slowmoe57 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Seriously? No -- But let's be honest it is only a matter of time. wow 7 neg reps when did everyone become so self righteous -- I will delete as to not offend anymore of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 As he slurped on a penis ... but this is ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 No -- But let's be honest it is only a matter of time. wow 7 neg reps when did everyone become so self righteous -- I will delete as to not offend anymore of you Ahh, I get it. You were being proactively homophobic! Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 but this is ok.... Not really, but it was about Kerry Rhodes, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Ahh, I get it. You were being proactively homophobic! Good job! negative -- I could care less of anyones sexual orientation. And Good for him to come out he is a braver man than most. but the jokes will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Klacko 4 mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Klacko 4 mod Nope. Been there, done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Magary nails it on Deadspin. http://deadspin.com/michael-sam-shouldnt-have-to-do-this-alone-1519827022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Magary nails it on Deadspin. http://deadspin.com/michael-sam-shouldnt-have-to-do-this-alone-1519827022 Not really. Deadspin championing the worst possible scenario is silly. But expected from them...that site is a 24/7 witch hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not really. Deadspin championing the worst possible scenario is silly. But expected from them...that site is a 24/7 witch hunt. He's not championing anything. He's making a sadly realistic prognosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 "That will break a tie against that player," the former general manager said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping to the Today show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'" TEH HORDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 He's not championing anything. He's making a sadly realistic prognosis. Lol, no he's not...he's creating a witch hunt already. There's nothing realistic about the SEC player of the year not being drafted...especially with the players Mizzou has produced lately. Sadly, in Deadspin's case, Sam getting drafted would be bad for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 TEH HORDE! OH NOES!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 but this is ok.... Johnno - Fairy Rhodes played a mans game like a sissy, then when he had a chance to really do something positive - he cowardly refused. I think he's a POS as a player and a person and I'll make whatever remarks I want to about him. If some self righteous dildo want's to neg rep me for it - I'm more than fine with that. My comment was all about Rhodes and nothing about gay rights. Anyone that knows me knows I'm very outspoken supporter of LGBT rights. I think what this kid is doing is highly commendable and selfless. Hopefully it will be the start of a needed trend into the sport most looked at as "manly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Lol, no he's not...he's creating a witch hunt already. There's nothing realistic about the SEC player of the year not being drafted...especially with the players Mizzou has produced lately. Sadly, in Deadspin's case, Sam getting drafted would be bad for business. Yeah, Sheldon Richardson sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yeah, Sheldon Richardson sucks. Lolwut. Read the post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Lolwut. Read the post again. Dude, there's already scouts saying they don't think he's a good player. If he has even an ok but not great combine, he could easily slip out of the draft with all of them using the already stated excuse of a "distraction." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 It wouldn't be a travesty. Tell him to shut his mouth, keep his desires to himself and play football. You really are a Villain, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Dude, there's already scouts saying they don't think he's a good player. If he has even an ok but not great combine, he could easily slip out of the draft with all of them using the already stated excuse of a "distraction." Scouts talk a lot. Prematurely putting together a torch mob is silly. And distraction isn't an excuse, it's reality. He's going to bring a lot of cameras wherever he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not sure there's much of a market for DEs at 6'2" , 260. LB, may be if he has some speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Or bumps him up. Jersey sales are going to be huge, especially if he plays somewhere like San Fran or Chicago. Or New York.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not sure there's much of a market for DEs at 6'2" , 260. LB, may be if he has some speed. Robert Mathis is 6-2, 246. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Nope. Been there, done that. What if we ask nicely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Scouts talk a lot. Prematurely putting together a torch mob is silly. And distraction isn't an excuse, it's reality. He's going to bring a lot of cameras wherever he goes. I just find it a bit curious that almost everyone openly commenting on this has been positive - including Richie Incognito; yet the majority of anonymous comments (most of which are from scouts and front office guys) are coming up with excuses to not draft the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What if we ask nicely? Nope. Don't need the headache. I'll politely decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I just find it a bit curious that almost everyone openly commenting on this has been positive - including Richie Incognito; yet the majority of anonymous comments (most of which are from scouts and front office guys) are coming up with excuses to not draft the kid. I'd be shocked if he wasn't drafted. You guys were way off on the Incognito/Martin thing anyways. I'd ride with me this time. Let's go find an anonymous source and fan the flames. Stop falling for it. Mel Kiper got every pick in the first round wrong last year...no one actually knows what these teams think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd be shocked if he wasn't drafted. You guys were way off on the Incognito/Martin thing anyways. I'd ride with me this time. Let's go find an anonymous source and fan the flames. Stop falling for it. Mel Kiper got every pick in the first round wrong last year...no one actually knows what these teams think I'm just going based on what they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'm just going based on what they said. "Ryan Nassib is a first round pick" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 "Ryan Nassib is a first round pick" I never heard that from a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I never heard that from a GM. Is there a quote from an anonymous GM saying he won't be drafted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 "If Stalin, Hitler and Mao could hit .340 I'd start them across the outfield." Billy Martin Which is not to equate being gay with being a murderous meglomaniac. Merely it's moving to a question of whether you can play than who he choses to sleep with. If he can play he will get a shot. Not sure he's good enough s an LB and size wise he is not big enough to tangle with most tackles.May be he makes it on specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd be shocked if he wasn't drafted. You guys were way off on the Incognito/Martin thing anyways. I'd ride with me this time. How do you know this? Let's go find an anonymous source and fan the flames. Stop falling for it. Mel Kiper got every pick in the first round wrong last year...no one actually knows what these teams think I've been reading draft stuff for two months and nobody at any point thought that Sam was ever going before the third day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Is there a quote from an anonymous GM saying he won't be drafted? “I don’t think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet,” said an NFL player personnel assistant. “In the coming decade or two, it’s going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it’s still a man’s-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It’d chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room.” “I just know with this going on this is going to drop him down,” said a veteran NFL scout. “There’s no question about it. It’s human nature. Do you want to be the team to quote-unquote ‘break that barrier?’” "There are guys in locker rooms that maturity-wise cannot handle it or deal with the thought of that," the assistant coach said. "There's nothing more sensitive than the heartbeat of the locker room. If you knowingly bring someone in there with that sexual orientation, how are the other guys going to deal with it? It's going to be a big distraction. That's the reality. It shouldn't be, but it will be." That will break a tie against that player," the former general manager said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping to the Today show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 “I don’t think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet,” said an NFL player personnel assistant. “In the coming decade or two, it’s going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it’s still a man’s-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It’d chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room.” “I just know with this going on this is going to drop him down,” said a veteran NFL scout. “There’s no question about it. It’s human nature. Do you want to be the team to quote-unquote ‘break that barrier?’” "There are guys in locker rooms that maturity-wise cannot handle it or deal with the thought of that," the assistant coach said. "There's nothing more sensitive than the heartbeat of the locker room. If you knowingly bring someone in there with that sexual orientation, how are the other guys going to deal with it? It's going to be a big distraction. That's the reality. It shouldn't be, but it will be." That will break a tie against that player," the former general manager said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping to the Today show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'" Those arent the decision makers...they're just quotes. I'm sure you'll be able to find a scout or assistant who'd say the opposite. I bet the majority would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Those arent the decision makers...they're just quotes. I'm sure you'll be able to find a scout or assistant who'd say the opposite. I bet the majority would. That's fine and good but did you actually read Magary's column or just the headline and first graf? Peter King quoted an NFL GM who said he doesn't think Sam is a good player. This was an hour after hearing the news. You don't think that will grow before draft day. The only way Sam is drafted IMO opinion is if he has a monster combine and pro day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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