JetNation Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Speculation regarding what will likely be the firing of Head Coach Rex Ryan, and the possible dumping of second-year General Manager John Idzik has reached what seems to be an all-time high. Many Jets fans and beat writers have already moved on in their collective minds as Rex’s ouster is all but certain at this point. Reports have already begun to surface linking the Jets to current San Francisco 49ers Head Coach Jim Harbaugh as there are reportedly irreconcilable differences between the coach and 49ers ownership. The regression of his dynamic young quarterback can’t be helping matters much either for the offensive guru. Countless fans have chosen to focus on Idzik as the fall gay and feel the need to move on to a new General Manager after what has been a complete failure to assemble a legitimate contender up to this point. Since taking over two seasons ago, the Jets have become significantly worse in multiple areas under Idzik, and that has been reflected in their declining performance. One thing that seems to have been lost in all of these assumptions is that the man in charge, Woody Johnson, has said close to nothing in regards to the futures of either of the two men. When asked about Ryan’s status prior to the start of the season, Johnson made it clear that missing the playoffs for a fourth consecutive year would not be the sole contributing factor in his decision to retain or fire Ryan. There is always the possibility that Johnson will take in to account the opinions of former players and coaches who have accused Idzik of assembling an inferior roster that was bound to produce a season like the one that’s unfolding before us. That could work in Ryan’s favor, but what works against Ryan is that despite the lack of talent at his disposal, there have been too many coaching gaffes that can’t be attributed to personnel. At the top of the list would have to be questionable offensive game plans. Knowing he was going to be outmanned for much of the season, Ryan would have done himself a big favor by playing to the team’s offensive strength by feeding the ball to Chris Ivory and Chris Johnson on a consistent basis. The Jets running game is far from what it was just a few years ago, but with Geno Smith under center, running the ball was always going to give them the best chance to win. Despite dropping a head to head match-up in New England to the Patriots earlier this year, that game was arguably the best showing the Jets’ offense produced this season. Despite the loss, the Jets scored a season-high 25 points and rushed for over 200 yards. They consistently pounded the ball in what was Smith’s only turnover-free start of the year as the Jets tried to rein him in and put a stop to his 20 interception pace. If the Jets had used this philosophy from the start, there is every reason to believe they would have been a more competitive team and significantly improved their putrid turnover differential of -12 . Marty Mornhinweg is the man calling the plays, but Rex Ryan is the Head Coach, and ultimately it’s up to him to dictate the game plan to his coordinator. In Idzik’s case, Johnson came out in support of the GM not long ago when speaking to the media and echoed Idzik’s plan to “build through the draft” and said the Jets would rarely make big or pricey splashes in free agency. The problem with that however, is that while it’s still early, Idzik’s drafts have been horrendous, and just a couple of weeks after making those comments the GM reached out and traded for high-priced veteran receiver Percy Harvin. So shortly after his boss supported his blueprint for success, Idzik made a move that contradicted the entire philosophy. So much for that plan. So as the Jets prepare to take on the Miami Dolphins on the national stage that is Monday Night Football, we’re all left asking, what is Woody thinking? The only move that would seem to make no sense at all would be to keep both Ryan and Idzik around for another season. Johnson has every right to move on and fire both men, but will he seek some continuity within the organization and allow Idzik one last shot to assemble a contender? Of the two, Ryan is the more likely candidate to be cut loose, but Jets fans fear the possibilities of another draft with John Idzik calling the shots, all while possibly holding a top two or three pick. For now we can only ask what Woody is thinking, but in just five weeks, we’ll all have our answer. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Just in case you meant "caption this photo" Deep thinker that Woody is he is pondering why he has more hair growing out of his nose than he now has on top of his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Idzik is a fall gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Just in case you meant "caption this photo" Deep thinker that Woody is he is pondering why he has more hair growing out of his nose than he now has on top of his head. What the hell, man? Who walks around like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 What the hell, man? Who walks around like that? billionaires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 billionaires Yeah but he's wearing expensive clothes and glasses and does other things - like wearing a baseball hat to cover his bald head even when he's wearing (probably) a custom suit that cost thousands. In other words, he's doing things appearance-wise that clearly indicate he is mindful of what others think of his appearance. And even if he doesn't, it's completely disgusting. I'm not saying he should be waxing the insides of his nostrils. But you can't walk around with grass blades popping out like that. You just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Good! I'm glad he's not saying anything. It's about what he does at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I have to think that Woody is thinking that he's got to make major moves this season to get things turned around. Winning sells and he is all about making money. He is going to do everything necessary to make sure that the Jets are back in the headlines and back in the winning column come next September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I have to think that Woody is thinking that he's got to make major moves this season to get things turned around. Winning sells and he is all about making money. He is going to do everything necessary to make sure that the Jets are back in the headlines and back in the winning column come next September. Articles with Jets tickets going for $10 is not good publicity and he knows that. There will be major changes because it's not getting better this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPBanBadPosters Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Let's hope he realizes that he made a huge mistake by not cleaning house entirely 2 years ago, and is thinking of rectifying that by doing so on Black Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 At the top of the list would have to be questionable offensive game plans. Knowing he was going to be outmanned for much of the season, Ryan would have done himself a big favor by playing to the team’s offensive strength by feeding the ball to Chris Ivory and Chris Johnson on a consistent basis. The Jets running game is far from what it was just a few years ago, but with Geno Smith under center, running the ball was always going to give them the best chance to win. The Jets are 5th in the league in rushing. There's no amount of handing the ball off that will overcome having an incompetent QB. Couple that with street free agents at CB and there are times when the Jets are down two TD's before halftime. Running the ball isn't going to help with that situation either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Winning sells and he is all about making money. Losing is probably making him more money. Woody only spent 100 mil on a 133 mil cap. (and that's with Harvin, before he showed up it was more like 95) He pocketed the rest of that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The Jets are 5th in the league in rushing. There's no amount of handing the ball off that will overcome having an incompetent QB. Couple that with street free agents at CB and there are times when the Jets are down two TD's before halftime. Running the ball isn't going to help with that situation either. Fewer throws means fewer ints. You can't overcome the worst QB play in the NFL, but you can sure as hell try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Losing is probably making him more money. Woody only spent 100 mil on a 133 mil cap. (and that's with Harvin, before he showed up it was more like 95) He pocketed the rest of that money. This. Woody is arguably the worst businessman of the 32 NFL Owners. The only way he knows how to make money is to copy what used to be the small-market MLB plan - suck, save on payroll and pocket revenue sharing (in MLB's case it was pocket whatever the Yankees were paying in luxury tax). Idsuck is going nowhere. The Giants will hire Darrell Bevel who is his #1 choice to replace Rex (which will be a giant FU to Woody and the Jets) and we'll be stuck with Dan Quinn who is just another glorified DC. Idsuck will then pass on Winston and draft a another crappy DB in the first round he does that every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This. Woody is arguably the worst businessman of the 32 NFL Owners. The only way he knows how to make money is to copy what used to be the small-market MLB plan - suck, save on payroll and pocket revenue sharing (in MLB's case it was pocket whatever the Yankees were paying in luxury tax). Idsuck is going nowhere. The Giants will hire Darrell Bevel who is his #1 choice to replace Rex (which will be a giant FU to Woody and the Jets) and we'll be stuck with Dan Quinn who is just another glorified DC. Idsuck will then pass on Winston and draft a another crappy DB in the first round he does that every year. In all fairness to Woody, the majority of the years that he owned this team, the team was up against the cap, and always re-structuring contracts to give more room. That means giving out bonuses and lengthening contracts. Not exactly the mark of a miser. Let's keep things fair here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 In all fairness to Woody, the majority of the years that he owned this team, the team was up against the cap, and always re-structuring contracts to give more room. That means giving out bonuses and lengthening contracts. Not exactly the mark of a miser. Let's keep things fair here. I think Woody's lost the passion for the team he had earlier on. The Tim Tebow trade was the clear red flag that Woody was no longer interested in winning football. Plus you never know what's going on in the background financially. We didn't know until after the fact that the Wilpons lost money with Madoff. I wouldn't be shocked if Woody lost a ton of money privately he's a horrible businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think Woody's lost the passion for the team he had earlier on. The Tim Tebow trade was the clear red flag that Woody was no longer interested in winning football. The move that preceded Tebow, and made Tebow an option, was hiring Tony Sparano. And that was all on Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I think Woody's lost the passion for the team he had earlier on. The Tim Tebow trade was the clear red flag that Woody was no longer interested in winning football. Plus you never know what's going on in the background financially. We didn't know until after the fact that the Wilpons lost money with Madoff. I wouldn't be shocked if Woody lost a ton of money privately he's a horrible businessman. we need a good racist rant caught on tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The move that preceded Tebow, and made Tebow an option, was hiring Tony Sparano. And that was all on Rex. You really think Tony Soprano is the reason we traded for Tim Teabag? Woody is 1000% the reason we traded for Tebow it did not matter who the OC is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This board is going to be epic when they all return for another season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 You really think Tony Soprano is the reason we traded for Tim Teabag? Woody is 1000% the reason we traded for Tebow it did not matter who the OC is. Sparano was the forerunner of the jets becoming a "wildcat" team, Rex was enamored with the wildcat, as he had difficulty containing it. Without Sparano, Tebow is not much of a thought for the Jets. They did ot have the OC to supposedly use his skills. No accident it was Sparano, then Tebow. Heck, the Jets tried to go after Peyton, however brief that courting may have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This board is going to be epic when they all return for another season. That was an afterthought maybe 3 weeks ago. Chances of it happening now-1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This board is going to be epic when they all return for another season. Oh I'm already saving money for my "Fire Idzik" billboard that's going up on the NJ Turnpike in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That was an afterthought maybe 3 weeks ago. Chances of it happening now-1% I hope you're right. Problem is Woody has no clue what's he doing. He's like a scared little boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 You really think Tony Soprano is the reason we traded for Tim Teabag? Woody is 1000% the reason we traded for Tebow it did not matter who the OC is. What was that bit about blanket statements you posted in the geno thread three minutes ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 "The Continental GT is nice, but the GT Speed would make me feel young again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 He has changed coaches 3 times, in a relatively short tenure. GM's at least twice. It is not like he hasn't made changes before. Heck, Al Groh had a winning record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 He has changed coaches 3 times, in a relatively short tenure. GM's at least twice. It is not like he hasn't made changes before. Heck, Al Groh had a winning record If woody really wants headlines he should host a reality show where 6 fans compete in all sorts of humiliating tasks to see who is most prepared to be the next GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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