Flushing Roots Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: We are 1-5 with Ryan Fitzpatrick as the starter FACT And that sucks and we should be p*ssed off - FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, Flushing Roots said: And that sucks and we should be p*ssed off - FACT. I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1-5 Great only another 10 games to endure. A loss the Ravens, and Browns,and Bowles may not make it to Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: 1-5 Great only another 10 games to endure. A loss the Ravens, and Browns,and Bowles may not make it to Christmas. he can lose to the ravens and survive but if they lose to cleveland he's out. he does not survive it. while mccags takes some heat for bringing back fitz, what else was he to do, start geno? but the defensive failures are all on bowles, that's why he was brought here, and they gave him revis/leonard/lee/mauldin as new toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 36 minutes ago, j4jets said: Wait, how are you excluding Macc from the blame? IIRC, wasn't he the one that traded for Fitz? Or was it Woody that said "Get me Fitz and I'll sign u up for the GM role"? Fitz is all on Macc and Bowles, from start to finish. So is Wilkerson. If Woody was desperate for Mo, he would've signed long time ago. Lol at you even bringing up the "Giants are class organization" BS. They've just lucked into two SBs and have an average QB playing. I think its very well established how class those Giants are. Your bs about media and fanbase is just that. BS. So you wanna jump the bandwagon. Why not just say so? And yeah, lets move to St. Louis because the last team there loved it. This is a business. If a GM can't handle the media, wtf did he take a job in NY? THis is not a GM problem, this is an organizational problem. Francesca just said it on the radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: THis is not a GM problem, this is an organizational problem. Francesca just said it on the radio Oh, well that settles it. Fatcessa is a Bowles fan. So refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: Oh, well that settles it. Fatcessa is a Bowles fan. So refreshing. He criticized Bowles too. Said that he had no idea what they are doing with Richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: He criticized Bowles too. Said that he had no idea what they are doing with Richardson I don't listen to that lard. He's just stating the obvious there. A GM's job is to not be distracted by the media. That's not the organization's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, j4jets said: I don't listen to that lard. He's just stating the obvious there. A GM's job is to not be distracted by the media. That's not the organization's job. The owner is the problem. That's why I recommended movig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: The owner is the problem. That's why I recommended movig No he's not. We have a sh*t coach. The owner hired consultants to hire a GM and a HC. Not much more he can do besides paying for their mistakes and he's $160+mil for their mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: No he's not. We have a sh*t coach. The owner hired consultants to hire a GM and a HC. Not much more he can do besides paying for their mistakes and he's $160+mil for their mistakes. He is. As Mike said, woody wants the quick fix, which is very rare in the NFL. It is up to him to believe in what Casserly and Wolf said and trust these two. Now Bowles is making it very hard on himself, but Macc should be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Everything is bad on this team. Coach stimey iz making bad decisions all the time. Coaching is the #1 reason we suck. Youll start hearing about it when the mutiny begins around week 10. Players will be leaking rumors. Coach stimey needs to step down and do us all a favor i think he even knowa he is in over his head Coaching and scheming is so bad it's impossible to tell how bad the players really are. Like trying to tell how good a drum set is by smashing it to bits with a baseball bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, HighPitch said: Everything is bad on this team. Coach stimey iz making bad decisions all the time. Coaching is the #1 reason we suck. Youll start hearing about it when the mutiny begins around week 10. Players will be leaking rumors. Coach stimey needs to step down and do us all a favor i think he even knowa he is in over his head LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: THis is not a GM problem, this is an organizational problem. Francesca just said it on the radio He thinks Fitzpatrick should not be benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: Sure you do, that's how you improve your football team. Both Fitz and Mo were terrible moves by the Jets. Fitz was a dreadful move that everyone saw coming. At the time Mo seemed like the right choice picking between him and Sheldon long term. No way to prognosticate Mo shriveling up after getting paid like George Constnza's pecker after a swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, August said: He thinks Fitzpatrick should not be benched. Not yet anyway. He said 1-5 is salvageable and 1-8 is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Fitz was a dreadful move that everyone saw coming. At the time Mo seemed like the right choice picking between him and Sheldon long term. No way to prognosticate Mo shriveling up after getting paid like George Constnza's pecker after a swim. Tell that to the Loud Mouth guys who grew beards to get him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Fitz was a dreadful move that everyone saw coming. At the time Mo seemed like the right choice picking between him and Sheldon long term. No way to prognosticate Mo shriveling up after getting paid like George Constnza's pecker after a swim. Tell that to the Loud Mouth guys who grew beards to get him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 That's why I said if he fired Maccagnan after this year, I am done with this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Not yet anyway. He said 1-5 is salvageable and 1-8 is not But when the QB is playing at a bad level like he has a change needs to be made. Francessa is wrong. What gives us any sense that the QB that has put up 5 TD's and 11 INT's while completing 57% of his passes, will turn it around? His reasoning is asinine. I'd somewhat buy it if Fitzpatrick was even playing average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, August said: But when the QB is playing at a bad level like he has a change needs to be made. Francessa is wrong. What gives us any sense that the QB that has put up 5 TD's and 11 INT's while completing 57% of his passes, will turn it around? His reasoning is asinine. I'd somewhat buy it if Fitzpatrick was even playing average. It's not about the QB. It s about the conviction of having a plan. If he benches Fitz this week, his assertion is that the Jets are flying by the seat of their pants and not sticking to a plan. And he says that apart from the 3 years Parcells was here, there has been no conviction in the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: It's not about the QB. It s about the conviction of having a plan. If he benches Fitz this week, his assertion is that the Jets are flying by the seat of their pants and not sticking to a plan The plan to be 1-5 at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, joewilly12 said: The plan to be 1-5 at this point Francesa said that he expected them to be 2-4. Said that the Jets would have to play great football just to get to 8-8. Says that he had said this prior to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Tell that to the Loud Mouth guys who grew beards to get him back I think they already know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 19 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: He is. As Mike said, woody wants the quick fix, which is very rare in the NFL. It is up to him to believe in what Casserly and Wolf said and trust these two. Now Bowles is making it very hard on himself, but Macc should be back Macc will be back, I know. But he deserves a ton of the blame for the Fitz show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, The Crusher said: I think they already know Well there's an example right there. Media and fans pressuring Woody to act. I think that affected the price of signing him, not actually signing him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: Macc will be back, I know. But he deserves a ton of the blame for the Fitz show. But that goes back to Woody. Mac wanted him back at 7m. Woody caved to the pressure and they paid him 12m. No conviction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: That's why I said if he fired Maccagnan after this year, I am done with this franchise. Please fire Maccaghan - Please Please Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: It's not about the QB. It s about the conviction of having a plan. If he benches Fitz this week, his assertion is that the Jets are flying by the seat of their pants and not sticking to a plan. And he says that apart from the 3 years Parcells was here, there has been no conviction in the organization. So sticking with the worst starting QB in league is justified because of "conviction"? How about benching a guy and showing some accountability; that if you play poorly you lose your job? You think the players wouldn't understand the move? Or would even complain if it happened? Btw what exactly is the "plan"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: But that goes back to Woody. Mac wanted him back at 7m. Woody caved to the pressure and they paid him 12m. No conviction Mac wanted him at 7m? You sure? Cuz I don't recall any of that info being leaked. And if Woody wanted him, he would've gotten his guy on the first day of the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 11 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: But that goes back to Woody. Mac wanted him back at 7m. Woody caved to the pressure and they paid him 12m. No conviction Not totally true Sheldon was convicted of doing 145 mph in a 65 zone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Please fire Maccaghan - Please Please Please Seriously, that'd be the silver lining after this awful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 minute ago, gEYno said: Seriously, that'd be the silver lining after this awful season. I don't want mcCags fired - follow the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UnitedWhofans Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, j4jets said: Mac wanted him at 7m? You sure? Cuz I don't recall any of that info being leaked. And if Woody wanted him, he would've gotten his guy on the first day of the FA. It was leaked before. His initial offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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