THE ILK Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 What will we be drafting next year say with the 31-32 pick in the draft, that would help us make a Super Bowl run. This ought be interesting. Those who act like they know so dam much and love to criticize this question is for you woof woof. The 2011 NYJETS Defense desperately needs a legitimate pass rusher. Did the 8-ball tell you we would be picking 31-32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newyorkgiants10 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I would never trade Harris for Osi. im not saying i would i was just saying thats what i heard on the radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 haha i was listening to some new york radio people and they were talking bout how the giants should trade osi to the jets and get david harris All you need to prove this is a bad idea is the fact that Mike Francesca thinks its a good idea, not to mention which posters are in favor of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 All you need to prove this is a bad idea is the fact that Mike Francesca thinks its a good idea, not to mention which posters are in favor of it. Many love Francesca but wont openly admit it. I refuse to listen to that turd. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Many love Francesca but wont openly admit it. I refuse to listen to that turd. How about you? Fortunately, I live outside of WFAN's range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 All you need to prove this is a bad idea is the fact that Mike Francesca thinks its a good idea, not to mention which posters are in favor of it. You said for a fact Mike Francesca thinks its a good idea. I thought you listened to his show.Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 What will we be drafting next year say with the 31-32 pick in the draft, that would help us make a Super Bowl run. This ought be interesting. Those who act like they know so dam much and love to criticize this question is for you woof woof. The 2011 NYJETS Defense desperately needs a legitimate pass rusher. I don't disagree with this but Osi isn't that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 I don't disagree with this but Osi isn't that guy. Osi seems like the only one made publicly available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Osi's a monster. Plus, he's already familiar with the stadium. Knows where the slippery spots are on the field turf, where the seems are, where to park, which showers have the best water pressure, etc. He could really hit the ground running and make an immediate impact with the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I don't disagree with this but Osi isn't that guy. Wait. Let's not gloss over this. You didn't want to sign Asomugha so that you could get a pass rusher and now even Osi isn't enough? What the **** do you expect? Do you expect to sign Bubba Smith in his prime? I can see not wanting to give up a first or even a second for Osi or not wanting to give him a huge deal, but you don't even think he is a legit pass rusher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Wait. Let's not gloss over this. You didn't want to sign Asomugha so that you could get a pass rusher and now even Osi isn't enough? What the **** do you expect? Do you expect to sign Bubba Smith in his prime? I can see not wanting to give up a first or even a second for Osi or not wanting to give him a huge deal, but you don't even think he is a legit pass rusher? He's a 4-3 end. We are play 3-4. He doesn't fit. We need an OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Why is the 4-3/3-4 thing such a big deal? This D Uses plenty of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 He's a 4-3 end. We are play 3-4. He doesn't fit. We need an OLB. If the Jets decided that they wanted to pursue Osi, I would trust that they had a plan in place to put him to use. And before anyone asks: Yes, much more than I trust them with two #1 CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Why is the 4-3/3-4 thing such a big deal? This D Uses plenty of both. Because you can't give up a great young LB or a 1 for a guy can't play the base D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Because you can't give up a great young LB or a 1 for a guy can't play the base D. I agree...but, you CAN give up David Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 He's a 4-3 end. We are play 3-4. He doesn't fit. We need an OLB. Ah. Now I understand. Bubba Smith is not acceptable! He does not fit the system. Only Lawrence Taylor will do! Dude the guy they are looking for is only going to play on 3rd and long. He can be a punter if he'll knock the QB on his a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikeisback Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Ah. Now I understand. Bubba Smith is not acceptable! He does not fit the system. Only Lawrence Taylor will do! Dude the guy they are looking forget is only going to play on 3rd and long. He can be a punter if he'll knock the QB on his a$$. Did you really compare Osi who is overrated, a malcontent and hurt all the time to LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Because you can't give up a great young LB or a 1 for a guy can't play the base D. Nobody here with a brain is suggesting Harris for Osi. Just getting Osi. Not for a first either. I don't even classify Harris as great or near great and I still wouldn't touch that deal with a 10 foot pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Nobody here with a brain is suggesting Harris for Osi. Just getting Osi. Not for a first either. I don't even classify Harris as great or near great and I still wouldn't touch that deal with a 10 foot pole. Harris to Giants for Osi; sign Tatupu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Did you really compare Osi who is overrated, a malcontent and hurt all the time to LT? Not at all. You have harped for ages about the NEED for a pass rusher. Now that one might be available you do not find him acceptable because he is a 4/3 DE. Kiwanuka, Pace, Thomas, Jason Taylor and Gholston are also 4/3 DEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I don't know who that is, but I think you know what I have to say about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 LBs who make tackles six yards downfield are a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I don't know who that is, but I think you know what I have to say about him. I do. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm not in favor of giving up David Harris for Osi and would not do that, nor would I give up a first rounder. I might give up a second rounder, if I could pay him something reasonable. But to say Osi couldn't make an impact on this defense because he is a traditional 4-3 DE is a bit too simplistic, at least in my opinion. The Jets are not a traditional 34. They play multiple fronts, including the Bear 46, which requires an edge pass rusher (see Richard Dent). Osi's an athlete. At 6'3", 260 he could generate pass rush and more importantly, would command special blocking attention, which might open up rush lanes and free up other guys. Answer me this ... who do you think Rex would rather have on this team right now ... Brian Thomas or Osi? They both make about the same money right now, although the Jets would probably have to re-negotiate with Osi to make him happy. $10M a year? No way. But $5M or $6M? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 LBs who make tackles six yards downfield are a dime a dozen. Vernon Gholston isn't on this team anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm not in favor of giving up David Harris for Osi and would not do that, nor would I give up a first rounder. I might give up a second rounder, if I could pay him something reasonable. But to say Osi couldn't make an impact on this defense because he is a traditional 4-3 DE is a bit too simplistic, at least in my opinion. The Jets are not a traditional 34. They play multiple fronts, including the Bear 46, which requires an edge pass rusher (see Richard Dent). Osi's an athlete. At 6'3", 260 he could generate pass rush and more importantly, would command special blocking attention, which might open up rush lanes and free up other guys. Answer me this ... who do you think Rex would rather have on this team right now ... Brian Thomas or Osi? They both make about the same money right now, although the Jets would probably have to re-negotiate with Osi to make him happy. $10M a year? No way. But $5M or $6M? Maybe. Very good point and I fully agree. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyandthejets Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 3rd and cotchery for osi, then sign TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm not in favor of giving up David Harris for Osi and would not do that, nor would I give up a first rounder. I might give up a second rounder, if I could pay him something reasonable. But to say Osi couldn't make an impact on this defense because he is a traditional 4-3 DE is a bit too simplistic, at least in my opinion. The Jets are not a traditional 34. They play multiple fronts, including the Bear 46, which requires an edge pass rusher (see Richard Dent). Osi's an athlete. At 6'3", 260 he could generate pass rush and more importantly, would command special blocking attention, which might open up rush lanes and free up other guys. Answer me this ... who do you think Rex would rather have on this team right now ... Brian Thomas or Osi? They both make about the same money right now, although the Jets would probably have to re-negotiate with Osi to make him happy. $10M a year? No way. But $5M or $6M? Maybe. Obviously, he'd rather have Osi. This is all just internet chat-room nonsense anyway. If Osi is traded, it's going to be to a team that gives him a big contract extension. And the Jets are not in a position to do that, nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I'm not in favor of giving up David Harris for Osi and would not do that, nor would I give up a first rounder. I might give up a second rounder, if I could pay him something reasonable. But to say Osi couldn't make an impact on this defense because he is a traditional 4-3 DE is a bit too simplistic, at least in my opinion. The Jets are not a traditional 34. They play multiple fronts, including the Bear 46, which requires an edge pass rusher (see Richard Dent). Osi's an athlete. At 6'3", 260 he could generate pass rush and more importantly, would command special blocking attention, which might open up rush lanes and free up other guys. Answer me this ... who do you think Rex would rather have on this team right now ... Brian Thomas or Osi? They both make about the same money right now, although the Jets would probably have to re-negotiate with Osi to make him happy. $10M a year? No way. But $5M or $6M? Maybe. He want's to get paid $10 a year like a premier player. Also, the Giants want a 1st. So in other words, a trade probably wouldn't happen. And I think you mean Bryan Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Vernon Gholston isn't on this team anymore. I know...I said LBs who make tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 3rd and cotchery for osi, then sign TO. TO, Plax, and Holmes on one team? Oh man that's sounds like a reality show right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Why is the 4-3/3-4 thing such a big deal? This D Uses plenty of both. It wouldn't be if you weren't talking about giving up a 1st round pick and a huge money contract in the process. That just doesn't work for a player that would essentially be a situational rusher, as he'd have no every down position on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus One Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 TO, Plax, and Holmes on one team? Oh man that's sounds like a reality show right there. LOL...then we'd HAVE to trade for Ochocinco too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 He want's to get paid $10 a year like a premier player. Also, the Giants want a 1st. So in other words, a trade probably wouldn't happen. And I think you mean Bryan Thomas. Thanks for the spelling correction ... nobody else would have known who I was talking about ... sheeesh. I know he wants to get paid $10M ... so what? Doesn't mean he'll get it. I know the Giants want a 1. Doesn't mean they'll get it. He's not a FA. He's under contract for two more years and he'll be 30 in November, which means he won't want to sit and rot for two prime years of his career and as a result, would pobably take something more than what he's making now and less than what he wants. He doesn't have much of a choice. The point is ... inquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks for the spelling correction ... nobody else would have known who I was talking about ... sheeesh. I know he wants to get paid $10M ... so what? Doesn't mean he'll get it. I know the Giants want a 1. Doesn't mean they'll get it. He's not a FA. He's under contract for two more years and he'll be 30 in November, which means he won't want to sit and rot for two prime years of his career and as a result, would pobably take something more than what he's making now and less than what he wants. He doesn't have much of a choice. The point is ... inquire. I'm just used to it considering some people I work with like to harp on every spelling mistake I make. It rubs off. Anywho. Inquiring about it wouldn't hurt. But let's say he wants to get traded to the Jets. Doesn't he have the right to refuse the trade if we don't give him a new contract? Wasn't the whole reason Orton wasn't traded to the Phins is cause he wanted to get paid more then the Phins offered? I'm just thinking ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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