Steveg Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 If it's inside the opponents 50, can we go for it? PLEASE...maybe a play action pass...PLEASE. That's what I liked about Parcells - he would go for those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 If it's inside the opponents 50, can we go for it? PLEASE...maybe a play action pass...PLEASE. That's what I liked about Parcells - he would go for those... not with chad. 4th and 1 for chad is like 4th and goal on 1 for any other QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 in chads defense im sure he can manage to throw a 1 yard floater to someone and get them killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 in chads defense im sure he can manage to throw a 1 yard floater to someone and get them killed. sadly i dont see the silver lining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY JETS 29 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 yeah there really wasnt meant to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 in chads defense im sure he can manage to throw a 1 yard floater to someone and get them killed. Or how about handing it off to a RB or FB considering thats why we picked them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Mangini went for 4th and short ALOT last year - it's the same coach, let's not forget he knows how to make that call. i truly believe with the field position, being on the road, the score (tied) the progress in the game (1st q) it was the correct call remember the field position that punt afforded lasted throughout the half and if Nugent makes that 37 yard kick, maybe it's a different outcome. i think if it was 3rd or 4th quarter you have to go for it. ps- Barnes was a gameday inactive, that hurts short yardage. Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Probably right on the "wrong situation" to go for it point Bitonti, and yes the deactivating of Barnes hurt the offensive gameplan. Barnes is a proven blocker with experience and should be on the field (active) in every game. So what are you trying to say here exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 If it's inside the opponents 50, can we go for it? PLEASE...maybe a play action pass...PLEASE. That's what I liked about Parcells - he would go for those... I completely disagree and here's why: The Bills had been unable to muster ANY offense in the previous three games. The Bills were starting a rookie QB making his first NFL start. The logic behind the punt was simple. The Jets have a punter that is excellent at dropping balls inside the 10 yard line. The coaches were confident that the Bills would be unable to march 90+ yards given the situation. If you don't get the first down the following bad things happen; you provide a short field to a "supposedly" bad offense and a big momentum swing to the home team early in the game. Even if they pickup the first down there is no guarantee for points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 So what are you trying to say here exactly? The site was spazzing out for me too during the time he posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 The site was spazzing out for me too during the time he posted. Ah, so I'm not the only one. I thought it was the office, so I managed three. Tried to make it up to you guys with my edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveg Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I completely disagree and here's why: The Bills had been unable to muster ANY offense in the previous three games. The Bills were starting a rookie QB making his first NFL start. The logic behind the punt was simple. The Jets have a punter that is excellent at dropping balls inside the 10 yard line. The coaches were confident that the Bills would be unable to march 90+ yards given the situation. If you don't get the first down the following bad things happen; you provide a short field to a "supposedly" bad offense and a big momentum swing to the home team early in the game. Even if they pickup the first down there is no guarantee for points. You've got to be aggressive and set a tempo, ESPECIALLY on the road. Also, the Jets defense is so bad, they have to keep them off the field.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Also, the Jets defense is so bad, they have to keep them off the field.. While I agree that the Jets defense is lousy, the Jets coaches justifiably assumed that the Bills offense with a rookie QB would probably be significantly worse than the Jets defense. Turns out they were wrong but I don't blame the coaches for thinking that way. Plus, it was 4th and a long 1...not inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 The site was spazzing out for me too during the time he posted. Yeah it froze up and I couldnt get out of the "submit reply" screen and had to shut it down, sorry for the multi-posts there guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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