The 1-5 start isnt Rex Ryan's fault

[jetsjets]

http://nypost.com/2014/10/14/calvin-pace-nfl-had-it-out-for-jets-with-brutal-schedule/

I rest my case

[IPBanBadPosters]

http://nypost.com/2014/10/14/calvin-pace-nfl-had-it-out-for-jets-with-brutal-schedule/

I rest my case

 

[SpartanJet]

Actually this hard first half will probably save Wrex.  When we win 4-5 of the last 7 I'm sure we will hear how this team improved in the second half and boyitellya there is no quit.  This way the people on the fence will go back to forgetting how bad of a coach Rex is.

[Latinlawyer]

Rex has to go..6 years and progressively worse each year. Idzik ain't going anywhere..gotta give him a shot with his own HC and 3 more years. He basically gets a mulligan for the past two years. Geno and rex gotta go. Geno will be the new #2 qb.

[Integrity28]

http://nypost.com/2014/10/14/calvin-pace-nfl-had-it-out-for-jets-with-brutal-schedule/

I rest my case

 

LOL, the NFL should be ashamed of themselves for not lining up a bunch of easy match ups for us.

 

The fact that Jets players are talking about the NFL screwing them with the schedule as an excuse, likely means that Rex is talking about it too.

[broadway.joe.12]

Marty morneinwhig the off coordinator and his 30 ranked offense out of 32 teams is partial blame

The lack of talent thanks to john idzik is partial blame

And the absence of a response to the disaster to do anything about

the embarrassment of the jets by owner woody johnson is most to blame

[SAR I]

I've been critical of Rex but in all reality the failure isn't on Rex Ryan

Mark Sanchez/Geno Smith same results.

Worst WRs in the NFL the last few years

Worst secondary in the NFL the last few years

The lack of an edge rusher

Slowest LBs in the NFL

Re-tread RBs

An offensive line that many consider mediocre at best

GM John Idzik 2 terrible drafts very few free-agents signed

Discuss

Rex Ryan's name is all over this roster, that's the problem.

You want to let him off the hook for the last two drafts? Go right ahead but the problem is the guy has been here through two regimes, and the Rex Ryan Strategy of winning with a dominant defense is as old as his father Buddy, doesn't work in today's NFL.

The entire roster is constructed around his whimsical fantasies of re-creating the 1985 Chicago bears and that is what is wrong with the New York Jets. Idzik, Tannenbaum, they are asked to build a roster catering to Rex Ryan's strategies and concepts. Until we remove this overly defensive and out of touch ideology we will never move forward.

So, yeah, the 1-5 start is entirely Rex Ryan's fault.

SAR I

[T0mShane]

I'm home sick today, and was going to write a post detailing a revised history where Rex Ryan and Tannenbaum don't screw the pooch, Ryan delivers on his early promise, and thereby wins a title. Upon doing a little research, I came upon the period bridging the 2010 and 2011 seasons, then said "**** that." This, more than any other, is where Ryan put his stamp on the team and began the plummet to where we are now. To wit:

 

 

 

Departures:

 

--Damien Woody

--Tony Richardson

--Shaun Ellis

--Kris Jenkins

--Jerricho Cotchery

 

 

Arrivals/Extensions:

 

--Plaxico Burress

--Derrick Mason

--Santonio Holmes (extended for 5 yrs/$50 mil)

--Antonio Cromartie (re-signed)

 

 

 

     Jenkins, Woody, and Richardson retired. Ellis signed a $4 mil deal with the Pats, and Cotchery went to the Steelers. In effect, the Jets lost their entire leadership group in the locker room within the span of three months. To replace that group, the Rex Jets went out and gave Burress (fresh out of prison) $3 mil, handed Santonio Holmes job security, and signed Derrick Mason (who was thrown out of Baltimore). Then, after spending entire weeks flying around the country on Woody Johnson's jet trying to give Nnamdi Asomugha $12 mil per (to the delight of Darrelle Revis), had to turn around and give Antonio Cromartie $9 million dollars to stick around. This was the turning point in the Rex regime: coming off the 11-5 2010 season, losing the leaders in the locker room, then importing and empowering some of the biggest thug-turds in the history of sport to surround their young, emo QB--all with Rex Ryan's fingerprints on each signing. He loved Holmes, knew Mason ("He's gonna catch 80 passes here"), and raved about Plaxico Burress from his Steelers days. The Mason and Burress signings were particularly egregious, considering how their prior employers and QBs felt about them (Eli wouldn't even call Burress; Flacco and former coach Brian Billick both diplomatically referred to Mason as an a$$hole). This was also the offseason where Rex handed Scotty McKnight an NFL job because he thought it would be funny to bring in one of Sanchez's buddies.

 

The end result is that 1. The locker room turned into Attica; 2. Chasing Nnamdi around handed Revis a contractual starting point that they would never be able to meet, and 3. The organization completely emasculated Sanchez, ending any hope of getting anything out of him long-term. Mason was so hostile towards Sanchez, and was having such a divisive impact in the locker room, that they had to get him off the roster in October. 

 

In the name of swagger and adding to Rex's pirate ship mentality, wherein he brings in the league's outcasts and, through the force of his personality, "fixes" them.

 

To be oblivious to the fact that losing the bulk of your locker-room leadership while bringing in widely-acknowledged cancers might be a problem is where Rex hung himself. You can blame Tannenbaum for not interceding here, but (as detailed in Collison Low Crossers), Rex was in complete control of the roster at this time. If you're wondering why there's a void of talent on this team, and why Idzik hasn't filled that void in the span of 22 months, it's because the coach, for four years, thought that building a roster was like the scene in The Longest Yard (the remake, of course) where Sandler convinces Michael Irvin and Nelly to play for him. 

[Integrity28]

I'm home sick today, and was going to write a post detailing a revised history where Rex Ryan and Tannenbaum don't screw the pooch, Ryan delivers on his early promise, and thereby wins a title. Upon doing a little research, I came upon the period bridging the 2010 and 2011 seasons, then said "**** that." This, more than any other, is where Ryan put his stamp on the team and began the plummet to where we are now. To wit:

 

 

 

Departures:

 

--Damien Woody

--Tony Richardson

--Shaun Ellis

--Kris Jenkins

--Jerricho Cotchery

 

 

Arrivals/Extensions:

 

--Plaxico Burress

--Derrick Mason

--Santonio Holmes (extended for 5 yrs/$50 mil)

--Antonio Cromartie (re-signed)

 

 

 

     Jenkins, Woody, and Richardson retired. Ellis signed a $4 mil deal with the Pats, and Cotchery went to the Steelers. In effect, the Jets lost their entire leadership group in the locker room within the span of three months. To replace that group, the Rex Jets went out and gave Burress (fresh out of prison) $3 mil, handed Santonio Holmes job security, and signed Derrick Mason (who was thrown out of Baltimore). Then, after spending entire weeks flying around the country on Woody Johnson's jet trying to give Nnamdi Asomugha $12 mil per (to the delight of Darrelle Revis), had to turn around and give Antonio Cromartie $9 million dollars to stick around. This was the turning point in the Rex regime: coming off the 11-5 2010 season, losing the leaders in the locker room, then importing and empowering some of the biggest thug-turds in the history of sport to surround their young, emo QB--all with Rex Ryan's fingerprints on each signing. He loved Holmes, knew Mason ("He's gonna catch 80 passes here"), and raved about Plaxico Burress from his Steelers days. The Mason and Burress signings were particularly egregious, considering how their prior employers and QBs felt about them (Eli wouldn't even call Burress; Flacco and former coach Brian Billick both diplomatically referred to Mason as an a$$hole). This was also the offseason where Rex handed Scotty McKnight an NFL job because he thought it would be funny to bring in one of Sanchez's buddies.

 

The end result is that 1. The locker room turned into Attica; 2. Chasing Nnamdi around handed Revis a contractual starting point that they would never be able to meet, and 3. The organization completely emasculated Sanchez, ending any hope of getting anything out of him long-term. Mason was so hostile towards Sanchez, and was having such a divisive impact in the locker room, that they had to get him off the roster in October. 

 

In the name of swagger and adding to Rex's pirate ship mentality, wherein he brings in the league's outcasts and, through the force of his personality, "fixes" them.

 

To be oblivious to the fact that losing the bulk of your locker-room leadership while bringing in widely-acknowledged cancers might be a problem is where Rex hung himself. You can blame Tannenbaum for not interceding here, but (as detailed in Collison Low Crossers), Rex was in complete control of the roster at this time. If you're wondering why there's a void of talent on this team, and why Idzik hasn't filled that void in the span of 22 months, it's because the coach, for four years, thought that building a roster was like the scene in The Longest Yard (the remake, of course) where Sandler convinces Michael Irvin and Nelly to play for him. 

 

Like I was saying...

[Jetsfan80]

I'm home sick today, and was going to write a post detailing a revised history where Rex Ryan and Tannenbaum don't screw the pooch, Ryan delivers on his early promise, and thereby wins a title. Upon doing a little research, I came upon the period bridging the 2010 and 2011 seasons, then said "**** that." This, more than any other, is where Ryan put his stamp on the team and began the plummet to where we are now. To wit:

 

 

 

Departures:

 

--Damien Woody

--Tony Richardson

--Shaun Ellis

--Kris Jenkins

--Jerricho Cotchery

 

 

Arrivals/Extensions:

 

--Plaxico Burress

--Derrick Mason

--Santonio Holmes (extended for 5 yrs/$50 mil)

--Antonio Cromartie (re-signed)

 

 

 

     Jenkins, Woody, and Richardson retired. Ellis signed a $4 mil deal with the Pats, and Cotchery went to the Steelers. In effect, the Jets lost their entire leadership group in the locker room within the span of three months. To replace that group, the Rex Jets went out and gave Burress (fresh out of prison) $3 mil, handed Santonio Holmes job security, and signed Derrick Mason (who was thrown out of Baltimore). Then, after spending entire weeks flying around the country on Woody Johnson's jet trying to give Nnamdi Asomugha $12 mil per (to the delight of Darrelle Revis), had to turn around and give Antonio Cromartie $9 million dollars to stick around. This was the turning point in the Rex regime: coming off the 11-5 2010 season, losing the leaders in the locker room, then importing and empowering some of the biggest thug-turds in the history of sport to surround their young, emo QB--all with Rex Ryan's fingerprints on each signing. He loved Holmes, knew Mason ("He's gonna catch 80 passes here"), and raved about Plaxico Burress from his Steelers days. The Mason and Burress signings were particularly egregious, considering how their prior employers and QBs felt about them (Eli wouldn't even call Burress; Flacco and former coach Brian Billick both diplomatically referred to Mason as an a$$hole). This was also the offseason where Rex handed Scotty McKnight an NFL job because he thought it would be funny to bring in one of Sanchez's buddies.

 

The end result is that 1. The locker room turned into Attica; 2. Chasing Nnamdi around handed Revis a contractual starting point that they would never be able to meet, and 3. The organization completely emasculated Sanchez, ending any hope of getting anything out of him long-term. Mason was so hostile towards Sanchez, and was having such a divisive impact in the locker room, that they had to get him off the roster in October. 

 

In the name of swagger and adding to Rex's pirate ship mentality, wherein he brings in the league's outcasts and, through the force of his personality, "fixes" them.

 

To be oblivious to the fact that losing the bulk of your locker-room leadership while bringing in widely-acknowledged cancers might be a problem is where Rex hung himself. You can blame Tannenbaum for not interceding here, but (as detailed in Collison Low Crossers), Rex was in complete control of the roster at this time. If you're wondering why there's a void of talent on this team, and why Idzik hasn't filled that void in the span of 22 months, it's because the coach, for four years, thought that building a roster was like the scene in The Longest Yard (the remake, of course) where Sandler convinces Michael Irvin and Nelly to play for him. 

 

 

This is one of your better critiques of the Jet organization/Rex.  While Rex did things with Mangini's roster that Mangini himself could never have done (beat the Pats in Foxboro in the playoffs), it seems clear that after the 2009 season Rex was treated like a golden god, moreso than he should have, and given the keys to a lot/most of the personnnel shift.  That was where we needed a stronger front office, not a putz like Tannenbaum.

 

Tannenbaum was clearly a problem.  So was Sanchez.  But Rex became one and stuck around.  And it all points back to Woody.

[T0mShane]

This is one of your better critiques of the Jet organization/Rex.  While Rex did things with Mangini's roster that Mangini himself could never have done (beat the Pats in Foxboro in the playoffs), it seems clear that after the 2009 season Rex was treated like a golden god, moreso than he should have, and given the keys to a lot/most of the personnnel shift.  That was where we needed a stronger front office, not a putz like Tannenbaum.

 

Tannenbaum was clearly a problem.  So was Sanchez.  But Rex became one and stuck around.  And it all points back to Woody.

 

 

Also a cautionary tale towards giving Harbaugh, or any Head Coach, total control. 

[JiFtheOracle]

Rex has a lot of times on his hands to have such a big impact on every aspect of the entire Jets organization.  He's on the road scouting, he's making calls to agents, he's wheeling and dealing contracts, he's targeting every player on the market, catering in lunch, ordering new equipment, he's on the TV, he's on the big screen,he's watching tape, ignoring the offense of course, licking feet...Where does one man find all this time?  And why does anyone else even work for the Jets if Rex does everything and anything that is required for a Football team?

 

Change the name to New York Rex's.  

[Jetsfan80]

Also a cautionary tale towards giving Harbaugh, or any Head Coach, total control. 

 

Like Harbaugh would ever come here anyways.  What a mess.

[Jetsfan80]

Rex has a lot of times on his hands to have such a big impact on every aspect of the entire Jets organization.  He's on the road scouting, he's making calls to agents, he's wheeling and dealing contracts, he's targeting every player on the market, catering in lunch, ordering new equipment, he's on the TV, he's on the big screen,he's watching tape, ignoring the offense of course, licking feet...Where does one man find all this time?  And why does anyone else even work for the Jets if Rex does everything and anything that is required for a Football team?

 

Change the name to New York Rex's.  

 

Being a HC in the NFL is one of the most demanding positions (time wise) for a reason.  I don't think Rex makes a lot of the bottom of the roster decisions but some of the more visible moves have certainly been heavily endorsed by him.  A couple have worked out pretty well (Tomlinson, Cromartie).  Others not so much.  Tannenbaum still got, rightfully, a large part of that blame (and was fired), as he handed us a lot of crippling contracts and a sh*t-bag QB.  But it's very difficult not to tie some of the roster to Rex too.  It just speaks to overall organization dysfunction that no one seems to know just who is in charge at various points in the last 6 years.

 

Time to start over.

[Warfish]

Nothing bad is ever Wrecks' fault; he's only responsible for the good things (however few they may be) that happen to this team. He is the greatest HC in team (if not league) history, and should be given a lifetime extension.

 

 

Rex would make a great Owner. 

[Integrity28]

Rex has a lot of times on his hands to have such a big impact on every aspect of the entire Jets organization.  He's on the road scouting, he's making calls to agents, he's wheeling and dealing contracts, he's targeting every player on the market, catering in lunch, ordering new equipment, he's on the TV, he's on the big screen,he's watching tape, ignoring the offense of course, licking feet...Where does one man find all this time?  And why does anyone else even work for the Jets if Rex does everything and anything that is required for a Football team?

 

Change the name to New York Rex's.  

 

This is quite possibly the dumbest post you've ever cobbled together. 

 

That's saying something.

[T0mShane]

This is quite possibly the dumbest post you've ever cobbled together. 

 

That's saying something.

 

 

I was trying to think of a time where JiF was right in his assessment of anything Jets related. Over the last six years, he's gone to bat for Sanchez, Holmes, and Rex. Can you think of an instance where he was right? I'm struggling.

[JiFtheOracle]

Being a HC in the NFL is one of the most demanding positions (time wise) for a reason.  I don't think Rex makes a lot of the bottom of the roster decisions but some of the more visible moves have certainly been heavily endorsed by him.  A couple have worked out pretty well (Tomlinson, Cromartie).  Others not so much.  Tannenbaum still got, rightfully, a large part of that blame (and was fired), as he handed us a lot of crippling contracts and a sh*t-bag QB.  But it's very difficult not to tie some of the roster to Rex too.  It just speaks to overall organization dysfunction that no one seems to know just who is in charge at various points in the last 6 years.

 

Time to start over.

 

Brand new GM steps in and gives complete control to the Head Coach.  Makes sense.  Thats how most people operate.  Idzik's not trying to make a name for himself or anything, so yeah, just let Rex do whatever he wants to do, with no limits.  That's totally the type of guy Idzik seems like.  Just step in and hand over every single aspect of running a Football team to Rex.  He doesnt want a part.  At all.  This is Rex's baby and Idzik is just chilin collecting a check.

 

Did you know, Rex also knits the uniforms before each game?  He forgets the offense though.  Go figure. 

[Latinlawyer]

I'm home sick today, and was going to write a post detailing a revised history where Rex Ryan and Tannenbaum don't screw the pooch, Ryan delivers on his early promise, and thereby wins a title. Upon doing a little research, I came upon the period bridging the 2010 and 2011 seasons, then said "**** that." This, more than any other, is where Ryan put his stamp on the team and began the plummet to where we are now. To wit:

 

 

 

Departures:

 

--Damien Woody

--Tony Richardson

--Shaun Ellis

--Kris Jenkins

--Jerricho Cotchery

 

 

Arrivals/Extensions:

 

--Plaxico Burress

--Derrick Mason

--Santonio Holmes (extended for 5 yrs/$50 mil)

--Antonio Cromartie (re-signed)

 

 

 

     Jenkins, Woody, and Richardson retired. Ellis signed a $4 mil deal with the Pats, and Cotchery went to the Steelers. In effect, the Jets lost their entire leadership group in the locker room within the span of three months. To replace that group, the Rex Jets went out and gave Burress (fresh out of prison) $3 mil, handed Santonio Holmes job security, and signed Derrick Mason (who was thrown out of Baltimore). Then, after spending entire weeks flying around the country on Woody Johnson's jet trying to give Nnamdi Asomugha $12 mil per (to the delight of Darrelle Revis), had to turn around and give Antonio Cromartie $9 million dollars to stick around. This was the turning point in the Rex regime: coming off the 11-5 2010 season, losing the leaders in the locker room, then importing and empowering some of the biggest thug-turds in the history of sport to surround their young, emo QB--all with Rex Ryan's fingerprints on each signing. He loved Holmes, knew Mason ("He's gonna catch 80 passes here"), and raved about Plaxico Burress from his Steelers days. The Mason and Burress signings were particularly egregious, considering how their prior employers and QBs felt about them (Eli wouldn't even call Burress; Flacco and former coach Brian Billick both diplomatically referred to Mason as an a$$hole). This was also the offseason where Rex handed Scotty McKnight an NFL job because he thought it would be funny to bring in one of Sanchez's buddies.

 

The end result is that 1. The locker room turned into Attica; 2. Chasing Nnamdi around handed Revis a contractual starting point that they would never be able to meet, and 3. The organization completely emasculated Sanchez, ending any hope of getting anything out of him long-term. Mason was so hostile towards Sanchez, and was having such a divisive impact in the locker room, that they had to get him off the roster in October. 

 

In the name of swagger and adding to Rex's pirate ship mentality, wherein he brings in the league's outcasts and, through the force of his personality, "fixes" them.

 

To be oblivious to the fact that losing the bulk of your locker-room leadership while bringing in widely-acknowledged cancers might be a problem is where Rex hung himself. You can blame Tannenbaum for not interceding here, but (as detailed in Collison Low Crossers), Rex was in complete control of the roster at this time. If you're wondering why there's a void of talent on this team, and why Idzik hasn't filled that void in the span of 22 months, it's because the coach, for four years, thought that building a roster was like the scene in The Longest Yard (the remake, of course) where Sandler convinces Michael Irvin and Nelly to play for him. 

Tom,

 

That was masterful. Rex is done, the shenanigans with loyalty have to go. You cannot reward players who play badly with MORE playing time and tenure. Sorry Rex...you have to leave. Geno must go as well. Not a franchise qb...

[Jetsfan80]

Brand new GM steps in and gives complete control to the Head Coach.  Makes sense.  Thats how most people operate.  Idzik's not trying to make a name for himself or anything, so yeah, just let Rex do whatever he wants to do, with no limits.  That's totally the type of guy Idzik seems like.  Just step in and hand over every single aspect of running a Football team to Rex.  He doesnt want a part.  At all.  This is Rex's baby and Idzik is just chilin collecting a check.

 

Did you know, Rex also knits the uniforms before each game?  He forgets the offense though.  Go figure. 

 

Never said Idzik gave Rex control.  I think mostly Idzik has been the adult in the room we needed.  But we need to see some positives come out of these drafts or else he'll be gone too soon enough.  He also needs to nail his hiring of the next HC.

 

Woody Johnson is the biggest problem with this franchise (obviously) but he's not selling the team and he seems to be in good health.  So until then we have to simply hope Idzik really does know what he's doing, or else Woody will get a chance to fail with his next GM selection.

[JiFtheOracle]

This is quite possibly the dumbest post you've ever cobbled together. 

 

That's saying something.

 

Its losing effect.  You say this about every one of my posts. 

 

You need new material.  Sorry I havent been providing enough for you to steal lately.

 

I was trying to think of a time where JiF was right in his assessment of anything Jets related. Over the last six years, he's gone to bat for Sanchez, Holmes, and Rex. Can you think of an instance where he was right? I'm struggling.

 

BURN!!!!!

 

OMG - WHY DO I POST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JiFtheOracle]

Never said Idzik gave Rex control.  I think mostly Idzik has been the adult in the room we needed.  But we need to see some positives come out of these drafts or else he'll be gone too soon enough.  He also needs to nail his hiring of the next HC.

 

Woody Johnson is the biggest problem with this franchise (obviously) but he's not selling the team and he seems to be in good health.  So until then we have to simply hope Idzik really does know what he's doing, or else Woody will get a chance to fail with his next GM selection.

 

Did you know Rex also does the field maintenance?  

[Jetsfan80]

Did you know Rex also does the field maintenance?  

 

He does a nice job with that. 

[JiFtheOracle]

He does a nice job with that. 

 

Its probably his best quality.  Wonder if they keep him around at the end of the season just to keep it looking pristine?

[Jetsfan80]

Its probably his best quality.  Wonder if they keep him around at the end of the season just to keep it looking pristine?

 

I'd be willing to bring him back as a Defensive Line Coach / Field maintenance combo.

[Matt39]

He does a nice job with that.

That field turf doesn't cut itself.

[Integrity28]

Its losing effect.  You say this about every one of my posts. 

 

You need new material.  Sorry I havent been providing enough for you to steal lately.

 

 

BURN!!!!!

 

OMG - WHY DO I POST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You keep out-doing yourself. Don't blame me.

[Integrity28]

I was trying to think of a time where JiF was right in his assessment of anything Jets related. Over the last six years, he's gone to bat for Sanchez, Holmes, and Rex. Can you think of an instance where he was right? I'm struggling.

 

No.

[LurkerKing]

Science Definition of "Control"

"To verify or regulate a scientific experiment by conducting a parallel experiment or by comparing with another standard. A standard of comparison for checking or verifying the results of an experiment. An individual or group used as a standard of comparison in a control experiment."

[JiFtheOracle]

How did the Ravens and Titans with that terrible devious man, Derrick Mason?

 

How did the Steelers win a Super Bowl with Santonio Holmes?

 

How did the Giants win a Super Bowl with Plaxico Burress? 

 

These guys brought this organization to its knees but won SB's with the other teams. Weird.

[T0mShane]

How did the Ravens and Titans with that terrible devious man, Derrick Mason?

How did the Steelers win a Super Bowl with Santonio Holmes?

How did the Giants win a Super Bowl with Plaxico Burress?

These guys brought this organization to its knees but won SB's with the other teams. Weird.

Good question. Why do you suppose those players had success elsewhere, but were problems for Rex Ryan?

[Jetsfan80]

Good question. Why do you suppose those players had success elsewhere, but were problems for Rex Ryan?

 

None of those orgs brought in multiple malcontents at the same time too.  The "money zone" for sociopaths is 1-3 (I.E. Ray Lewis, James Harrison, etc).  Anything more than that and your lockerroom crumbles.  Any fewer and your team lacks toughness. 

 

It was even worse for us since, as you mentioned, most of our veteran leadership was gone after 2009, leaving just Mangold around as the "old guard" to deal with this influx of cancers.

[detjetsfan69]

It's not all Rex's fault but he has not done a good job this year.  Too many stupid penalties.  The defense gives up way too many long drives.  Walter Powell is allowed to continue to muff punts after he fumbles.  Idzik is the main culprit for the 3-13 season but Rex is absolutely at fault too.

[detjetsfan69]

How did the Ravens and Titans with that terrible devious man, Derrick Mason?

 

How did the Steelers win a Super Bowl with Santonio Holmes?

 

How did the Giants win a Super Bowl with Plaxico Burress? 

 

These guys brought this organization to its knees but won SB's with the other teams. Weird.

Silly to blame Rex for that.  Holmes and Buress were in their physical primes when they won super bowls for the Steelers and Titans.  When both of them got here they were past their primes and all that was left was their emotional baggage and personality disorders.  Derrick Mason was just done.

[JiFtheOracle]

Good question. Why do you suppose those players had success elsewhere, but were problems for Rex Ryan?

 

SO MANY PROBLEMS!!!!