Kentucky Jet Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 but neither did HOUSTON or ASKEW and both looked as fast as JORDAN and just as intense! I was sorry to see LAMONT go but I welcomed the chance to finally see ASKEW and HOUSTON. Brooks played well and won! BT and JA did well too! JOLLEY sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 LaMont just played for a paycheck last season. Last year he was running over everybody in sight and getting as many yards per run as he could. I saw it too many times this season where LaMont doesnt lower the boom and fight for those extra yards, and gets pushed fairly easily out of bounds. He's a good player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strifec1209 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 yea... bolly looked as fast as lamont bolly 5-56 yards lamont- 14-49 yards harsh day for lamont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Jordan Sucks! Raiders Suck! Viva La Bollywood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 but neither did HOUSTON or ASKEW and both looked as fast as JORDAN and just as intense! I was sorry to see LAMONT go but I welcomed the chance to finally see ASKEW and HOUSTON. Brooks played well and won! BT and JA did well too! JOLLEY sucks! Jolly is complete garbage. He is useless. JA and BT showed up, I agree. Makes you wonder what they were doing the last 8 weeks. I'm glad I watched this game. It was great seeing Bolly get a win, and it was great watching BJ Askew, after 3 years, finally get in a game. FCK YOU HERM YOU POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I'm glad I watched this game. It was great seeing Bolly get a win, and it was great watching BJ Askew, after 3 years, finally get in a game. FCK YOU HERM YOU POS. BJ Askew is the answer. Go dig up Barry Word and we will get the 2 fullback thing going. We will POWER over everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 When the opposing QB runs more than you do as a starting QB, time to shut up. Sorry Lamont, clearly you were not as good as you thought you were. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Jordan should thank Herm for not over-exposing him as a Jet. By playing him as little as he did, Herm left mystery out there for other teams and allowed Jordan to be greatly overpaid this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 i guess running your mouth only gets you so far. Jordan went from a now-garbage team to a mediocre team so not much has fared for him. But he is on my fantasy team and if he would like to rush for 150 and 3 TDs next week I would glady appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 How about you all get off LaMont's dick finally and realize that he is NOTHING and NEVER will be a quality starting RB. Yes, I know he ran over defenses when they were tired in the 4th quarter and he was fresh after being in for 2 or 3 plays the rest of the game, but comeon guys. Jordan Sucks, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 if this time last year i told you the Jets would play the Raiders in week 14 and Bollinger would out-rush Jordan you all would think I was on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Name G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Curtis Martin 12 220 735 61.3 3.3 5 LaMont Jordan 13 247 893 68.7 3.6 9 Rather comparable. I would even go to suggest that LaMont's running style works better with the Jets than it does with the Raiders. And he's scored more TD's. And that's something the Jets have lacked... offensive production. From any of the positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Name G Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Curtis Martin 12 220 735 61.3 3.3 5 LaMont Jordan 13 247 893 68.7 3.6 9 Rather comparable. I would even go to suggest that LaMont's running style works better with the Jets than it does with the Raiders. And he's scored more TD's. And that's something the Jets have lacked... offensive production. From any of the positions. So pay top dollar for another mediocre back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 How about you all get off LaMont's d!ck finally and realize that he is NOTHING and NEVER will be a quality starting RB. Yes, I know he ran over defenses when they were tired in the 4th quarter and he was fresh after being in for 2 or 3 plays the rest of the game, but comeon guys. Jordan Sucks, period. Yeah, 893 yards rushing and nine touchdowns to go with 65 receptions for 523 yards and two more touchdowns is ******* terrible. Curtis was doing MUCH better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 2005 Oakland Raiders 13 13 65 523 8.0 28 2 4 0 24 If you're going to knock the guy, you've got to tell the whole story. 523 yds recieving. 11 touchdowns. and he's got to share touches with randy moss and jerry porter. Oh, and if you didn't notice yesterday, the Raiders OL is turnstyle-city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yeah, 893 yards rushing and nine touchdowns to go with 65 receptions for 523 yards and two more touchdowns is farging terrible. Curtis was doing MUCH better. Wait a minute Troll-Wasn't it you that said Lamont would be like letting Priest Holmes go? Sorry if that was not you, or what you said, But, a 3.6 average is not Prioest Holmes numbers. Lamont is JAG. Not worthy of a huge salary. I don't see tyhe justification of giving him big bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 2005 Oakland Raiders 13 13 65 523 8.0 28 2 4 0 24 If you're going to knock the guy, you've got to tell the whole story. 523 yds recieving. 11 touchdowns. and he's got to share touches with randy moss and jerry porter. Oh, and if you didn't notice yesterday, the Raiders OL is turnstyle-city. In equity, having Moss and Porter as receivers allows you to spread defenses downfield, giving a lot of room for a RB to catch passes. Give him credit, he has caught those passes and done something with them, but there has been room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 So pay top dollar for another mediocre back? As opposed to paying top dollar for a mediocre QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 In equity, having Moss and Porter as receivers allows you to spread defenses downfield, giving a lot of room for a RB to catch passes. Give him credit, he has caught those passes and done something with them, but there has been room. Maybe you should check Jerry's and Randy's stats. Lamont is having one hell of a season, despite being on the Lions West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Maybe you should check Jerry's and Randy's stats. Lamont is having one hell of a season, despite being on the Lions West. Did you see th eplayers trailing Moss yesterday? They double him every play, and teh Jets aren't the only team to do that. LJ is NOT having a great year running the ball-which Oakland is paying him to do. At least, they are not getting their return. Plus, LJ continues to show that he can be a malcontent that is interested in himself first, team second. Ha Martin ever gone public with the # of carries he has gotten? Jordan has done that several times this year. Bottom line, is Jordan teh type of back that you pay "franchise RB" money for? Noty from what I have seen this year. Maybe that will change, but his situation in Oakland is not terrible for a RB, as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Actually, I didn't see the game yesterday. I live in Detroit. I don't get to see the Jets play often, if at all. And, it doesn't shock me that Randy Moss was outrunning the entire Jets defense. He is the best player in the NFL, after all. If not the best, at least top three. That being said, you made it sound like LaMont's stats were inflated by being on the same team as Randy, which isn't true. It'd show up in his rushing stats, if that were the case. He's a dual threat, rushing and receiving. While he was overpaid, he's still not as bad as some people on this board make him out to be. There were a ton of problems with that Raiders team. Running back isn't one of them now. He's going to have over 1000 yards rushing. He'll have close to 700 yards receiving. He has 11 TD's, as of today, and probably will end up with 15 or so. Which isn't bad for your first year of starting. He's 15th in the league in rushing. 8th in the league in rushing TD's. Second in receiving yards for a RB. While he may not be elite right now, there's no reason to think he won't be considered a top ten back, in the future. And, it's ignorant to think he wouldn't help the Jets, considering how often they like to throw to backs, and how they like to run. I feel he's a better fit for the Jets offense, than Curtis is, at this time. But hey... it doesn't really matter now, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Actually, I didn't see the game yesterday. I live in Detroit. I don't get to see the Jets play often, if at all. And, it doesn't shock me that Randy Moss was outrunning the entire Jets defense. He is the best player in the NFL, after all. If not the best, at least top three. That being said, you made it sound like LaMont's stats were inflated by being on the same team as Randy, which isn't true. It'd show up in his rushing stats, if that were the case. He's a dual threat, rushing and receiving. While he was overpaid, he's still not as bad as some people on this board make him out to be. There were a ton of problems with that Raiders team. Running back isn't one of them now. He's going to have over 1000 yards rushing. He'll have close to 700 yards receiving. He has 11 TD's, as of today, and probably will end up with 15 or so. Which isn't bad for your first year of starting. He's 15th in the league in rushing. 8th in the league in rushing TD's. Second in receiving yards for a RB. While he may not be elite right now, there's no reason to think he won't be considered a top ten back, in the future. And, it's ignorant to think he wouldn't help the Jets, considering how often they like to throw to backs, and how they like to run. I feel he's a better fit for the Jets offense, than Curtis is, at this time. But hey... it doesn't really matter now, does it? In watching Jordan, he has a propensity to want to best it outside at every opportunity, even if it isn't there. He is not a very patient runner, and does not wait for his blocking to evolve. Can he get better-Certainly. The only way I can look at Lamont now is to ask whether we should hve signed him and kept him on teh Jets. The answer to that question today (based on what he signed with Oakland for, and what we have seen of him in a full-time role this year), is no. To me RB is a position that is a dime a dozen in the NFL. Except for an elite few, on a year to year basis, everyone lumps pretty closely in the next level. What distinguishes a Lamont form a Dom Davis, Thomas Jones or a Reuben Droughns? Not a lot at this point. And he is past a lot more than those guys, from what I know. Asa Jet fan, all we have left to talk about LJ is-Was it a mistake to let him go at that salary? Today, that answer has to be "No". Maybe that changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 What distinguishes a Lamont form a Dom Davis, Thomas Jones or a Reuben Droughns? Not a lot at this point. And he is past a lot more than those guys, from what I know. Asa Jet fan, all we have left to talk about LJ is-Was it a mistake to let him go at that salary? Today, that answer has to be "No". Maybe that changes I can understand your sentiment. About RB's being a dime a dozen. While LaMont isn't LT or Shaun Alexander (whom I'm not too high on, considering that line Seattle has. The same reason I don't mention Larry Johnson), he's still a damn good back. He's not top ten, but he's top 15. And he's a receiving threat. He has the tools to be a great back in this league. And he'd fit the Jets, like a glove... but at the salary he's making, with Curtis and Chad and all the other high salaries on this team? That's the real question, and it would not have made sense to keep him, though he may have been the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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