SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 on the boards-here we are, 2 friggin games left to this horrible excuse of a Jets season-one of our history's worst. In two weeks another never ending off-season begins. Another 8 months of "we should draft this guy" threads, predictions, speculation, and threads on why we should sign every single player that gets released between now and next September...see y'all in the Lounge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 on the boards-here we are, 2 friggin games left to this horrible excuse of a Jets season-one of our history's worst. In two weeks another never ending off-season begins. Another 8 months of "we should draft this guy" threads, predictions, speculation, and threads on why we should sign every single player that gets released between now and next September...see y'all in the Lounge i prefer to look at it a different way the bigger picture..we need talent... lots of it and the earlier the picks are the better...a 5-11 season puts the draft in no mans land to each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I'm hoping for two straight wins to finish off the season because I cannot take any more f'ing losses and I want this whole Darren McFadden crap to go far, far away. I'd much rather pick around 10 then in the Top 5, especially this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 i prefer to look at it a different way the bigger picture..we need talent... lots of it and the earlier the picks are the better...a 5-11 season puts the draft in no mans land to each his own if we can get 3 starters out of this draft we have had a good draft afos...it's gonna take bold moves this off season-which means we will have to bring in FA's and actually SIGN THEM-you know unlike what we always do. We always read about this guy or that "visiting" the Jets at Hofstra and then 2 days later we read how somebody else signed the guy...that sh!t ain't gonna cut the mustard next year....we have a big difference to make up between us and now the whole rest of the division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 i prefer to look at it a different way the bigger picture..we need talent... lots of it and the earlier the picks are the better...a 5-11 season puts the draft in no mans land to each his own agree, at this point i want a better draft position,,having saod that as a fan i wiull smile if we win,,but could care less if we lose at this point due to better draft position,,if we lose, hopefully kellen looks good and we suffer no injuries,,but IMHO 2007 ship sailed and we need to get our ship in port for 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Geeks root for draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 agree, at this point i want a better draft position,,having saod that as a fan i wiull smile if we win,,but could care less if we lose at this point due to better draft position,,if we lose, hopefully kellen looks good and we suffer no injuries,,but IMHO 2007 ship sailed and we need to get our ship in port for 2008 just for the record I don't think we'll actually win SJ and I haven't yelled at the TV too often this season anyway. I haven't had much hope at all since around the end of September...this has been B-A-D...really bad with not too many bright spots to point to. I think we beat KC next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 just for the record I don't think we'll actually win SJ and I haven't yelled at the TV too often this season anyway. I haven't had much hope at all since around the end of September...this has been B-A-D...really bad with not too many bright spots to point to. I think we beat KC next week agree,,,we beat kc imho,,again letting that herm ruin our mcfadden sweepstakes position.. i havent bben pissed much this year,,backed off oct also,,EXCEPT beans and i went ballistic at manginis FG/Onsides kick fiasco vs Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 agree,,,we beat kc imho,,again letting that herm ruin our mcfadden sweepstakes position.. i havent bben pissed much this year,,backed off oct also,,EXCEPT beans and i went ballistic at manginis FG/Onsides kick fiasco vs Browns I've just watched this year like a friggin zombie most of the time-no feeling, no emotion, no hope, almost like being in shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 agree,,,we beat kc imho,,again letting that herm ruin our mcfadden sweepstakes position.. i havent bben pissed much this year,,backed off oct also,,EXCEPT beans and i went ballistic at manginis FG/Onsides kick fiasco vs Browns most of us are like cattle b4 the bullet comes have been unfazed by this team since wk4, i have hardly yelled at the TV all year... accept our fate and move on we do need talent and being at 12th draft slot is the kiss of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I've just watched this year like a friggin zombie most of the time-no feeling, no emotion, no hope, almost like being in shock POTW thats EXACTLY the psycho/physical modis operandi I have been in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 agree,,,we beat kc imho,,again letting that herm ruin our mcfadden sweepstakes position.. i havent bben pissed much this year,,backed off oct also,,EXCEPT beans and i went ballistic at manginis FG/Onsides kick fiasco vs Browns Remember when Herm lost the Reggie Bush sweepstakes? OH yeah that sucked. He totally screwed up the 1st pick. Except Reggie Bush sucks himself so picking him 1st would have been terrible. But the draft guys need something to talk about I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Remember when Herm lost the Reggie Bush sweepstakes? OH yeah that sucked. He totally screwed up the 1st pick. Except Reggie Bush sucks himself so picking him 1st would have been terrible. But the draft guys need something to talk about I guess. i am not concerned with a player,,i personally want the 3rd pick to trade down for a boatload of picks to replenish our beloved jets,,i am thinking future , not a lost season,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Remember when Herm lost the Reggie Bush sweepstakes? OH yeah that sucked. He totally screwed up the 1st pick. Except Reggie Bush sucks himself so picking him 1st would have been terrible. But the draft guys need something to talk about I guess. whether it is DMC or Dorsey or Howie's kid we will lose them at the pats will get one of them.. you make the call ir is not a real strong draft from 10-32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 Remember when Herm lost the Reggie Bush sweepstakes? OH yeah that sucked. He totally screwed up the 1st pick. Except Reggie Bush sucks himself so picking him 1st would have been terrible. But the draft guys need something to talk about I guess. On every Jets board people were talking Reggie Bush up like he was the 2nd coming of The Messiah Himself-I actually spent two of the most miserable weeks of my football life HOPING we'd lose so we could draft him. I cursed Al Davis for throwing the Oakland game and saw a lot of people in "Thanks Justin Miller You A-hole" threads doing the same thing when he ran back that KO to beat Buffalo the last game of the season...never again will I EVER wish my team loses so we could get a better draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 whether it is DMC or Dorsey or Howie's kid we will lose them at the pats will get one of them.. you make the call ir is not a real strong draft from 10-32 but you know what afos? Last April during the draft day threads every single player New England picked was met with dread and "Oh no-they got THAT guy-we should have picked him instead" and guess how many of those guys are on that roster now? ONE-Brandon Merriweather from Miami U-their #1 pick-every other guy has been cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 i am not concerned with a player,,i personally want the 3rd pick to trade down for a boatload of picks to replenish our beloved jets,,i am thinking future , not a lost season,, I understand. But I am a competitive person. I NEVER want my team to lose. EVER. Not saying everyone does it. But some people root for their team to lose for a better draft pick. But here is the thing -- Your "team" just went 3 and 13. What makes you think they won't screw up the pick after a year of screwing everything up? I root for the Jets to win every game. Regardless of the theoretical implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 On every Jets board people were talking Reggie Bush up like he was the 2nd coming of The Messiah Himself-I actually spent two of the most miserable weeks of my football life HOPING we'd lose so we could draft him. I cursed Al Davis for throwing the Oakland game and saw a lot of people in "Thanks Justin Miller You A-hole" threads doing the same thing when he ran back that KO to beat Buffalo the last game of the season...never again will I EVER wish my team loses so we could get a better draft pick i hear ya,,but if trading down for multiple picks is the strategy than that changes the mindset a bit,,its not a roll your dice and bank on 1 top5 pick,, but several highly rated players that can help in several areas,, we nee dlots of help and this may be our best chance to restock the team,,some team will want long or mcfadden and will pay for the pick,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I understand. But I am a competitive person. I NEVER want my team to lose. EVER. Not saying everyone does it. But some people root for their team to lose for a better draft pick. But here is the thing -- Your "team" just went 3 and 13. What makes you think they won't screw up the pick after a year of screwing everything up? I root for the Jets to win every game. Regardless of the theoretical implications. again,,i said as a fan i will smile if we win,,it wont bug me a bit,,i am just saying at this point in season a loss wont piss me off like a loss in a playoff drive season,,and i will see rose colored benefit to a loss,,,and multiple picks offsets gambling blowing pick,,1 in 3 might make it but again , i always want to win,,its just degrees of pisse doff we lose at this point,, ask beans and heelz how competitive I am? haha,, u would be surrpised to hear my demeanor at games,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJETS3233 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 or lets not win and just play hard while losing the last two games. i think its usually better to have a 2,3,4 pick rather than 8,9,10. common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted December 23, 2007 Author Share Posted December 23, 2007 i hear ya,,but if trading down for multiple picks is the strategy than that changes the mindset a bit,,its not a roll your dice and bank on 1 top5 pick,, but several highly rated players that can help in several areas,, we nee dlots of help and this may be our best chance to restock the team,,some team will want long or mcfadden and will pay for the pick,, that would be the ideal scenario SJ-get a top 3 pick trade down to say a Dallas get their 2 #1's for it and also get the #1 from KC like Max suggested-I loved having multiple 1st round picks-it makes watching the draft bearable-I mean what was it like a 6 hour 1st round last April? arrghhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I understand. But I am a competitive person. I NEVER want my team to lose. EVER. Not saying everyone does it. But some people root for their team to lose for a better draft pick. But here is the thing -- Your "team" just went 3 and 13. What makes you think they won't screw up the pick after a year of screwing everything up? I root for the Jets to win every game. Regardless of the theoretical implications. if we get the 3rd pick and tangini F's it up you have your answer regarding these 2 enuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodan9999 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I'm hoping for two straight wins to finish off the season because I cannot take any more f'ing losses and I want this whole Darren McFadden crap to go far, far away. I'd much rather pick around 10 then in the Top 5, especially this year. I for one understand where you are coming from with this...I also could not care less about McFadden, unless we could pick up more picks for him....we do not need him...we need OL and DL.....Leon Washington and Thomas Jones can be a great run attack...they have both been productive in the Pro game....McFadden has not played his first down in the NFL...he might be great....but I also remember a great college back we took in the draft and everyone thought he was going to be great...he was named Blair Thomas...we need to build on what we have...we need the guys up front..without them it does not matter who gets the ball...he goes no place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I for one understand where you are coming from with this...I also could not care less about McFadden, unless we could pick up more picks for him....we do not need him...we need OL and DL.....Leon Washington and Thomas Jones can be a great run attack...they have both been productive in the Pro game....McFadden has not played his first down in the NFL...he might be great....but I also remember a great college back we took in the draft and everyone thought he was going to be great...he was named Blair Thomas...we need to build on what we have...we need the guys up front..without them it does not matter who gets the ball...he goes no place... BT never ran a 4.3 this kid is a AP clone and a home run hitta!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I for one understand where you are coming from with this...I also could not care less about McFadden, unless we could pick up more picks for him....we do not need him...we need OL and DL.....Leon Washington and Thomas Jones can be a great run attack...they have both been productive in the Pro game....McFadden has not played his first down in the NFL...he might be great....but I also remember a great college back we took in the draft and everyone thought he was going to be great...he was named Blair Thomas...we need to build on what we have...we need the guys up front..without them it does not matter who gets the ball...he goes no place... most of us want to parlay into several picks,,not many want to roll dice with a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodan9999 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 BT never ran a 4.3 this kid is a AP clone and a home run hitta!!!!!! Well I do not remember what Thomas' 40 time was...what was it ? But if you do not have people up front it does not matter how fast he runs the 40 ! I would like to see Leon and McFadden one on one in a sprint.....and then watch anyone live on the difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodan9999 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I also checked the 40 time for McFadden..one sorce only has him at 4.45..C. Johnson from E. Car. has a 4.32.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 After reggie bush flopped (thus far), I'm not gonna root for this team to lose anymore. Whatever happens, happens - thats how I look at it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 what most of you fail to see is that getting 6 or 7 draft slots helps every rd not just rd1 Round 2 pick would be 34, as pats lost their pick and add 3 or 4 draft mistakes usually caused by drafting by need and the 2nd rd pick turns into 30th best player If some teams offers a boatload of picks to draft DMC sure i would listen say it is the pokes and they offer 2 #1's and a #1 next year both of this year's picks are low picks browns in Mid twenties and pokes prob 30.. a very good chance 1 of these picks busts then you gave up DMC for essentially squat IF pokes offer MB3 and the draft picks i am all for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 but you know what afos? Last April during the draft day threads every single player New England picked was met with dread and "Oh no-they got THAT guy-we should have picked him instead" and guess how many of those guys are on that roster now? ONE-Brandon Merriweather from Miami U-their #1 pick-every other guy has been cut The rest ended up on the Jets practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 The rest ended up on the Jets practice squad this is why Pioli is very overrated Pats have missed badly after rd 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awats Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 I understand. But I am a competitive person. I NEVER want my team to lose. EVER. Not saying everyone does it. But some people root for their team to lose for a better draft pick. But here is the thing -- Your "team" just went 3 and 13. What makes you think they won't screw up the pick after a year of screwing everything up? I root for the Jets to win every game. Regardless of the theoretical implications. Picks are not screwed up. Sometimes the best in College just don't transfer well to the NFL. Other times the guy you initially want is not there so you pick the best available. Then there is what the Jets used to do all the time, just pick the best available whether you need him or not. This team is not like that even though we still have Bradbury advising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awats Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 i am not concerned with a player,,i personally want the 3rd pick to trade down for a boatload of picks to replenish our beloved jets,,i am thinking future , not a lost season,, I'm with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 this is why Pioli is very overrated Pats have missed badly after rd 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did it ever cross your mind that it might be hard for a rookie to make New Englands roster? That Pats have no problem cutting guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 Did it ever cross your mind that it might be hard for a rookie to make New Englands roster? That Pats have no problem cutting guys. nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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