kelly Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Peter King's Top 15 QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Tom Brady 3. Drew Brees 4. Carson Palmer 5. Marc Bulger 6. Matt Hasselbeck 7. Philip Rivers 8. Donovan McNabb 9. Tony Romo 10. Brett Favre 11. Ben Roethlisberger 12. Matt Leinart 13. Vince Young 14. Chad Pennington 15. Jay Cutler. ~ ~ ~ michael vick ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 hey Kelly did you see that cool pic of Amy in the last issue of Rolling Stone-the one with Panic At The Disco on the cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Oh wow, Chad made the Top 15 just ahead of a guy who has what? 6 career starts under his belt? Awesome. Start Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Oh wow, Chad made the Top 15 just ahead of a guy who has what? 6 career starts under his belt? Awesome. Start Clemens. If I've said it once I'll say a hundred and fifty times-in fact every week that someone posts one of his articles- WHO CARES WHAT PETER KINGS HAS TO SAY ABOUT ANYTHING JETS RELATED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 If I've said it once I'll say a hundred and fifty times-in fact every week that someone posts one of his articles- WHO CARES WHAT PETER KINGS HAS TO SAY ABOUT ANYTHING JETS RELATED The fact that Matt Leinart is on this list just shows how much of a moron Peter King really is. David Carr made substantial improvements this season and if he had a running game / a little more help from the line, he would be producing like a 1st round QB. Too many knock on Carr but he's still a Top 15 QB in this league, skill wise. Productivity? Do not blame it on Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Peter King's Top 15 QB's 9. Tony Romo 10. Brett Favre 11. Ben Roethlisberger 12. Matt Leinart 13. Vince Young 14. Chad Pennington 15. Jay Cutler. vick ? ? hmm...Romo huh? Tony Romo? From Wisconsin, with Glenn, and Owens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 hmm...Romo huh? Tony Romo? From Wisconsin, with Glenn, and Owens I know MD-consider the source and ignore it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Jet Fan Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Peter King's Top 15 QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Tom Brady 3. Drew Brees 4. Carson Palmer 5. Marc Bulger 6. Matt Hasselbeck 7. Philip Rivers 8. Donovan McNabb 9. Tony Romo 10. Brett Favre 11. Ben Roethlisberger 12. Matt Leinart 13. Vince Young 14. Chad Pennington 15. Jay Cutler. ~ ~ ~ michael vick ? ? 1. Peyton Manning 2. Tom Brady 3. Drew Brees 4. Carson Palmer 5. Marc Bulger 6. Matt Hasselbeck 7. Philip Rivers 8. Donovan McNabb 9. Tony Romo 10. Brett Favre 11. Ben Roethlisberger 12. Matt Leinart 13. Vince Young 14. Chad Pennington 15. Jay Cutler. Wow...bulger ahead of Hassleback?? All those guys ahead of McNabb?? Why would he put Leinart ahead of VY and Cutler? Anyone here taking Rivers over McNabb right now b/c I sure as hell am not. Anyone taking Big Ben over Vince Young.... This list is horrible, Peter King is a freakin moron, how are you going to have 3 rookies (basically 4 w/ Rivers) in the top 15?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 The fact that Matt Leinart is on this list just shows how much of a moron Peter King really is. David Carr made substantial improvements this season and if he had a running game / a little more help from the line, he would be producing like a 1st round QB. Too many knock on Carr but he's still a Top 15 QB in this league, skill wise. Productivity? Do not blame it on Carr. People will pass blame on that line of his till he retires. I should know, i backed the guy too. Until his back up went in and dominated for a game against a good team. Then Carr goes out sets the record for completions in a row, then he sucks again. If you want a QB who is good, then terrible, good then terrible, where the Chicago C. Carr is about 12 months from being labled a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Well these are all starters... and as much as I like seeing Chad in there I really dont care what King says... But for all of the people FLIPPING out about it... Why dont you take 5 min and post who you think are the Top 15 Starting QB's in the NFL after this season.... Brady, Tom QB, New England Patriots Brees, Drew QB, New Orleans Saints Brooks, Aaron QB, Oakland Raiders Brunell, Mark QB, Washington Redskins Bulger, Marc QB, St. Louis Rams Campbell, Jason QB, Washington Redskins Carr, David QB, Houston Texans Culpepper, Daunte QB, Miami Dolphins Cutler, Jay QB, Denver Broncos Delhomme, Jake QB, Carolina Panthers Favre, Brett QB, Green Bay Packers Garrard, David QB, Jacksonville Jaguars Gradkowski, Bruce QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Green, Trent QB, Kansas City Chiefs Grossman, Rex QB, Chicago Bears Harrington, Joey QB, Miami Dolphins Hasselbeck, Matt QB, Seattle Seahawks Jackson, Tarvaris QB, Minnesota Vikings Kitna, Jon QB, Detroit Lions Leftwich, Byron QB, Jacksonville Jaguars Leinart, Matt QB, Arizona Cardinals Losman, J.P. QB, Buffalo Bills Manning, Eli QB, New York Giants Manning, Peyton QB, Indianapolis Colts McNabb, Donovan QB, Philadelphia Eagles McNair, Steve QB, Baltimore Ravens Palmer, Carson QB, Cincinnati Bengals Pennington, Chad QB, New York Jets Rivers, Philip QB, San Diego Chargers Roethlisberger, Ben QB, Pittsburgh Steelers Romo, Tony QB, Dallas Cowboys Simms, Chris QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Smith, Alex QB, San Francisco 49ers Vick, Michael QB, Atlanta Falcons Young, Vince QB, Tennessee Titans There is a list to use.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 The fact that Matt Leinart is on this list just shows how much of a moron Peter King really is. David Carr made substantial improvements this season and if he had a running game / a little more help from the line, he would be producing like a 1st round QB. Too many knock on Carr but he's still a Top 15 QB in this league, skill wise. Productivity? Do not blame it on Carr. You know I agree with you on this topic, but David Carr REGRESSED this season, not improved. He showed that he has the same "checkdown way too early because I know I'm gonna get clobbered" disease that Patrick Ramsey has. I think he may be done for mentally. Shame too, because he is one of the most talented young QBs to come into the league in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 1.) Grossman Manning Brady Palmer Brees McNabb Hasselback Bulger Favre A. Smith T. Green (minus the spermer, was good, could still be good) Lousman Its all a cluster past that...But going into next year, i think this is the order i'd choose. ps- the grossman pick...that's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 1.) Grossman Manning Brady Palmer Brees McNabb Hasselback Bulger Favre A. Smith T. Green (minus the spermer, was good, could still be good) Lousman Its all a cluster past that...But going into next year, i think this is the order i'd choose. ps- the grossman pick...that's a joke. Thats only 11 ..... see its harder to pick 15 than you thought... and you know Chad is in the top 15... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Here's a rough draft of what mine might look like going into next season. 1. Manning 2. Brady 3. Palmer 4. Brees 5. McNabb 6. Bulger 7. Hasselbeck 8. Rivers 9. Roethlisberger 10. Favre 11. Pennington 12. Delhomme 13. Romo 14. McNair 15. Losman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Thats only 11 ..... see its harder to pick 15 than you thought... and you know Chad is in the top 15... Not gonna lie, the middle 10 to 14 are really hard to rate. The bottom and the top are rather easy. I mean Aaron Brooks...payton manning...not real tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangenious420 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well these are all starters... and as much as I like seeing Chad in there I really dont care what King says... But for all of the people FLIPPING out about it... Why dont you take 5 min and post who you think are the Top 15 Starting QB's in the NFL after this season.... Brooks, Aaron QB, Oakland Raiders Bulger, Marc QB, St. Louis Rams Cutler, Jay QB, Denver Broncos Delhomme, Jake QB, Carolina Panthers Grossman, Rex QB, Chicago Bears Harrington, Joey QB, Miami Dolphins Jackson, Tarvaris QB, Minnesota Vikings Kitna, Jon QB, Detroit Lions Leftwich, Byron QB, Jacksonville Jaguars Leinart, Matt QB, Arizona Cardinals Losman, J.P. QB, Buffalo Bills Manning, Eli QB, New York Giants Romo, Tony QB, Dallas Cowboys Simms, Chris QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Vick, Michael QB, Atlanta Falcons Young, Vince QB, Tennessee Titans There is a list to use.... 1. Brady 2. Manning 3.Breese 4. Palmer 5. Hassleback 6. McNabb 7. Roethlisberger 8.Rivers 9. Green 10. Farve 11. Mcnair 12. Cutler 13. Pennington 14. Delhomme 15. ECURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 1. Brady 2. Manning 3.Breese 4. Palmer 5. Hassleback 6. McNabb 7. Roethlisberger 8.Rivers 9. Green 10. Farve 11. Mcnair 12. Cutler 13. Pennington 14. Delhomme 15. ECURB how do you have Roethlisberger that high? fine he has a SB...oh wait no...that's his defense and O-line tha thave a SB. I would take leinhart, young, smith, or cutler over him from here out. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 If Chad Pennington is on your Top 15, please check in to the physc. clinic. Thank you. Signed, JetNation.com Members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well these are all starters... and as much as I like seeing Chad in there I really dont care what King says... But for all of the people FLIPPING out about it... Why dont you take 5 min and post who you think are the Top 15 Starting QB's in the NFL after this season.... Brady, Tom QB, New England Patriots-Obviously Brees, Drew QB, New Orleans Saints-Obviously Brooks, Aaron QB, Oakland Raiders-no Brunell, Mark QB, Washington Redskins-no Bulger, Marc QB, St. Louis Rams-obviously Campbell, Jason QB, Washington Redskins-too soon to tell Carr, David QB, Houston Texans-not sure. Might be shellshocked at this point. Culpepper, Daunte QB, Miami Dolphins-when healthy, yes. Cutler, Jay QB, Denver Broncos-definately Delhomme, Jake QB, Carolina Panthers-definately Favre, Brett QB, Green Bay Packers-yes, although this is a year by year thing. Garrard, David QB, Jacksonville Jaguars-no Gradkowski, Bruce QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers-too soon to tell Green, Trent QB, Kansas City Chiefs-yes. Grossman, Rex QB, Chicago Bears-yes, he is young, has shown flashes of brilliance as well as been aweful. But in his first season he took his team to the SB. His D was not all that great without Brown and Harris. He stunk at times, but he will get better. Harrington, Joey QB, Miami Dolphins-no Hasselbeck, Matt QB, Seattle Seahawks-definately Jackson, Tarvaris QB, Minnesota Vikings-too soon to tell Kitna, Jon QB, Detroit Lions-flip a coin, this is a guy I think is most like Pennington. Leftwich, Byron QB, Jacksonville Jaguars-not sure. Leinart, Matt QB, Arizona Cardinals-yes Losman, J.P. QB, Buffalo Bills-yes, showing improvement and will get better. Will never be elite but his best will be better than Penne's IMO. Manning, Eli QB, New York Giants-yes. Manning, Peyton QB, Indianapolis Colts-obviously McNabb, Donovan QB, Philadelphia Eagles-obviously McNair, Steve QB, Baltimore Ravens-for one season, yes. Palmer, Carson QB, Cincinnati Bengals-obviously Rivers, Philip QB, San Diego Chargers-definately. Roethlisberger, Ben QB, Pittsburgh Steelers-No. I'm just not sold on him. Romo, Tony QB, Dallas Cowboys-yes, he'll improve over time. Simms, Chris QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers-no. Smith, Alex QB, San Francisco 49ers-without a doubt. Vick, Michael QB, Atlanta Falcons-Same production as Penne, just a different way of getting there. Young, Vince QB, Tennessee Titans-Yes There is a list to use.... See bold. 19 QB's I would take without question. 7 that are either too soon to tell or I feel that there isn't a dramatic benefit or disadvantage (8if your list included Plummer). 6 that are a resounding no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I tend to rank QB's in groups. As in I think the guys within a group give you similar upside/downside with their overall game. But within the group, I don't think one is a shoe-in as absolutely better than the rest (and they're listed in no particular order within that group). If I was a GM with the chance to hand-pick a QB to start for my team next year: Tier 1 (2) - There are these two & then there's everybody else. If I was forced to choose, I'd pick the guy with the most rings. Swap their starting WR's for one season & then tell me Manning is better: Tom Brady Peyton Manning Tier 2 (6) - True Pro-Bowl types. All excellent QB's, just not on the level of the above two (even if they sometimes outperform them for stretches): Drew Brees Carson Palmer Marc Bulger Matt Hasselbeck Donovan McNabb Tier 3 (5) - Very good (or will be if healthy next year). A few who were rookies (or first-year starters) this year who should make a huge jump over their '06 season. Their upside puts them in here above the next tier: Philip Rivers Vince Young Jay Cutler Matt Leinart Tony Romo Ben Roethlisberger Tier 4 (7) - Sometimes average, sometimes above-average, and sometimes below-average. They frustrate you with phenomenal play sometimes & at other times you wonder if they'd be good enough to start for Rutgers: Brett Favre Chad Pennington Alex Smith J.P. Losman Steve McNair Michael Vick Jake Delhomme Tier 5 (9) - Each has upside to win some for you because of their own talent, or can at least "not lose" games for stretches. But if your team is a consistent winner it won't be because of them; you'll need a top running-game &/or defense. If the stars align correctly & absolutely everything else on your team is in place, you could be a winner with one them: Jeff Garcia Rex Grossman Eli Manning Trent Green Daunte Culpepper David Carr Jason Campbell Byron Leftwich Damon Huard Tier 6 (5) - Very good backup/#2 QB's. If they're penciled in as the starter for week 1, the pre-season over/under is optimistically set at 4.5 games unless you have a top defense, RB, and play in a lousy division/conference (which would still only raise it to 6.5): Drew Bledsoe Jon Kitna Bruce Gradkowski Joey Harrington Mark Brunell Tier 7 (5) - Useless. A team would be better off starting a late-round rookie who might at least have some upside, since these guys have none (or no longer do): Chris Simms Brad Johnson Aaron Brooks David Garrard Tarvaris Jackson Charlie Frye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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