Did Joe Douglas Know Something That Jets Fans Didn’t?

[JetNation]

Jets GM Joe Douglas has taken his fair share of heat for some of his missteps as General Manager, but (very) early signs indicate some of that heat may not have been warranted.  This is of course in the case of departed edge rusher Bryce Huff.

Having played three games for the Eagles, Huff is having a hard time even getting on the field.  His snap counts are down from what they were with the Jets last season and the production has been downright shocking.  In three games, Huff has one tackle, and that’s it.  No other stat on the stat sheet to speak of.  Not a forced fumble.  Not a sack.  Not a QB hit.  Huff has been the invisible man in Philly.

Is it possible that once the Eagles got to the point of offering Huff $17 million cash this year, that the Jets didn’t believe he was worth it?

Despite Huff having ten sacks last season, might the Jets have viewed it as an aberration?  After all, he totaled just 7.5 sacks through his first three seasons.  In fairness to Huff, he showed enough flashes with his quickness off the edge to lead one to expect a breakout year at some point.  That point was 2023.

However, even though it’s no fault of Huff’s, did his lack of production against top-tier, or even starting talent, work against him?

We found this tweet from Philly Nation that went back and took a look at all of Huff’s 2023 sacks.  It turns out that of the 10, only 2.5 came against starting tackles, one came completely unblocked and another as a result of Tua Tagoviaola falling over.

To be very clear, this isn’t something Huff had any control over.  All he can do is go out and line up against the guy across from him.  But when the GM sees that the guy across from him, time and again, isn’t a starting caliber player, might that give him pause?

Is it possible that Huff can be a disruptive player who impacts plays but who may come back down to earth and be a two or three sack per year guy?

It’ll be a while before we know, but if Douglas passed on paying big money for small production then it was a good call by the GM.

Now whether or not it was a good idea to hang on to Huff rather than move him for something at the deadline?  That’s a different story.

 

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[CanadaSteve]

Bryce Huff:

Will McDonald:

 

Wouldn't it be weird if our GM actually knew something about this?  Like, he realized Huff wasn't that good to pay that kind of money?

[Beerfish]

The good news is our brilliant GM replaced him with air.

[bicketybam]

1 minute ago, CanadaSteve said:

Bryce Huff:

Will McDonald:

 

Wouldn't it be weird if our GM actually knew something about this?  Like, he realized Huff wasn't that good to pay that kind of money?

He knew he wasn't a 3 down player and wasn't going to pay him like one. 

[bicketybam]

Just now, Beerfish said:

The good news is our brilliant GM replaced him with air.

McDonald. He replaced him with McDonald.

[Jet_Engine1]

Just now, Beerfish said:

The good news is our brilliant GM replaced him with air.

Will Mac is made of AIR??

 

I knew he was skinny, but.....

[Nixhead]

Obviously the Jets knees something. Whether it was Saleh or some of the other coaches or Douglas - they either knew that he wasn't that good or he was another Muhammad Wilkerson - take the money and run kind of guy. They knew.

[BreeceHallofFame]

Then why didn’t we trade him last year?

[GKnight83]

Then why didn’t we trade him last year?

How do you know they did not try to trade him?

Not every trade discussion is disclosed.


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[JetsRay]

23 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The good news is our brilliant GM replaced him with air.

Actually he replaced him with Will McDonald, how does that crow taste?

[JKlecko]

6 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

Then why didn’t we trade him last year?

Why would they have traded him last year?  That would have said that the Jets were giving up on the season after Rodgers got hurt.  That wouldn't have been a good optic.  As it is, the Jets could get a 4th or maybe a 3rd round comp draft pick.

[Jetsplayer21]

13 minutes ago, JKlecko said:

Why would they have traded him last year?  That would have said that the Jets were giving up on the season after Rodgers got hurt.  That wouldn't have been a good optic.  As it is, the Jets could get a 4th or maybe a 3rd round comp draft pick.

The Jets did give up on the season when they elected not to trade for a decent qb , who could have possibly bridge the gap to Rodgers coming back end of yr if jets were still in the hunt. Going with 1 of the worst qbs in  the NFL instead , was definitely a white flag decision.

[bicketybam]

47 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said:

Then why didn’t we trade him last year?

I believe he had 3 sacks at the trade deadline. What do you think we were getting for him?

[JKlecko]

21 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

The Jets did give up on the season when they elected not to trade for a decent qb , who could have possibly bridge the gap to Rodgers coming back end of yr if jets were still in the hunt. Going with 1 of the worst qbs in  the NFL instead , was definitely a white flag decision.

That's one way to look at it.  Another way is that they weren't going to get a good enough QB in a trade to get to the playoffs, so it would have been a waste of draft resources and cap space.

[BornJetsFan1983]

2 hours ago, JetNation said:

Jets GM Joe Douglas has taken his fair share of heat for some of his missteps as General Manager, but (very) early signs indicate some of that heat may not have been warranted.  This is of course in the case of departed edge rusher Bryce Huff.

Having played three games for the Eagles, Huff is having a hard time even getting on the field.  His snap counts are down from what they were with the Jets last season and the production has been downright shocking.  In three games, Huff has one tackle, and that’s it.  No other stat on the stat sheet to speak of.  Not a forced fumble.  Not a sack.  Not a QB hit.  Huff has been the invisible man in Philly.

Is it possible that once the Eagles got to the point of offering Huff $17 million cash this year, that the Jets didn’t believe he was worth it?

Despite Huff having ten sacks last season, might the Jets have viewed it as an aberration?  After all, he totaled just 7.5 sacks through his first three seasons.  In fairness to Huff, he showed enough flashes with his quickness off the edge to lead one to expect a breakout year at some point.  That point was 2023.

However, even though it’s no fault of Huff’s, did his lack of production against top-tier, or even starting talent, work against him?

We found this tweet from Philly Nation that went back and took a look at all of Huff’s 2023 sacks.  It turns out that of the 10, only 2.5 came against starting tackles, one came completely unblocked and another as a result of Tua Tagoviaola falling over.

To be very clear, this isn’t something Huff had any control over.  All he can do is go out and line up against the guy across from him.  But when the GM sees that the guy across from him, time and again, isn’t a starting caliber player, might that give him pause?

Is it possible that Huff can be a disruptive player who impacts plays but who may come back down to earth and be a two or three sack per year guy?

It’ll be a while before we know, but if Douglas passed on paying big money for small production then it was a good call by the GM.

Now whether or not it was a good idea to hang on to Huff rather than move him for something at the deadline?  That’s a different story.

 

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Is this article for the jet nation? Yeah guys Joe and everyone else with eyes knew he was a beneficiary of the system and luck to get those numbers. That he is. It in fact a legit 10 sack guy.

Well almost everyone there are sole posters here that didn't. But rationally minded folks did

[LIJetsFan]

27 minutes ago, JKlecko said:

That's one way to look at it.  Another way is that they weren't going to get a good enough QB in a trade to get to the playoffs, so it would have been a waste of draft resources and cap space.

I'd like to think that that was the case but I just don't think so.  Wasn't Zack supposedly looking good preseason under AR8's wing/tutelage.  I think it was a case of hope springing eternal.  It's just remarkable how many starts a QB as bad as that got.  All in all I think Zack's entire Jets tenure is on JD (and I like JD).  Major fking missteps at every turn.     

[FootballLove]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The good news is our brilliant GM replaced him with air.

You spelled Will McDonald wrong!