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  1. 1. Who do you want?

    • Baker Mayfield
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    • Sam Darnold
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On 6/9/2018 at 10:53 PM, A.J. said:

Rosen has the best arm coming out imo. Dude is silky smooth but everything I’ve heard is that he’s a locker room cancer. If the Cards can get him to mature then he’s a steal where they got him.

Between Mayfield and Donald though, NYJ got the better player. Baker might be more ready to play now but Sam’s ceiling is way higher. Having a solid vet to learn under in McCown is perfect too. Darnold was always the better prospect for the Jets’ QB situation.

I don’t know where the talk about Rosen being a locker room cancer comes from...it couldn’t be more untrue.  He’s outspoken, intelligent and liberal.  People hate that for some reason.  

Josh was well liked and respected, he spoke up for his teammates and pointed out how too many of them did not have the advantages he had, including the quality of education in elementary and high school to prepare them to be student/athletes in a major D1 university.  

The narrative comes from the media that doesn’t like him. 

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12 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

I don’t know where the talk about Rosen being a locker room cancer comes from...it couldn’t be more untrue.  He’s outspoken, intelligent and liberal.  People hate that for some reason.  

Josh was well liked and respected, he spoke up for his teammates and pointed out how too many of them did not have the advantages he had, including the quality of education in elementary and high school to prepare them to be student/athletes in a major D1 university.  

The narrative comes from the media that doesn’t like him. 

I don't think that's accurate at all. The media has no problem with an intelligent, outspoken liberal. They love guys like that.

The people who don't love intelligent, outspoken liberals are conservative football coaches threatened that he's smarter than they are who want guys to fall in and tow the company line. 

The media would LOVE a guy like Rosen who creates narratives and writes stories for them.

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22 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I don't think that's accurate at all. The media has no problem with an intelligent, outspoken liberal. They love guys like that.

The people who don't love intelligent, outspoken liberals are conservative football coaches threatened that he's smarter than they are who want guys to fall in and tow the company line. 

The media would LOVE a guy like Rosen who creates narratives and writes stories for them.

The media out here did not like it.  Trouble with Josh is, you can’t always act like you’re the smartest guy in the room, all the time.  The media will look for something to nail you on.  The NY media is louder, brasher, but L.A. loves to find sound bites they can turn negative, then go in for the kill.

UCLA did him no favors, blocking him from PAC-12 Media Days and limiting interviews, opposite of what USC does, that invests a lot of time and resources to teach the kids to be themselves while not giving the media anything to spin as a negative.  It’s difficult enough to be a student/athlete.

all that counts is Josh was well liked by his teammates, they were vocal on social media defending his character.  Just as Sam was when the critics were questioning Sam’s play in 2017, his teammates, both offense and defense, came out strong defending him.

different styles, same support from their respective teammates.

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On 6/10/2018 at 1:53 AM, A.J. said:

Rosen has the best arm coming out imo. Dude is silky smooth but everything I’ve heard is that he’s a locker room cancer. If the Cards can get him to mature then he’s a steal where they got him.

Between Mayfield and Donald though, NYJ got the better player. Baker might be more ready to play now but Sam’s ceiling is way higher. Having a solid vet to learn under in McCown is perfect too. Darnold was always the better prospect for the Jets’ QB situation.

Best arm?  Maybe motion. I read plenty of stuff claiming that his arm was on the weak side. 

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On 4/20/2018 at 8:48 AM, kthisguy said:

 


His TD/INTs are 173/220 even in that era was not great. Compared to Dawson,Starr, Jurgensen, Tarkington, or even Gabriel.

I say this as a HUGE Namath fan. I literally stare at this in my office all day!

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Starr and Dawson?  Ew. 

Is that a Leroy Nieman?  We used to have a bunch of his water colors in the hallway at the Garden.  I think this was one of them. 

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31 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

The media out here did not like it.  Trouble with Josh is, you can’t always act like you’re the smartest guy in the room, all the time.  The media will look for something to nail you on.  The NY media is louder, brasher, but L.A. loves to find sound bites they can turn negative, then go in for the kill.

 UCLA did him no favors, blocking him from PAC-12 Media Days and limiting interviews, opposite of what USC does, that invests a lot of time and resources to teach the kids to be themselves while not giving the media anything to spin as a negative.  It’s difficult enough to be a student/athlete.

all that counts is Josh was well liked by his teammates, they were vocal on social media defending his character.  Just as Sam was when the critics were questioning Sam’s play in 2017, his teammates, both offense and defense, came out strong defending him.

different styles, same support from their respective teammates.

Fair -- and I agree on the underlying sentiment that their teammates seemed to love them which is ultimately far more important than any media narrative.

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3 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Best arm?  Maybe motion. I read plenty of stuff claiming that his arm was on the weak side. 

He throws a really nice ball. I’m not talking about chucking it down the field 60 yards. Jamarcus Russell could do that and you see how he panned out.

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17 hours ago, A.J. said:

He throws a really nice ball. I’m not talking about chucking it down the field 60 yards. Jamarcus Russell could do that and you see how he panned out.

Fair enough explanation.  I can buy the throws a really nice ball, but there is much more to having a plus arm than being able to chuck it 60 yards. 

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