Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Soooooo....you're point is that Taj Boyd's efforts last night dont count because he was playing vs. guys who wont play in the NFL and then you support your position by using guys who are having success in the NFL that played for Nevada and Delaware because why exactly? They played better competition in college? Or are you saying, to have success in the NFL, you need to play vs. inferior competition? I'm thoroughly confused. I can see his point.. but last nights game was against a top 5 SEC team so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Boyd was doing it against guys that will be working for UPS next year. It doesnt count. How many players will he face this year that will never step foot in an NFL locker room? How many on Georgia last night? Doesnt count. So no UDFA (Simms) has made it in the NFL? weird. holy sh*t this is really happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Forget this Tajh Boyd noise. We need to Blow for Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My point is that the same people in here saying the Jets should tank the season to get some SEC or ACC signal caller, are the same people saying Simms played against inferior competition, and never did anything in college. There is hardly any evidence that there is a direct correlation between college success and the NFL. Actually evidence points to the contrary. My hope is that we see if Smith and Simms can play this year. If either one can then it is one less position we need to draft next year. Don't say that Simms doesnt deserve a shot and then say that Boyd does when the competition Simms faced in the pre season was better then any competition Boyd will face all season (unless all 11 starters on a team make it to the NFL). Boyd looked good last night behind a strong running game and good defense. But its still college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 How many players will he face this year that will never step foot in an NFL locker room? How many on Georgia last night? Doesnt count. I'm dumbfounded by this. Why are you going to extremes? Of course it counts. He looked great last night. Doesn't make him the next Steve Young, no. But it definitely helped his draft stock, especially coming off his play in last years bowl game. It definitely pushes him into the mix more. I wasn't a big believer in Boyd but I'm starting to come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm dumbfounded by this. Why are you going to extremes? Of course it counts. He looked great last night. Doesn't make him the next Steve Young, no. But it definitely helped his draft stock, especially coming off his play in last years bowl game. It definitely pushes him into the mix more. I wasn't a big believer in Boyd but I'm starting to come around. Its a long way from the draft. Lets see where he goes from here. Its a long season and he has a very good team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My point is that the same people in here saying the Jets should tank the season to get some SEC or ACC signal caller, are the same people saying Simms played against inferior competition, and never did anything in college. There is hardly any evidence that there is a direct correlation between college success and the NFL. Actually evidence points to the contrary. My hope is that we see if Smith and Simms can play this year. If either one can then it is one less position we need to draft next year. Don't say that Simms doesnt deserve a shot and then say that Boyd does when the competition Simms faced in the pre season was better then any competition Boyd will face all season (unless all 11 starters on a team make it to the NFL). Boyd looked good last night behind a strong running game and good defense. But its still college. I think you're drastically minimizing what some fans probably over emphasize. Somewhere you have a point that you have to sift through more than just wins an losses. That said Boyd looked really good in a big game...vs. what is probably superior competition again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its a long way from the draft. Lets see where he goes from here. Its a long season and he has a very good team around him. Of course. But that was Georgia, not Citadel. Give him some props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There is hardly any evidence that there is a direct correlation between college success and the NFL. Actually evidence points to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My point is that the same people in here saying the Jets should tank the season to get some SEC or ACC signal caller, are the same people saying Simms played against inferior competition, and never did anything in college. There is hardly any evidence that there is a direct correlation between college success and the NFL. Actually evidence points to the contrary. My hope is that we see if Smith and Simms can play this year. If either one can then it is one less position we need to draft next year. Don't say that Simms doesnt deserve a shot and then say that Boyd does when the competition Simms faced in the pre season was better then any competition Boyd will face all season (unless all 11 starters on a team make it to the NFL). Boyd looked good last night behind a strong running game and good defense. But its still college. I'm in the camp of when the live bullets are flying, and EVERYONE on the field is pulled from the pool with the absolute best talent in the world (The NFL, not college), you either have IT, or you don't, and because most college teams field far superior talent then they play who offer the best prospects according to scouts, you can't find out until they show enough to warrant a chance to show you in a live NFL game, like you I hope Simms gets that chance, I think he has that IT factor most don't, but you will never know until he gets that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 How many players will he face this year that will never step foot in an NFL locker room? How many on Georgia last night? Doesnt count. LOL Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehFalcon63 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I think that we should go after a DIFFERENT Bengals cut: Jordan Campbell! Anyone who has seen videos of him knows that he's a BEAST! I said the same about Vontaze Burfict. I think that the Bengals got a HUGE steal in him, and I think they just cut another in Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Basically, we need to start drafting the least productive players on non-major conference teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'll say it again... Bridge water isn't a SEC QB ... I'm just starting my annual scout chart and both are getting put on it. I think Teddy is the best option but this just depends on how bad we do. In my opinion 80 % of the league have a committed QB. So that's another hope we get him. He could slip. A couple of teams that haven't done well in the last couple years. Bills - Manuel Fins - Tannehill Titans - Locker Vikes - Ponder Oak - Flynn Car - Newton Rams - Bradford ... I see really the only REAL QB needy teams are Jets(Depends on Geno) Jags , browns and Bucs(If Freeman doesn't show up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Brett Hundley > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm dumbfounded by this. Why are you going to extremes? Of course it counts. He looked great last night. Doesn't make him the next Steve Young, no. But it definitely helped his draft stock, especially coming off his play in last years bowl game. It definitely pushes him into the mix more. I wasn't a big believer in Boyd but I'm starting to come around. Think what RSJ is saying is that people were very quick to discount Simms good performance this summer, as "He was playing against UPS drivers" Then tout a player who is playing against weaker, by far competition. He's got a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 and rex was there.......hmm......Looking for his NEXT job perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenoandtheJets Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Geno Smith is the Jets quarterback right now. Lets see how he plays for the Jets it's his rookie season. I think Geno will play well & I hope the Jets stick with the QB for a while. The Jets need more Defense,Running backs and Wide Recievers. No more QBs for now. Its been a revolving door of jets qbs in the past. Geno Smith should play well thats what i think. Go Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its a long way from the draft. Lets see where he goes from here. Its a long season and he has a very good team around him. I don't understand why people are having trouble following you. Next QB we take we should just draw out of a hat and stop pretending that how they play prior to their first regular season NFL start isn't just meaningless data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My annual scout chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermuckle Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 But there was a college QB whose stats for their first game last year was 32 of 36 passes for 323 yards and 4 TDs, who also ran for 65 yards and another TD... guess who???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 My annual scout chart. I don't like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My annual scout chart. I've spent all day studying Clemson tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I've spent all day studying Clemson tape. Same here watching Teddy now .. I find scouting myself pretty fun .. gives you more "know how" in the game of football instead of sounding ignorant like a lot of people...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Same here watching Teddy now .. I find scouting myself pretty fun .. gives you more "know how" in the game of football instead of sounding ignorant like a lot of people...... +1 I take a lot of pride in my film study habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Gotta gobble up some of that know-how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shhwagah Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 This post was definitely made before Bridgewater carved up Ohio. Not the best competition but this kid is precise like a brain surgeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 +1 I take a lot of pride in my film study habits. I'm also very proud of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm also very proud of you What about me..... :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 This post was definitely made before Bridgewater carved up Ohio. Not the best competition but this kid is precise like a brain surgeon. You mean UPS university? Doesn't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Bridgewater is balling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 What about me..... :'( Im not sure how serious you are, he saves me from having to pay for a premium scouting service every year. His reports are very thorough. I'll check out some of yours and let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm watching Bridgewater on a 42-inch screen at the Chili's. It's HD, though. Am I getting enough know-how or should I move to a place with a bigger screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 You're at a Chili's. Lulza. Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 I'm watching Bridgewater on a 42-inch screen at the Chili's. It's HD, though. Am I getting enough know-how or should I move to a place with a bigger screen? Probably just a actual grip on the game instead of gif and JPEG's in 97% of your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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