bitonti Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 this is exactly the kind of sleeper I suspect the Jets will look for at the Safety position... of course after the combine, he probably isn't a sleeper anymore. Jackson's talent as a football player has never been questioned, and the 6-foot, 188-pound safety has been putting on a show for anyone who has seen him work out at Sonic Boom. Last Wednesday, Jackson looked almost picture perfect with his ball reaction skills, his footwork and reverse skills in individual drills, but it was his three 40-yard times that really were eye-catching. I clocked Janzen's 40-yard times at 4.36 seconds, 4.29 and 4.34. Harris, a former NFL wide receiver, has high praise for Jackson. "I have trained some great athletes here at Sonic Boom. People like Marques Colston, Robert Meachem, Tracy Porter, Jacoby Jones and Devery Henderson, and I have never had an athlete like him here," Harris said. "He is the best athlete that's ever trained at Sonic Boom. His athleticism is freakish and his speed, quickness and ease of movement are at the very top of the athletic ladder. He applies all that athletic ability to the football field. He is just not a great athlete, but he can play a high level of football also. He is going to knock the socks off of these other safeties he tests against at the combine." Jackson said his mobility is his greatest strength. "I really think my versatility to play not only safety, but also cornerback will help me out," Jackson said. "Working under my dad in high school, Lance Guidry, the current defensive coordinator at Western Kentucky and learning techniques from Coach Monte Kiffin at Tennessee, I think that really helped mold my football skills to play the different coverage sets everyone has today. I have really good ball skills, and I study a lot of tape on people like Deion Sanders, Ed Reed and Eric Berry. I play the ball well in flight. I know I need to physically get stronger, but with my speed and range, I believe I can help out quickly. All I want is a chance." I currently have Jackson as the third best free safety prospect in the 2012 draft and the 68th best overall player. http://www.dailycomet.com/article/20120211/OPINION01/120219901?Title=Different-paths-to-NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Well we are desperate for more speed at safety position thanks Bit for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 this is exactly the kind of sleeper I suspect the Jets will look for at the Safety position... of course after the combine, he probably isn't a sleeper anymore. http://www.dailycome...nt-paths-to-NFL Janzen is a major turd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! involved in armed robbery at UTenn, stay away far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 Janzen is a major turd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! involved in armed robbery at UTenn, stay away far away sounds perfect for the Jets. this is a team that pick Kenrick Ellis, who, if his assault case goes bad, gets deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 sounds perfect for the Jets. this is a team that pick Kenrick Ellis, who, if his assault case goes bad, gets deported. transferred from U tenn to Mcneese, he was a 5 star recruit, too much baggage, probably a patriot draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 sounds perfect for the Jets. this is a team that pick Kenrick Ellis, who, if his assault case goes bad, gets deported. Ellis' "assult case" is him taking out a guy who came at him and his chick with a bat, IIRC. So yeah...slightly different case if this S guy is still acting like a 12 year old. With a little bit of luck and a whole bunch of work Ellis' assault case becomes part of his long term legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Fast and violent sounds like a perfect safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 just a little more info on this player, Jansen currently carries a 7th rd grade from JB Scouting (Small School Expert). In the article Mike Detiller has him as the 68th best player in the draft which would make him an early 3rd. if he really runs that 4.3 at Indy his stock will soar. But his personal bagage probably holds him back, I'd split the difference and say he's worth a 4 or 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 He's worth a 1 if he pans out If he can play, he can play...get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 He's worth a 1 if he pans out If he can play, he can play...get him the turd would fit in for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 He's worth a 1 if he pans out If he can play, he can play...get him You sound like Tanny...fwiw...i'd take a flyer on him in the 6th or 7th. Not really a strong safety class...if we do not draft Barron I'd probably look at some tweeners that could possibly convert to safety...intrigued by Sean Spence or LaVonta David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 You sound like Tanny...fwiw...i'd take a flyer on him in the 6th or 7th. Not really a strong safety class...if we do not draft Barron I'd probably look at some tweeners that could possibly convert to safety...intrigued by Sean Spence or LaVonta David. +1 I like Iloka enough in the 3-5 range, but yeah it's basically Barron or bust. That's not entirely true...but if you want a really good one it is. I like Trenton Robinson some...Janzen is talented...meh to everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 +1 I like Iloka enough in the 3-5 range, but yeah it's basically Barron or bust. That's not entirely true...but if you want a really good one it is. I like Trenton Robinson some...Janzen is talented...meh to everyone else. I'd add Martin and Smith to good value in the 3-5 range...but also wouldn't mind the previously mentioned (David, Spence) as possible converts in the same range...don't want to get to caught up in where they played in college....Spence especially could be another Bob Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 I like Iloka enough in the 3-5 range, but yeah it's basically Barron or bust. Iloka might actually be the best safety in this crop. Would be a great pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Iloka might actually be the best safety in this crop. Would be a great pickup. He's not, but he is really the only one of any real interest after Barron. It seems like if he runs in the 4.4s I think he ends up in the 2nd. He does have alot of pro potential with his size and athleticism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Iloka might actually be the best safety in this crop. Would be a great pickup. Good fit for trying to cover tight ends with that size. Not that he's necessarily going to be able to stop or slow down the Pats two tight ends, but it's been a weakness in general the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 He's not, but he is really the only one of any real interest after Barron. i used the word might remember every year there are guys we hype up for whatever reason and then a so called lower ranked player turns out to be better. Iloka made a ton of plays Senior Bowl week. LSU Brandon Taylor and Okla State Markelle Martin also looked good. the fact that these players are healthy, and Barron isn't, gives them a huge advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 i used the word might remember every year there are guys we hype up for whatever reason and then a so called lower ranked player turns out to be better. Iloka made a ton of plays Senior Bowl week. LSU Brandon Taylor and Okla State Markelle Martin also looked good. I like both of those players...Taylor and Martin...later in the draft...don't love 'em though. Taylor seems like he'd be competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 since we are talking safeties, LSU's Eric Reid (the dude who made the int on his back in the 1st Alabama game) that's the type of player who is worth a mid first round pick (or higher) in my opinion. He's not in this draft but it looks like next year is actually a much stronger safety year. some likely names include Robert Lester, Alabama; Baccarri Rambo, Georgia, TJ McDonald USC; Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma; all of these guys could be ranked higher than Barron, if they were in the same class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What's the difference between Reid and Barron? Injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What's the difference between Reid and Barron? Injuries? coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 I suspect Reid is faster, more agile and can cover more ground. Barron is bigger. both are great tacklers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denden29 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Jackson is on lots of teams radar. I've seen him as hig as fourth round in some mocks. A good combine for him and he'll get drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 From a diehard Volunteer fan, this guy has Eric Berry type talent. Just Lawrence Phillips type attitude problems. If he can grow up and stay out of trouble he is a perrenial pro bowler. This guy was darn near as good as Berry in his freshman season at UT, when Berry was a junior. No flaws in his game, just flaws off the field. Stud. Book it. Go Vols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 From a diehard Volunteer fan, this guy has Eric Berry type talent. Just Lawrence Phillips type attitude problems. If he can grow up and stay out of trouble he is a perrenial pro bowler. This guy was darn near as good as Berry in his freshman season at UT, when Berry was a junior. No flaws in his game, just flaws off the field. Stud. Book it. Go Vols. Janzen aint worth the risk? A turd is a turd is a turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The difference between Eric Berry and many, many guys is mental. Janzen is probably very talented but I wouldn't take him before the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 His name reminds me of this Heineken commercial: I have no idea why. "Jaan Pehechaan Ho" is a catchy song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The guy came in ready to go at the combine....Pushing out 9 reps on the bench Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 sounds perfect for the Jets. this is a team that pick Kenrick Ellis, who, if his assault case goes bad, gets deported. Defending yourself when a guy attacks you with a baseball bat, and committing an armed robbery. Not exactly the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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