flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, TnT said: It’s his 5yr option, it’s guaranteed from what I’ve read. Jason at OTC say's there is 0 dead money, or cap hit. I'll go with that. If you have another link, please post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Blake Bortles Quarterback 2018 Salary Cap Charge: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cap: 9.26% 2018 Cash Payout: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cash Spending: 10.85% 2018 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.00 Total Contract Value: $20,654,802 Annual Contract Value: $5,163,701 Position Ranking: 30/87 at QB Fully Guaranteed Money: $20,654,802 Age: 26 Height: 6' 5" Weight: 232 College: Central Florida Accrued Seasons: 4 Entry: 2014 Draft, Round 1, #3 overall (Jaguars) Year Signed: 2015 Contract Type: Drafted Free Agency: 2019 (UFA) Contract Notes The Jaguars picked up the fifth year option on Bortles for 2018 which is worth $19.053 million. The contract is guaranteed for injury and will become fully guaranteed if Bortles is on the roster on the 1st day or the 2018 league year. Current Contract Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) Cut (post-June 1) Trade (pre-June 1) Trade (post-June 1) Restructure Extension Prorated Roster Workout Other 2014 23 $420,000 $420,000 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $3,755,418 2.8% 2015 24 $1,358,855 $1,358,855 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $4,694,273 3.3% 2016 25 $2,297,710 $2,297,710 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $5,633,128 3.6% 2017 26 $3,236,565 $3,236,565 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $6,571,983 3.9% 2018 27 $19,053,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $19,053,000 10.7% $0 $19,053,000 Total $26,366,130 $13,341,672 $0 $0 $0 $39,707,802 Embed This Contract <iframe src="https://overthecap.com/contract-embed/2942/" width="600" height="366" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: Jason at OTC say's there is 0 dead money, or cap hit. I'll go with that. If you have another link, please post it. Ok i think there are circumstances being Bortles just had surgery on his wrist which makes him uncuttable before the deadline which makes It guaranteed. Sorry, read it a couple weeks back and forgot the readons. So yes, Jason is right...but not if Bortles is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, TnT said: Ok i think there are circumstances being Bortles just had surgery on his wrist which makes him uncuttable before the deadline which makes It guaranteed. Sorry, read it a couple weeks back and forgot the readons. So yes, Jason is right...but not if Bortles is injured. Blake Bortles Quarterback 2018 Salary Cap Charge: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cap: 9.26% 2018 Cash Payout: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cash Spending: 10.85% 2018 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.00 Total Contract Value: $20,654,802 Annual Contract Value: $5,163,701 Position Ranking: 30/87 at QB Fully Guaranteed Money: $20,654,802 Age: 26 Height: 6' 5" Weight: 232 College: Central Florida Accrued Seasons: 4 Entry: 2014 Draft, Round 1, #3 overall (Jaguars) Year Signed: 2015 Contract Type: Drafted Free Agency: 2019 (UFA) Contract Notes The Jaguars picked up the fifth year option on Bortles for 2018 which is worth $19.053 million. The contract is guaranteed for injury and will become fully guaranteed if Bortles is on the roster on the 1st day or the 2018 league year. Current Contract Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) Cut (post-June 1) Trade (pre-June 1) Trade (post-June 1) Restructure Extension Prorated Roster Workout Other 2014 23 $420,000 $420,000 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $3,755,418 2.8% 2015 24 $1,358,855 $1,358,855 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $4,694,273 3.3% 2016 25 $2,297,710 $2,297,710 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $5,633,128 3.6% 2017 26 $3,236,565 $3,236,565 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $6,571,983 3.9% 2018 27 $19,053,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $19,053,000 10.7% $0 $19,053,000 Total $26,366,130 $13,341,672 $0 $0 $0 $39,707,802 Embed This Contract <iframe src="https://overthecap.com/contract-embed/2942/" width="600" height="366" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: Blake Bortles Quarterback 2018 Salary Cap Charge: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cap: 9.26% 2018 Cash Payout: $19,053,000 % of 2018 Team Cash Spending: 10.85% 2018 Cash to Cap Ratio: 1.00 Total Contract Value: $20,654,802 Annual Contract Value: $5,163,701 Position Ranking: 30/87 at QB Fully Guaranteed Money: $20,654,802 Age: 26 Height: 6' 5" Weight: 232 College: Central Florida Accrued Seasons: 4 Entry: 2014 Draft, Round 1, #3 overall (Jaguars) Year Signed: 2015 Contract Type: Drafted Free Agency: 2019 (UFA) Contract Notes The Jaguars picked up the fifth year option on Bortles for 2018 which is worth $19.053 million. The contract is guaranteed for injury and will become fully guaranteed if Bortles is on the roster on the 1st day or the 2018 league year. Current Contract Year Age Base Salary (Guaranteed) Bonuses Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) Cut (post-June 1) Trade (pre-June 1) Trade (post-June 1) Restructure Extension Prorated Roster Workout Other 2014 23 $420,000 $420,000 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $3,755,418 2.8% 2015 24 $1,358,855 $1,358,855 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $4,694,273 3.3% 2016 25 $2,297,710 $2,297,710 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $5,633,128 3.6% 2017 26 $3,236,565 $3,236,565 $3,335,418 $0 $0 $0 $6,571,983 3.9% 2018 27 $19,053,000 $0 $0 $0 $0 $19,053,000 10.7% $0 $19,053,000 Total $26,366,130 $13,341,672 $0 $0 $0 $39,707,802 Embed This Contract <iframe src="https://overthecap.com/contract-embed/2942/" width="600" height="366" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> Bortles just had wrist surgery. He will not be cuttable if he isn’t cleared by the first day which makes it guaranteed....as stated in the “contract notes” on your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, TnT said: Bortles just had wrist surgery. He will not be cuttable if he isn’t cleared by the first day which makes it guaranteed....as stated in the “contract notes” on your post. The wrist surgery was elective surgery. The injury happened early in the season. He played through it. It's certainly nothing that will prevent him from playing 10 games next year. He'd be insane to play that card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, flgreen said: The wrist surgery was elective surgery. The injury happened early in the season. He played through it. It's certainly nothing that will prevent him from playing 10 games next year. He'd be insane to play that card Dude, I’m telling you what I read. If he is not medically cleared by the first day of the season...it becomes guaranteed. Elective surgery or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, flgreen said: The wrist surgery was elective surgery. The injury happened early in the season. He played through it. It's certainly nothing that will prevent him from playing 10 games next year. He'd be insane to play that card Sorry, can’t do much on my phone but paste link... https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/01/30/jaguars-qb-blake-bortles-recovering-from-wrist-surgery/109941826/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TnT said: Dude, I’m telling you what I read. If he is not medically cleared by the first day of the season...it becomes guaranteed. Elective surgery or not. LOL, actually I hope your right. I think the best move for the Jets is to sign Cousins, and use the draft capital, and reminding $50+-M, and the $46M next year to build a team. I'm honestly not concerned about Denver. Jax is the team that makes sense for me, if I was Cousins. Like I said, I hope your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, flgreen said: LOL, actually I hope your right. I think the best move for the Jets is to sign Cousins, and use the draft capital, and reminding $50+-M, and the $46M next year to build a team. I'm honestly not concerned about Denver. Jax is the team that makes sense for me, if I was Cousins, to go to. Like I said, I hope your right Damnit...Don’t you put this on me!!!!! Lol I would just like to look back 4-5 yrs from now and see WE made the right choice,..for once! I like Cousins, and I def think he gives us the better chance to win then the top 3 qbs in the draft over the next 2 yrs....pray Mac puts some complimentary pcs around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The assumption that Denver and the Jets are the 2 leading candidates is bogus and likely completely untrue. Minnesota, Arizona and Buffalo are better landing spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangrene Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 My hunch, despite saying all the right things...that ultimately Cousins will play for whomever will pay him the most insane guaranteed deal imaginable. Jets seem like the team most desperate of the likely Cousins suitors along with having the space to go overboard and fill in roster holes with lots of UDFAs in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 hours ago, TnT said: They can’t dump Bortles without absorbing his fully guaranteed 2018 salary of 19 mil. Of course anything is possible, just more unlikely. Actually, it isn't fully guaranteed. It was only guaranteed for injury last season. Now it wont cost them a dime to cut him assuming they do it before the new league year (march 9th) at which point it THEN becomes fully guaranteed. Free agent contract negotiations begin a couple of days before that. It'd be a squeeze, but they could get Cousins to agree to a deal and then cut Blake before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Tony MaC said: Actually, it isn't fully guaranteed. It was only guaranteed for injury last season. Now it wont cost them a dime to cut him assuming they do it before the new league year (march 9th) at which point it THEN becomes fully guaranteed. Free agent contract negotiations begin a couple of days before that. It'd be a squeeze, but they could get Cousins to agree to a deal and then cut Blake before the deadline. He just had wrist surgery and would have to be cleared. Don’t really know much about recovery time, but 3/9 would make it about 40 days...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 I'm not sure signing Cousins makes a ton of long term sense for the Jags, honestly. Probably gives them a good 2 year Super Bowl window but it could make it very difficult to re-sign a lot of the elite young talent they have. Not that Bortles is the answer but I'd try to get a cheaper alternative with less of a long term commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 16 hours ago, flgreen said: According to OTC, which is seldom wrong, 0 money is guaranteed to Bortles. They save over $19M by cutting him https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/jacksonville-jaguars He had to have off season wrist surgery, which I believe now fully guarentees it. Not 100% though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: I'm not sure signing Cousins makes a ton of long term sense for the Jags, honestly. Probably gives them a good 2 year Super Bowl window but it could make it very difficult to re-sign a lot of the elite young talent they have. Not that Bortles is the answer but I'd try to get a cheaper alternative with less of a long term commitment. I’d be really surprised if they move Bortles. If his surgery prevents him by being cleared before 3/9...they would have to sign whoever in hopes that they can get a trade for Bortles. That means either find a team willing to take on Bortles @ 1 yr 19 mil, which what they get in return would be next to nothing. OR hope Bortles is willing to agree to a sign and trade. I have a hunch not many teams are convinced Bortles is their answer...seems like this year (putting two plus yrs together back to back)would determine whether he gets broken off some real $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, TnT said: I’d be really surprised if they move Bortles. If his surgery prevents him by being cleared before 3/9...they would have to sign whoever in hopes that they can get a trade for Bortles. That means either find a team willing to take on Bortles @ 1 yr 19 mil, which what they get in return would be next to nothing. OR hope Bortles is willing to agree to a sign and trade. I have a hunch not many teams are convinced Bortles is their answer...seems like this year (putting two plus yrs together back to back)would determine whether he gets broken off some real $$$. I agree -- the cheaper alternative would be a draft pick or a cheap vet (McCown type) who would be on the roster with him. If they had a better option than Henne last year I think Bortles would have lost his job early in the season. The current regime has little loyalty to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, chirorob said: He had to have off season wrist surgery, which I believe now fully guarentees it. Not 100% though The surgery isn't expected to cost him any time. Minor surgery Blake Bortles' wrist will be fine by 2018, he'll be a Jag ProFootballDocContact ReporterSports Medical Analyst Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles reportedly had surgery on his throwing wrist for an issue that has been bothering him since the end of the 2016 season. There is no video to analyze, but it obviously was not a big enough concern to do something the previous offseason. Bortles reportedly received injections to quiet down symptoms during the ’17 season. Reports said a slight tear was repaired. The most likely scenario is a wrist cartilage issue, specifically the triangular fibrocarilage complex (TFCC), which is like a small meniscus or cartilage pad on the ulnar (pinky) side of his wrist. That would fit the profile of being able to play and of injections helping. Since it lingered, a simple arthroscopic surgery to trim the tear is indicated. If that is the case, the expected recovery is measured in weeks, and Bortles should be available for the offseason program. The possible hiccup is in the rare instance the TFCC were sewn. That might mean a 3-4 month recovery process. Regardless, Bortles will be fine in plenty of time for training camp. The biggest ramification of the surgery is is that virtually guarantees (if it weren’t already the case) that Bortles will be with the Jaguars in 2018. He has a $19 million guaranteed payment if he is on the roster in mid-March, and he cannot be cut due to injury before that. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-bortles-thumb-jaguarscontract-0130-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, flgreen said: The biggest ramification of the surgery is is that virtually guarantees (if it weren’t already the case) that Bortles will be with the Jaguars in 2018. He has a $19 million guaranteed payment if he is on the roster in mid-March, and he cannot be cut due to injury before that. Lol, the article you posted suggests that it's essentially guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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