BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I know there was rumors that the jets are interested in shaun rogers, but it just came out on rotoworld that.... "Coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged at the NFL Combine that the Lions have interest in Jonathan Vilma. The Jets have given Vilma, 25, permission to seek a trade. "He's a heck of a player," Marinelli said. Vilma would likely work well as a middle linebacker in Marinell's Tampa 2 scheme." This could further the rumors that the vilma for rogers swap could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I know there was rumors that the jets are interested in shaun rogers, but it just came out on rotoworld that.... "Coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged at the NFL Combine that the Lions have interest in Jonathan Vilma. The Jets have given Vilma, 25, permission to seek a trade. "He's a heck of a player," Marinelli said. Vilma would likely work well as a middle linebacker in Marinell's Tampa 2 scheme." This could further the rumors that the vilma for rogers swap could happen. I would do it... instead of a second or third round pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Vilma for Rogers. DO IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would do it in a heartbeat. No questions asked. Get that fat bastard on this team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would do it in a heartbeat. No questions asked. Get that fat bastard on this team!!! And I'd still take a NT prospect in the 4th-5th. Still need a backup and Rogers will clearly need breathers. Pouha is a UFA after this year & re-signing him just might not be in our long-term plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 And I'd still take a NT prospect in the 4th-5th. Still need a backup and Rogers will clearly need breathers. Pouha is a UFA after this year & re-signing him just might not be in our long-term plans. Yeah, I agree. I'm far from convinced with Pouha even as a backup. Hopefully if we do get Rogers, he gets in great condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 And I'd still take a NT prospect in the 4th-5th. Still need a backup and Rogers will clearly need breathers. Pouha is a UFA after this year & re-signing him just might not be in our long-term plans. I would love to find a team for Drob and resign pouha to rotate in with rogers, but that's just not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yeah, I agree. I'm far from convinced with Pouha even as a backup. Hopefully if we do get Rogers, he gets in great condition. If he wants another signing bonus (which the Jets might give him & the Lions would not) then he may. What happens after that I don't know. No worries. Tangini will promise it to him, he'll give the team everything he's got, and then we'll re-neg on the offer. I actually KNOW they can get THAT done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Is this a really fair deal ? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 And I'd still take a NT prospect in the 4th-5th. Still need a backup and Rogers will clearly need breathers. Pouha is a UFA after this year & re-signing him just might not be in our long-term plans. if we don't sign a DE/DT to compliment him, the jets FO is as dumb as i thought. Even if we lost every game next year, i'd like to be able to say, 'we had a hell of a defensive line" BTW, the lions would make out like bandits, vilma and simms is a damn good linebacking corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 This makes too much sense to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 if we don't sign a DE/DT to compliment him, the jets FO is as dumb as i thought. Even if we lost every game next year, i'd like to be able to say, 'we had a hell of a defensive line" I can say that now. It isn't true, but I can say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 If he wants another signing bonus (which the Jets might give him & the Lions would not) then he may. What happens after that I don't know. No worries. Tangini will promise it to him, he'll give the team everything he's got, and then we'll re-neg on the offer. I actually KNOW they can get THAT done. POTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 We're going to look back at trading Vilma in the same light as not drafting Marino Another black day as a jets fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 We're going to look back at trading Vilma in the same light as not drafting Marino Another black day as a jets fan NO. WE. WONT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 We're going to look back at trading Vilma in the same light as not drafting Marino Another black day as a jets fan Not if we're gonna be a 34 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Not if we're gonna be a 34 team. Exactly, Some people just need to accept that Vilma can't play in the 3-4 Defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I can't accept trading a player for a coach, which is basically what we are doing with Drob and Vilma Don't get me wrong, I like Mangini...but he should play the defense which best suits his players he doesn't, and we will lose 3 high 1st rounders because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I can't accept trading a player for a coach, which is basically what we are doing with Drob and Vilma Don't get me wrong, I like Mangini...but he should play the defense which best suits his players he doesn't, and we will lose 3 high 1st rounders because of that Well it's too late now. We already have David Harris who IMO is better than Vilma ever was. D-Rob was never ever that good to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Harris would be a fine 4-3 linebacker too I just sucks we'll trade a player that WILL be a pro bowler down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Harris would be a fine 4-3 linebacker too I just sucks we'll trade a player that WILL be a pro bowler down the road Oh, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Lets see Haris lead the league in tackles befor you start crowning the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I can't accept trading a player for a coach, which is basically what we are doing with Drob and Vilma Don't get me wrong, I like Mangini...but he should play the defense which best suits his players he doesn't, and we will lose 3 high 1st rounders because of that It does suck unloading a perfectly good linebacker for the sake of the coach. the only consolation we get is that Harris is a very good linebacker as well, that and we are getting good value for vilma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Lets see Haris lead the league in tackles befor you start crowning the guy I'm pretty sure he had the best average Tackles per start than anyone else this year. Even Patrick Willis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Vilma for Rogers. DO IT. Hell yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 This is completely unfair. Vilma will have a better year in Detroit than Rogers here in NY. I know there playing different positions but still. Vilma is more valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 This is completely unfair. Vilma will have a better year in Detroit than Rogers here in NY. I know there playing different positions but still. Vilma is more valuable. If by having a better year you mean having more tackles than sure he'll probably have a better year. But than your probably ignoring the key cog in the 34 defense, which is a NT. If rogers can play to his potential as our NT than his impact on our defense will double the impact that vilmas 100+ tackles will have on the lions. This of course all speculation, because we don't know if the trade will even happen or if rogers will even be motivated, but if we are going purely on potential, than rogers wins hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetheelz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 So is this going to be a done deal? What's the scoop...some of you are talking like Vilma is already gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 This is completely unfair. Vilma will have a better year in Detroit than Rogers here in NY. I know there playing different positions but still. Vilma is more valuable. You have to be ****ing kidding me. Vilma is dead weight on this defence, Rogers is exactly what this 3-4 D needs, a body in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I can't accept trading a player for a coach, which is basically what we are doing with Drob and Vilma Don't get me wrong, I like Mangini...but he should play the defense which best suits his players he doesn't, and we will lose 3 high 1st rounders because of that I couldn't agree more but look it's been 2 years. Face the facts, HE JUST AIN'T A GONNA DO IT" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I couldn't agree more but look it's been 2 years. Face the facts, HE JUST AIN'T A GONNA DO IT" . Exactly. People just have to accept the truth with Vilma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Exactly. People just have to accept the truth with Vilma. What truth? That in 4 years he's made one probowl appearance (as an alternate) and is a zero-time all-pro? All I see the guy do is make tackles after the damage is done. Total tackles can be impressive but they don't have to be. It also means a team is running right at him. Bye Vilma. Thanks for being decent for 2 years & then sucking for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 What truth? That in 4 years he's made one probowl appearance (as an alternate) and is a zero-time all-pro? All I see the guy do is make tackles after the damage is done. Total tackles can be impressive but they don't have to be. It also means a team is running right at him. Bye Vilma. Thanks for being decent for 2 years & then sucking for 2 years. Yes, that truth. What did you think I meant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpandthefu Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Exactly. People just have to accept the truth with Vilma. This deal needs to happen asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yes, that truth. What did you think I meant? Just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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