Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Wade does nothing but build GREAT defenses. Not sure how anyone can't respect that. He didn't in Dallas as HC. He received a gift from Parcells in the form of DeMarcus Ware and did nothing with it. Further proof that Rex is better; he's been asked to coach both sides of the ball and still produces a great D every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He didn't in Dallas as HC. Further proof that Rex is better; he's been asked to coach both sides of the ball and still produces a great D every year. Yeah he did. He built a great defense in Dallas for sure, then when he got promoted to HC it was too big a job for him. Just like coaching the whole team has been too big a job for Rex. Why is Phillps higher on the list? He's done it in multiple stops along his career. Rex never built a defense. He inherited Baltimore's which has been great regardless of the coordinators down there, and he inherited Mangini's and got it to play better... with each year Rex puts "his guys" into "his system" here with the Jets, they get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Rex never built a defense. He inherited Baltimore's which has been great regardless of the coordinators down there, and he inherited Mangini's and got it to play better... Rex was part of the reason why they built up that great D in Baltimore. He won a Super Bowl as D-line coach and worked his way up the ladder. It's not like he was some outsider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 with each year Rex puts "his guys" into "his system" here with the Jets, they get worse. What are you talking about? Rex transformed Sione Pouha's career. Muhammad Wilkerson looks like he'll be awesome. Until Bart and Leonhard got too old he got a lot out of them. Maybin shouldn't have even been in the NFL and he came here and got 6 sacks. Cromartie, other than some occassional lapses, has been superb. Can you seriously point to a single player Rex has coached and suggest they've regressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Wade does nothing but build GREAT defenses. Not sure how anyone can't respect that. I couldn't put Williams in front of Rex, though he probably belongs there and I could probably make the case that Rob might belong there too, it felt wrong. Dude, stop smoking crack. Greg Williams and Rob Ryan? Please. Rob had a couple of good years in Oakland but his Dallas defense has underachieved so far. Go back and tell me how many teams with Greg Williams defenses made the playoffs. The answer - very few and those had Drew Brees at QB. Based on what Rex did in Baltimore and his first three years with the Jets he's no lower than third and he is in the top tier. FWIW, Football Outsiders predicts the Jets will rank no lower than third in total defense by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Rex was part of the reason why they built up that great D in Baltimore. He won a Super Bowl as D-line coach and worked his way up the ladder. It's not like he was some outsider. Marvin Lewis. Mike Nolan. Rex. All of them benefited from superior scouting, drafting and talent. That defense was going to be awesome with or without Rex. I appreciate Rex for what he is, but he's hardly the catalyst of the defense that has made Baltimore relevant for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Belly??? You mean for the way he dominated Arizona yesterday and shut down that world beater Kevin Kolb? Pats lost to Arizona's defense. Belli's D stepped up and got the ball back for the win though, and Gostkoswki blew it. Also, the list is composed based on history - not on yesterday. Your rebuttal is moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 What are you talking about? Rex transformed Sione Pouha's career. Muhammad Wilkerson looks like he'll be awesome. Until Bart and Leonhard got too old he got a lot out of them. Maybin shouldn't have even been in the NFL and he came here and got 6 sacks. Cromartie, other than some occassional lapses, has been superb. Can you seriously point to a single player Rex has coached and suggest they've regressed? That's great. Sounds like Rex is a really good position coach then. What does individual achievements have to do with my comments about the overall defense? Nothing. From what I've seen, Rex's OVERALL defense has gotten a little worse each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Dude, stop smoking crack. Greg Williams and Rob Ryan? Please. Rob had a couple of good years in Oakland but his Dallas defense has underachieved so far. Go back and tell me how many teams with Greg Williams defenses made the playoffs. The answer - very few and those had Drew Brees at QB. Based on what Rex did in Baltimore and his first three years with the Jets he's no lower than third and he is in the top tier. FWIW, Football Outsiders predicts the Jets will rank no lower than third in total defense by the end of the year. This is pretty accurate, but conflicts with my trolling agenda therefore I shall ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This is pretty accurate, but conflicts with my trolling agenda therefore I shall ignore. TOUCH IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's your opinion? or? Nope. It's fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This is pretty accurate, but conflicts with my trolling agenda therefore I shall ignore. LMFAO - I was about to respond with 08 defense vs. 09 improvement with only adding Scott and Leonard, but, damn you!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Nope. It's fact. I guess you like him as a receiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 San-blow-me-oh is the lamest insult-nickname I've ever heard. Honestly. Every time I read it, the rest of the whining being done about the guy doesn't even register. I do agree with much of your post though. Holmes was dropping passes like crazy. More importantly I want to know who came up with the game plan for Sanchez to only throw to Holmes and let him try to burn his old team. Last week the ball was spread out to multiple receivers, attacking weak parts of the Bills defense. This week it looked like Schotty ball, drop back, don't go through progressions and just throw to Holmes over and over and let him either drop passes that his his hands, or break off routes early and cause incompletions. Then comes his disgusting body language. Ugh. Hill must have been out there as a decoy, I suspect. He was hurt all week and I'm not sure if he got any targets at all. Which sucks. You've got to give a big WR like that the chance to make a play, a jump ball or something. Hill dropped a early pass that should have een 7 or close to it. Watching some of ESPN and the NFL channel the popular opinion was that Pitt took him out of his initial routes and he was clueless on how to handle. Growing pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hill dropped a early pass that should have been 7 or close to it. Watching some of ESPN and the NFL channel the popular opinion was that Pitt took him out of his initial routes and he was clueless on how to handle. Growing pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's great. Sounds like Rex is a really good position coach then. What does individual achievements have to do with my comments about the overall defense? Nothing. From what I've seen, Rex's OVERALL defense has gotten a little worse each year. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Pats lost to Arizona's defense. Belli's D stepped up and got the ball back for the win though, and Gostkoswki blew it. Also, the list is composed based on history - not on yesterday. Your rebuttal is moronic. Moronic? Really? This coming from a filthy, disgusting ape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hill dropped a early pass that should have een 7 or close to it. Watching some of ESPN and the NFL channel the popular opinion was that Pitt took him out of his initial routes and he was clueless on how to handle. Growing pains. I guess Sanjay promised Tanny to have Hill ready for week 1, but nobody thought to ask about week 2. ****ing bean counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Why doesn't Sanchez get a pejorative nickname? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Why doesn't Sanchez get a pejorative nickname? This crowd isn't creative enough for that. He's not white, but not black, so it's a given it'll be racial slurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Why doesn't Sanchez get a pejorative nickname? Sanchize brah. Sanchize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's great. Sounds like Rex is a really good position coach then. What does individual achievements have to do with my comments about the overall defense? Nothing. From what I've seen, Rex's OVERALL defense has gotten a little worse each year. While true, (depending on what #'s you're looking at of course. There's an argument to be made for 2011 being better than 2010), 2 things have to be kept in perspective. First, the D was so insanely good for his first year that the bar was set way too high. Defenses are the most consistent thing in football year to year, but no D ever puts up numbers that consistently good. Second, the offense has certainly played its part. Turnovers and 3-and-outs never make it easier on a D and last year both were at their worst. Not to be constantly-harping-on-acronyms-guy, but that's one of the reasons FO's a good measure on overall D; this is the type of stuff they adjust for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 imagine that Rex never puts Sanchez back in the game after going to Tebow for 3 plays. Could have really been worse? Tebow might pull off the miracle, he's the ultimate Steeler-killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rob Ryan is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rob Ryan is horrible. Remember last week when it was that he finally had the pieces to run his dominate defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rob Ryan is horrible. "And then the Cowboys went on to have the greatest defense ever..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Remember last week when it was that he finally had the pieces to run his dominate defense? Dominant? Is that what you're trying to say, dominant? Dominate is a verb. Dominant is the adjective. JiF is the cockslurp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "And then the Cowboys went on to have the greatest defense ever..." Rob Ryan is a pumped-up Pete Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rob Ryan is a pumped-up Pete Carroll. Don't waste your magic on Rob Ryan, I was hoping you'd call Felton a pumped up version of Nate Robinson and then see him explode for 18 and 9 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Dominant? Is that what you're trying to say, dominant? Dominate is a verb. Dominant is the adjective. JiF is the cockslurp. Yep, Dominant. Remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Rob Ryan is a pumped-up Pete Carroll. Oh no, it's not that I have faith in Rob Ryan, it's just that I have faith that there is a God and he cares about making you look like a jinx on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Don't waste your magic on Rob Ryan, I was hoping you'd call Felton a pumped up version of Nate Robinson and then see him explode for 18 and 9 this season. lol Nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Oh no, it's not that I have faith in Rob Ryan, it's just that I have faith that there is a God and he cares about making you look like a jinx on the Internet. Except for the Chandler thing and the Leinart thing and the David Carr thing and the Cam Newton thing and the Robert Gallery thing and the Keith Van Horn thing, I've been pretty money on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet27 Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 By the way, someone said there were going to compare 08 to 09....truth be told that a healthy Farve and with that 08 defense, we would have gone far. Oh and by the way who was coaching back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 By the way, someone said there were going to compare 08 to 09....truth be told that a healthy Farve and with that 08 defense, we would have gone far. Oh and by the way who was coaching back then? Actually our defense sucked ass in 08 and Favre was our QB that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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