AFCEastFan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Which has what to do with trying to compare two or so PED users with the idea that this is the same as organizational cheating like the Pats were found guilty of? It's stupid on every level. Unless you're making the case that Torre handed out syringes? As stupid as idiotic Sox fans crying about ARod right up to their denials over Big Poppy. What organizational cheating are you talking about? Spygate? Or are you making the case that Belichick handed out needles to the equipment guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Yankee trainers shot Roger Clemens up right in the clubhouse. Go Yanks. what do you think was happening to break the curse in 2004? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Steinbrenner was suspended from MLB for associating with mob gamblers. Its OK everyone was doing it. Right dumbazz? best thing to happen to the Yankees at that time, allowed gene Michael to build another Yankee dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The Pats keep winning and the other 31 teams keep whining. And this indeed the consolation pats fans have. They can justify anything by 'we are winning'. Nothing I said changes it, your team will go down in history as cheaters. We look back with some admiration of even rival teams years down the road. The 49ers run, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Dallas, great teams of the past. The legacy of the pats will be that of cheaters 20-30 years from now not a great team. That's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 And this indeed the consolation pats fans have. They can justify anything by 'we are winning'. Nothing I said changes it, your team will go down in history as cheaters. We look back with some admiration of even rival teams years down the road. The 49ers run, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Dallas, great teams of the past. The legacy of the pats will be that of cheaters 20-30 years from now not a great team. That's just the way it is. so you choose to ignore the shenanigans of Bill Walsh, the admitted use of stick um by Jerry Rice, you ignore the steroid use of Pittsburgh? the legacy of the Pats will unfortunately be the greatest dynasty in the SB era whether we whine about them cheating or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 What organizational cheating are you talking about? Spygate? Or are you making the case that Belichick handed out needles to the equipment guys? Spygates a start. Needles? Can anyone read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Spygates a start. Needles? Can anyone read? I don't know. Can you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 so you choose to ignore the shenanigans of Bill Walsh, the admitted use of stick um by Jerry Rice, you ignore the steroid use of Pittsburgh? the legacy of the Pats will unfortunately be the greatest dynasty in the SB era whether we whine about them cheating or not. ^Douchiest pats fan alive. At least the others don't hide in plain sight...they admit that they're Pats blowhards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 so you choose to ignore the shenanigans of Bill Walsh, the admitted use of stick um by Jerry Rice, you ignore the steroid use of Pittsburgh? the legacy of the Pats will unfortunately be the greatest dynasty in the SB era whether we whine about them cheating or not. Only to people like you who are closet pats fans. Many teams bent rules, very few went to the ongoing and outright extent the pats have. The age old argument of 'I can't refute a thing the person says so I will pick out other outside factors to justify my argument' falls flat on its ass here, just like all of the fitz is terrible! becasue I want geno to start arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Have you guys ever noticed the Cheatriots trolls dont post in any threads other than the ones where their insecurity hits home and they feel the need to defend their guilty as charged team? But they dont care and stuff. bwhahahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Yes, because we all know that MLB organizations had no knowledge whatsoever that their players were juicing and were in no way complicit. Right. How could anyone have missed Bonds changing from a relatively slim man into a mountain? Workouts don't make your head/face blow up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Only to people like you who are closet pats fans. Many teams bent rules, very few went to the ongoing and outright extent the pats have. The age old argument of 'I can't refute a thing the person says so I will pick out other outside factors to justify my argument' falls flat on its ass here, just like all of the fitz is terrible! becasue I want geno to start arguments. oh so it's ok to bend rules, got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 ^Douchiest pats fan alive. At least the others don't hide in plain sight...they admit that they're Pats blowhards. you got me, I am a closeted pats fan pretending to be a Jet fan. who would want to enjoy SBs? you are brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I don't know. Can you read? Well if you think I said BB handed out needles or put PED use anywhere in a football context, you can't read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 you got me, I am a closeted pats fan pretending to be a Jet fan. who would want to enjoy SBs? you are brilliant. Engrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Engrish. I forgot you can't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 you got me, I am a closeted pats fan pretending to be a Jet fan. who would want to enjoy SBs? you are brilliant. You literally apologize and glorify the pats more than the pats fans that come onto this site. Truly. You down play any and all of their indiscretions, you ignore any faults with their Qb or coach, you constantly praise them up and wish the jets where what they are. You think the Pats are the greatest thing to happen to this league and you think Mark Sanchez is a great Qb who was most responsible for the team wining some playoff games all the while lambasting Qb's that are 100 times better than 'Mark'. Your core evaluations belong in a dumpster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzogtheDefiler Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 My Red Sox fan friends did not complain about steroids. They complained about the Yankees overspending and buying championships. That is until the Red Sox did the exact same thing. I just want to concentrate on football and not propaganda. I did not mean to attack people personally but the rhetoric is frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 You literally apologize and glorify the pats more than the pats fans that come onto this site. Truly. You down play any and all of their indiscretions, you ignore any faults with their Qb or coach, you constantly praise them up and wish the jets where what they are. You think the Pats are the greatest thing to happen to this league and you think Mark Sanchez is a great Qb who was most responsible for the team wining some playoff games all the while lambasting Qb's that are 100 times better than 'Mark'. Your core evaluations belong in a dumpster. I hate NE but I appreciate greatness. find one post where I called Mark sanchez great? good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 You literally apologize and glorify the pats more than the pats fans that come onto this site. Truly. You down play any and all of their indiscretions, you ignore any faults with their Qb or coach, you constantly praise them up and wish the jets where what they are. You think the Pats are the greatest thing to happen to this league and you think Mark Sanchez is a great Qb who was most responsible for the team wining some playoff games all the while lambasting Qb's that are 100 times better than 'Mark'. Your core evaluations belong in a dumpster. Then he makes argue nets to downplay our successes. Ken O'Brien benefited from more talent and weak division. Sure. Namath and the Jets were lucky with SB III. Amazing. What a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Then he makes argue nets to downplay our successes. Ken O'Brien benefited from more talent and weak division. Sure. Namath and the Jets were lucky with SB III. Amazing. What a fan please try and learn how to read, it will help you not look as foolish when trying to debate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So? Did they announce when he is serving the suspension yet or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Then he makes argue nets to downplay our successes. Ken O'Brien benefited from more talent and weak division. Sure. Namath and the Jets were lucky with SB III. Amazing. What a fan Don't forget, he also has this incredible ability to do this thing called "read" that none of the rest of us on this internet based textual medium possess. I forgot you can't read. please try and learn how to read, it will help you not look as foolish when trying to debate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Don't forget, he also has this incredible ability to do this thing called "read" that none of the rest of us on this internet based textual medium possess. you have proven w/ your misinformed posting that you do not read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 please try and learn how to read, it will help you not look as foolish when trying to debate me. I wasn't talking to you. Trying to debate you is foolish, you don't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I wasn't talking to you. Trying to debate you is foolish, you don't have a clue. it is foolish when you don't know your stuff and have to make stuff up to deflect. if you actually knew your stuff we could have great debates. maybe some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 it is foolish when you don't know your stuff and have to make stuff up to deflect. if you actually knew your stuff we could have great debates. maybe some day. I have yet to see you have a "great debate" with anyone on these boards. I have, however, seen you say something to the effect of the above to basically anyone whom you've had an interaction with since I started actively participating. At what point do you finally realize it's you, and not everyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I have yet to see you have a "great debate" with anyone on these boards. I have, however, seen you say something to the effect of the above to basically anyone whom you've had an interaction with since I started actively participating. At what point do you finally realize it's you, and not everyone else? there have been plenty of great ones, you don't see them b/c when you participate it drags them down. Just b/c you agree w/ jet nut or someone else does not make you right. Jet nut told me I called Mark sanchez great, that invalidates any argument he has as that has NEVER happened but posters like him and you see certain words and your perceptions take over. if I don't say mark sucks I must be saying he is great, if I say the 1968 jets got some breaks along the way I must be saying they were lucky to win the SB. I try to help you guys but some people don't want to be helped, you would prefer to just hurl misinformed insults. I can handle anyone on here so if that is what you must do then I will continue to make you look foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I try to help you guys but some people don't want to be helped, you would prefer to just hurl misinformed insults. I can handle anyone on here so if that is what you must do then I will continue to make you look foolish. there it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So? Did they announce when he is serving the suspension yet or what? Yes. Four game suspended sentence to start the day after he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I don't know about AA baseball, but misinformed insults are 90% of conversation in any football locker room, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 You literally apologize and glorify the pats more than the pats fans that come onto this site. Truly. You down play any and all of their indiscretions, you ignore any faults with their Qb or coach, you constantly praise them up and wish the jets where what they are. You think the Pats are the greatest thing to happen to this league and you think Mark Sanchez is a great Qb who was most responsible for the team wining some playoff games all the while lambasting Qb's that are 100 times better than 'Mark'. Your core evaluations belong in a dumpster. WTF did a dumpster ever do to you!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Yes. Four game suspended sentence to start the day after he retires. Brady will appeal and win again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 it is foolish when you don't know your stuff and have to make stuff up to deflect. if you actually knew your stuff we could have great debates. maybe some day. Yup, the AFCE was easier back in the day, O'Brien had more talent on his Jets than Sanchez, Namath and his Jets were fortunate, Sanchez was the best Jets QB ever, he was the sole reason we made it to back to back AFCCGs. Yeah, its worth it to debate you and your well thought out arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Brady will appeal and win again. If he gets another judge who's in bed with Kraft. Maybe He's still guilty, a cheater is his legacy. No one cleared him or being a 2 time cheater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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