Pace on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Maybe we can unload Pace on them. That won't fix the pass rush I hear is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 That won't fix the pass rush I hear is missing. Draft a guy to replace him. Pace is way over paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Draft a guy to replace him. Pace is way over paid. Pace is a really good player when he's on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenranger Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Pace is a really good player when he's on the field. He has trouble getting to the QB. 6 or 7 sacks a year does not make a player worth 7, 8, and 9 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Phillips can do alot for that D, especially since that front 7 has alot of big athletes (Williams, Smith, Ryans, Cushing, Okoye, Barwin) who still have room to grow as players. They need more DBs though because that secondary is terrible. I'm interested in what he does with Williams, but I doubt it ends poorly for either party. Agree. Williams is a freak and they could conceivably move him all over the front 7 in a 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Agree. Williams is a freak and they could conceivably move him all over the front 7 in a 34. They have some serious talent on defense with Ryans and Mario, but not so sure they should go to the 3-4. Just seems like taking away from the strength a bit. Their secondary needs a huge upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Pace is a really good player when he's on the field. So is Shonn Greene, yet you are content to harp on Greene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 They have some serious talent on defense with Ryans and Mario, but not so sure they should go to the 3-4. Just seems like taking away from the strength a bit. Their secondary needs a huge upgrade. I wonder about this too... the skeptical side of me wants to see him install the 3-4 WITHOUT getting rid of all his 4-3 talent, and be successful in year one... because I still think we were sold a sh*t bill of goods by Mangini and there was no reason to give Vilma away for pretty much nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I wonder about this too... the skeptical side of me wants to see him install the 3-4 WITHOUT getting rid of all his 4-3 talent, and be successful in year one... because I still think we were sold a sh*t bill of goods by Mangini and there was no reason to give Vilma away for pretty much nothing. Completely agree with you ,meanwhile you are wasting a year getting everyone caught up to speed and figuring out your new weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 He has trouble getting to the QB. 6 or 7 sacks a year does not make a player worth 7, 8, and 9 million dollars. He's easily our best pass rusher after the probable HOFer this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 They have some serious talent on defense with Ryans and Mario, but not so sure they should go to the 3-4. Just seems like taking away from the strength a bit. Their secondary needs a huge upgrade. Ryans and Cushing would be a pretty scary ILB duo...or they could move him to OLB...also, Williams is enough of a freak to possibly even play OLB. Smith has started as a guy who played both 4-3 DE and 3-4 DE for a Super Bowl team...then there's the young guys like Okoye and Barwin...they'll need a DT definitely but they needed one anyway...3-4 or 4-3 their secondary is absolutely terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 He's easily our best pass rusher after the probable HOFer this year. Brodney Pool's our best safety. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 So is Shonn Greene, yet you are content to harp on Greene? It's insanely easier to find a RB than an OLB...that said, you make a decent point...I guess bwhahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 "Another team that'll be targeting 3-4 players in the off-season." exactly right. at some point the relative ease of getting elite 4-3 versus 3-4 talent will compel teams to switch back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 It's insanely easier to find a RB than an OLB...that said, you make a decent point...I guess bwhahaha. Suck on a fart. I wasn't discussing finding a RB vs. a OLB... I was pointing out your double-standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Suck on a fart. I wasn't discussing finding a RB vs. a OLB... I was pointing out your double-standard. It's a decent point, but Pace misses the fist 4 games while Greene gets taken out of playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Wade is a good DC. He's not married to the 3-4 though so I doubt he makes a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Suck on a fart. I wasn't discussing finding a RB vs. a OLB... I was pointing out your double-standard. Just curious, how do you suck on a fart? Same thing with a bag of dicks, how do you suck on that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I read on another forum that he's going to use Williams like he used Bruce Smith. Sounds like a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just curious, how do you suck on a fart? Same thing with a bag of dicks, how do you suck on that too? Just curious... did you really just ask how to suck on a bag of dicks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just curious... did you really just ask how to suck on a bag of dicks? Yes. I was thinking about that Louis CK skit. Funny sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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